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Lady Annastreia
Creative Destructions
Posted - 2009.08.05 09:56:00 - [121]
 

Just allow them to be changed remotely

Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2009.08.05 10:58:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 04/08/2009 11:51:38
Could someone tell me;

- Why would you need to give other players damaged crystals?
- Why can't you do it in trade?
- Why can't you take te crystals out of the ships before contracting ships?

Also;

Want to sell slightly used exotic dancers Laughing


Because the crystals are in a ship you no longer have access to (i.e. lost outpost). All assets are at least partially recoverable through a contract sale unless there is something damaged. In the case of a few used crystals or a little heat damage this seems a bit ridiculous. An amarr player could have 100s of millions of isk tied up for the sake of a few % damage on a few 100ks isk crsytals. Of course you shouldn't lose the outpost in the first place but it does seem a bit harsh on people flying amarr over anyone else.

Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
Posted - 2009.08.05 11:04:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Doddy
Because the crystals are in a ship you no longer have access to (i.e. lost outpost). All assets are at least partially recoverable through a contract sale unless there is something damaged. In the case of a few used crystals or a little heat damage this seems a bit ridiculous. An amarr player could have 100s of millions of isk tied up for the sake of a few % damage on a few 100ks isk crsytals. Of course you shouldn't lose the outpost in the first place but it does seem a bit harsh on people flying amarr over anyone else.


Then i think the only option is a risk to the owner.

Ergo; "give contracts" which can have anything in them, but can't have item/isk demands on them.

Trust contracts so to say.

Dmitryilyin
Gallente
Free Space Tech
Red Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.05 11:32:00 - [124]
 

CCP Please make it possible to contract ANY damaged item.

It will not cause scams because ships can be repaired for free, modules repairing is cheap and laser crystals, even faction, are cheap so nobody will complain if got 0.99 damaged from contract, and why should you buy then from contract anyway.

Also why cannot we trade faction items with market and have to use contracts? They are can be repackaged and stacked, what the problem?

Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
Posted - 2009.08.05 11:35:00 - [125]
 

Normal contracting of damaged items will not happen. Same thing that was with mines etc.

People abusing the system ruin "fun stuff", that's MMOs for you.

Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.05 11:40:00 - [126]
 

Edited by: Taua Roqa on 05/08/2009 11:40:04
something on page 2 is making google chrome throw up a warning page about dropbox and malware :/

Arous Drephius
Posted - 2009.08.05 12:15:00 - [127]
 

Just allow any damaged items to be contracted, and have a warning that pops up listing the damaged items and how damaged they are (sort of like the "you are entering a ship fitted with the following into this contract" popup when making a the contract). If you don't read it then it's your own fault.

Jin Entres
Malevolent Intervention
Posted - 2009.08.05 14:45:00 - [128]
 

+1 just add right click ship from assets -> unload ammo into cargo/hangar

It's a major pain in the ass and serves no useful purpose I can think of.

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.05 14:58:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: Taua Roqa
Edited by: Taua Roqa on 05/08/2009 11:40:04
something on page 2 is making google chrome throw up a warning page about dropbox and malware :/

Using Chrome myself and not getting any problems. Maybe it's the blue bars?

Dav Varan
Posted - 2009.08.05 16:05:00 - [130]
 


Lord Zoran
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.08.05 16:32:00 - [131]
 

not much point talking about it. As stated it's broken as ccp intended..........

An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.08.05 16:59:00 - [132]
 

Bring back Remote Doomsdays.

Kewso
Posted - 2009.08.05 17:05:00 - [133]
 

Wish damaged drones would hop to cargo also.

I have a rigged raven like 42 jumps away I cant contract cause of a damaged drone in the dronebay, so if i repackage it I lose the rigs. And I doubt I'll ever jump back into that space so that's annoying also.

let damaged goods just drop to cargo or whatnot


Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2009.08.06 08:36:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Lord Zoran
not much point talking about it. As stated it's broken as ccp intended..........


yeah as stated before its to bad not many ccp people actualy use the amarr race.

Jesho
Minmatar
Swedish Aerospace Inc
The Kadeshi
Posted - 2009.08.06 10:52:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
Allowing damaged items to be contracted would benefit scammers. We do not intend to allow damaged items to be contracted.
Ok so that's the reason.
i've always wondered why you had decided not to allow it.

why not just put up a big fat warning at the top of the contract that it contains damaged items? and possibly a popup dialog box warning?
if the recipient of a contract is fully aware of it containing damage items and is fine with that, why not allow it?

there's more options here, for example only allow damage items to be contracted in private contracts (with warning as above)


another thing on my wish list for the contract system is to be able to change the minimum bid increment on auctions, sometimes the default 10% or whatever it was is way too high if the start and buyout is too close, resulting in no real auction.


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