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Posted - 2009.07.27 15:26:00 - [1]
 

The Caldari have 'liberated' one of the Gallente Federation's backwater colonies. Will Tibus Heth's infamous meritocracy make a difference, or will corruption continue its stranglehold? Find out in our newest Chronicle, The Ever-Turning Wheels.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2009.07.27 16:37:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Abrazzar on 27/07/2009 16:40:07
I like how this chronicle implies that Caldari and Gallente aren't all that much different in their basic mentality. Cool

Oh, the chronicle page is missing a link to this thread here.

Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
Posted - 2009.07.27 16:56:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: The Ever-Turning Wheels
And in this new world they allow us to create, I still cannot help but wonder if the legacy of Tibus Heth, that high warlord of the Caldari Sate
I found a typo, what do I win?

In related comments, the story was okay. Not bad, but nothing spectacular. It would be nice to know what system this was in though - if it's an FW system it is definitely an interesting development (as there have so far been no mentions of the landing of forces on worlds in occupied systems).

Banedon Runestar
Gallente
Gravity Mining and Manufacturing Inc
The Company LLC
Posted - 2009.07.27 17:21:00 - [4]
 

Ending implies that the protagonist is now about to turn out his buddy since he's not 'hitting the numbers'... Someone you know get canned?

Interesting way of showing the mental state of an occupied border colony. Perhaps throw a few more from the Minmatar/Amarr warzone in.

To bad the Gallente forces are so bent on blowing up ships instead of taking territory. Oh well, assuming this system is expanded and we lose a core system or two I suppose that *might* get the point accross. Or not, who knows.

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2009.07.27 17:25:00 - [5]
 

I liked this one a lot. I enjoy any chronicle that involves lowly grimy planetsiders discussing the godlike capsuleers.

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2009.07.27 17:55:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 27/07/2009 18:25:40

Meh, one-sided filthy caldari propaganda. Cool

Seriously, when are the Gallente going to get anything good? All the Gallente get are chronicles of the new tyrant-president messing everything up and turning what was once a democracy into a police state, just like we would expect the Caldari state to be. Or of some idiot wanna-be terrorist that brags about his plans and ****s up an attack (big plothole to make the Gallente look bad and have the Caldari win, as usual).

Down with that moron Foiritan, up with democracy. Gallente should be the beacon of light, freedom and most importantly, CIVILIZATION in this cold barbaric universe.

Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2009.07.27 18:09:00 - [7]
 

-shakes fist at Caldari imperialists-

You will pay!

Hehe, nice chron!

Mavrk
Minmatar
TOP GUHN
Posted - 2009.07.27 18:09:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Mavrk on 27/07/2009 18:09:55
post number 8 says:

"Meh, I don't follow faction warfare, but the Gallente are apparently doing it wrong, since the resources of both sides are so immense, taking the one thing that is scarce: Land (in this instance, systems) is the only way to win an actual war. duh"

but then again, I also enjoy watching those explosion animations. Too bad most of the time it's me and not them... ugh


Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2009.07.27 18:39:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 27/07/2009 18:25:40

Meh, one-sided filthy caldari propaganda. Cool

Seriously, when are the Gallente going to get anything good? All the Gallente get are chronicles of the new tyrant-president messing everything up and turning what was once a democracy into a police state, just like we would expect the Caldari state to be. Or of some idiot wanna-be terrorist that brags about his plans and ****s up an attack (big plothole to make the Gallente look bad and have the Caldari win, as usual).

Down with that moron Foiritan, up with democracy. Gallente should be the beacon of light, freedom and most importantly, CIVILIZATION in this cold barbaric universe.


And what...uh...that Intaki said

Jesmine Kyriel
Amarr
House Kyriel Inc.
Posted - 2009.07.27 19:23:00 - [10]
 

What bothers me about this cronicle is two-fold;

First, we have the notion that once a system is lost in FW, changes on planets and (perhaps) stations are enacted. This contradicts all other PF input that fails to explain in any way what different factions do once they take/lose systems. All Federation space is lost; are all those planets and colonies now in the Caldari's hands, are they on the planets? Most RP'ers seem to agree that the war is only in space and nothing is done planetside. I'd believe we would hear what has happened in Intaki (one of the Federations main bloodlines even!) to the planets there, if the Caldari State landed troops on one of the main ethnic group's homeworlds...

I would like to know, what to expect if I join FW for any faction and fail in defending any system - what can I, from an IC viewpoint, claim to have failed to prevent? If the Amarr take Minmatar worlds, are the population dragged off in chains? Do the Minmatar liberate slaves and/or kill their 'oppressors'? What do the Caldari/Gallente do with the different planets they take/lose?

Secondly, it seems to me a trend is made here, that involves a couple of things.

Glorifying the State and Republic as the 'good guys' that allways do things right and properly, and the Empire and Federation as the 'evil ones' that simply don't know how to behave, or so it seems. I mean, the example here was that caldari forces landed and took control, they even 'handled' the few that resisted, if they were carrying weapons or not. I don't know why you would go to such a lenght to be gentle with people trying to kill you, that the worst that happends to loud rebels is being thrown into a lake to cool off. That just smells of 'the Caldari are so nice' meant to paint them in their 'good guys' picture. Later the protagonist even claims that if 'they' (the Gallente Federation) had taken land they would come in guns blazing. Yeah, of course they would, I mean, the Federation is the OBVIOUS bad guys here, right? Far more likely is that either woyld, in taking planets, land to assume control, neutralize (kill) any major opposition, depose of the local government and instate their own.

I started playing this game after quite some time reading PF material etc, and I liked the supposed 'grey' universe where everyone has their good and bad sides, no-one is perfect, and the universe can be cold and cruel. This pampering of spesific nations over others to announce good-guys and bad-guys is just weak.

BTW, as noted before there is a typo in the cronicle, a rather obvious one too. Also, there is no link to this forum from the cronicle either. Not that i care to much, I did not like tihs one much.

Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2009.07.27 20:09:00 - [11]
 

I liked this more than the last Chronicle -- at least I could tell what was going on this time. I agree with previously raised questions about what the heck this actually means for worlds like Intaki though. One of FW's biggest failings so far has been the decided lack of any real consequences in both the NPC world and the player world -- this answers some questions about the former but the latter still seems empty.

Surprisingly, perhaps, I find myself in agreement with many of the people criticizing the portrayal of the various empires lately, especially the Federation. While I play Caldari, and find them to be extraordinarily compelling, I've been disappointed to see both the Caldari and the Gallente losing some of their original flavor -- Caldari corporatism and cutthroat capitalism has been replaced with a "benign" dictatorship and meanwhile the Federation is turning into a police state run by Jack Bauer. Neither of these, I think, is more interesting than what they are replacing -- the multiple facets of these societies, their widely disparate values, and the conflict between the two that they caused were what made that conflict interesting to me, despite the fact that it was not as easy a conflict to understand as that of the Minmatar and Amarr. In contrast, the developments in the Republic and Empire have seemed to only enhance their identities and further develop their internal workings, and that's something I am happy to see.

I'm encouraged to see a chronicle that seems to be responding, somewhat at least, to player questions -- I just hope that there's more things in this line and that there's a significant amount of thought and world-building work put into the process of creating them, so we don't end up with the inconsistencies and uncertainties that have existed before.

Ouro Akala
Posted - 2009.07.27 21:05:00 - [12]
 

My name is Ouro Akala and I approve of this chronicle. A+

Sharp Feather
Gallente
POS Builder Inc.
Silent Requiem
Posted - 2009.07.27 23:08:00 - [13]
 

we fly black ships, so we are obviously evil. I love the picture tough, I hoped these were the gallente troops but nope... I agree with the posters above. I enjoyed reading it tough, the meaning of the story is true. Confused

Zidious
Caldari
Posted - 2009.07.28 01:01:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel
What bothers me about this cronicle is two-fold;

First, we have the notion that once a system is lost in FW, changes on planets and (perhaps) stations are enacted. This contradicts all other PF input that fails to explain in any way what different factions do once they take/lose systems. All Federation space is lost; are all those planets and colonies now in the Caldari's hands, are they on the planets? Most RP'ers seem to agree that the war is only in space and nothing is done planetside. I'd believe we would hear what has happened in Intaki (one of the Federations main bloodlines even!) to the planets there, if the Caldari State landed troops on one of the main ethnic group's homeworlds...

I would like to know, what to expect if I join FW for any faction and fail in defending any system - what can I, from an IC viewpoint, claim to have failed to prevent? If the Amarr take Minmatar worlds, are the population dragged off in chains? Do the Minmatar liberate slaves and/or kill their 'oppressors'? What do the Caldari/Gallente do with the different planets they take/lose?

Secondly, it seems to me a trend is made here, that involves a couple of things.

Glorifying the State and Republic as the 'good guys' that allways do things right and properly, and the Empire and Federation as the 'evil ones' that simply don't know how to behave, or so it seems. I mean, the example here was that caldari forces landed and took control, they even 'handled' the few that resisted, if they were carrying weapons or not. I don't know why you would go to such a lenght to be gentle with people trying to kill you, that the worst that happends to loud rebels is being thrown into a lake to cool off. That just smells of 'the Caldari are so nice' meant to paint them in their 'good guys' picture. Later the protagonist even claims that if 'they' (the Gallente Federation) had taken land they would come in guns blazing. Yeah, of course they would, I mean, the Federation is the OBVIOUS bad guys here, right? Far more likely is that either woyld, in taking planets, land to assume control, neutralize (kill) any major opposition, depose of the local government and instate their own.

I started playing this game after quite some time reading PF material etc, and I liked the supposed 'grey' universe where everyone has their good and bad sides, no-one is perfect, and the universe can be cold and cruel. This pampering of spesific nations over others to announce good-guys and bad-guys is just weak.

BTW, as noted before there is a typo in the cronicle, a rather obvious one too. Also, there is no link to this forum from the cronicle either. Not that i care to much, I did not like tihs one much.



Correct me if im wrong, but arent the caldari ment to be cold and efficient while the galente are more liberal and relaxed ?
I think the point of the story was to show us how the caldari manipulate the gallente into doubting themselves by giving them bribes in terms of hope they did not have when the gallente ruled the planet and not a story about who's the good guys or bad guys.

It probably would have caused more problems just to kill a bunch of people and then kill the rest later on than the caldari could bother with, hence their approach of defusing the situation the way they did.

This was just one poorly run colony and not an example of gallente world wide, just an excllent example of the caldari beeing cold and methodical and beeing able to manipulate a situation to their benifit.



Hurs Sokira
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
Posted - 2009.07.28 01:13:00 - [15]
 

The chronicle is written decently enough, but has a glaring contradiction that CCP writers are either unwilling or unable to explain since the unbelievable rise of Tibus "Der Fuhrer" Heth.

Quote:
The meritocracy is a real, wonderful thing. [...] Performance matters. If you are good at what you do, you are rewarded; and if you are not, you are pushed aside to make way for someone who can do your job. It's a utilitarianism [...] bubbling instead out of that black stew that is the Caldari corporate world, is testament to their ability to adapt...


So, apparently meritocracy works perfectly fine when Caldari apply it when occupying Gallente, but it fails on massive scale in the State itself, leading to corruption, favoritism and general inefficiencis in megacorps, which apparently resulted in national-socialist revolution by Heth...Neutral

Where was this "meritocracy" when same "monopolies, favoritism, backroom dealing and nepotism" were happening in Caldari State and all megacorps were ruled by apparent degenerates as described in "Empyrean Age" by TonyG?

P.S. Excellent illustration by the way. Just brilliant. Poses of Caldari shock troops convey more feelings and emotions that the most of the chronicle.

Battle Nova
Posted - 2009.07.28 03:10:00 - [16]
 

Those soldiers in the picture of this chronicle are Gallenteans or Caldarians?Question

Anubis Assassin
Caldari
SandStorm.
The Babylon Consortium
Posted - 2009.07.28 03:13:00 - [17]
 

I liked this one...

Anyway, would it be possible to get a larger version of the artwork for this one? Say... 1680x1050? XD

Aranolt Sagura
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
Posted - 2009.07.28 04:01:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Hurs Sokira
The chronicle is written decently enough, but has a glaring contradiction that CCP writers are either unwilling or unable to explain since the unbelievable rise of Tibus "Der Fuhrer" Heth.

Quote:
The meritocracy is a real, wonderful thing. [...] Performance matters. If you are good at what you do, you are rewarded; and if you are not, you are pushed aside to make way for someone who can do your job. It's a utilitarianism [...] bubbling instead out of that black stew that is the Caldari corporate world, is testament to their ability to adapt...


So, apparently meritocracy works perfectly fine when Caldari apply it when occupying Gallente, but it fails on massive scale in the State itself, leading to corruption, favoritism and general inefficiencis in megacorps, which apparently resulted in national-socialist revolution by Heth...Neutral

Where was this "meritocracy" when same "monopolies, favoritism, backroom dealing and nepotism" were happening in Caldari State and all megacorps were ruled by apparent degenerates as described in "Empyrean Age" by TonyG?

P.S. Excellent illustration by the way. Just brilliant. Poses of Caldari shock troops convey more feelings and emotions that the most of the chronicle.



Well maybe thats what the person telling the story has been led to beleive now. That the Caldari are better then the reality of it. He was brainwashed in a way. Or maybe just wants to beleive that because he was unhappy with the Gallente rule before.

Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2009.07.28 04:18:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Rakshasa Taisab on 28/07/2009 04:19:05
Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel
First, we have the notion that once a system is lost in FW, changes on planets and (perhaps) stations are enacted. This contradicts all other PF input that fails to explain in any way what different factions do once they take/lose systems. All Federation space is lost; are all those planets and colonies now in the Caldari's hands, are they on the planets? Most RP'ers seem to agree that the war is only in space and nothing is done planetside. I'd believe we would hear what has happened in Intaki (one of the Federations main bloodlines even!) to the planets there, if the Caldari State landed troops on one of the main ethnic group's homeworlds...

Those kind of details are beneath the demi-god pod pilots to get involved in. You capture the system and let your faction do it's thing while you watch holoreels.

Quote:
Glorifying the State and Republic as the 'good guys' that allways do things right and properly, and the Empire and Federation as the 'evil ones' that simply don't know how to behave, or so it seems. I mean, the example here was that caldari forces landed and took control, they even 'handled' the few that resisted, if they were carrying weapons or not. I don't know why you would go to such a lenght to be gentle with people trying to kill you, that the worst that happends to loud rebels is being thrown into a lake to cool off. That just smells of 'the Caldari are so nice' meant to paint them in their 'good guys' picture. Later the protagonist even claims that if 'they' (the Gallente Federation) had taken land they would come in guns blazing. Yeah, of course they would, I mean, the Federation is the OBVIOUS bad guys here, right? Far more likely is that either woyld, in taking planets, land to assume control, neutralize (kill) any major opposition, depose of the local government and instate their own.

You seem to be confusing 'good' with 'efficient'. Do not doubt that the Caldari have spent hundreds of thousands of man-years researching and experimenting with the best ways of capturing and turning populations to the Caldari side. If the best way had been to nuke them from orbit, they'd do that.

The chronicle was actually quite subtle on some parts; like how they installed a rather 'incompetent' caretaker for a while. (How could that guy have been incompetent while he had 'overseen every process following the invasion itself, and who was clearly not fit for rule.'?) No, this was clearly a way for the Caldari to force the population to grow their own (pro-caldari) leaders.

Rachel Silverside
Caldari
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2009.07.28 05:51:00 - [20]
 

has anyone thought that maybe instead of any hidden messages or caldari brain washing that maybe it just happened like it was said to in the chronicle and maybe that the gallante prefer the caldari to their old rulers becuase the caldari are better at running things. anyone at all or just me?

Lieutenant Quin
Posted - 2009.07.28 07:50:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 27/07/2009 18:25:40

Meh, one-sided filthy caldari propaganda. Cool

Seriously, when are the Gallente going to get anything good? All the Gallente get are chronicles of the new tyrant-president messing everything up and turning what was once a democracy into a police state, just like we would expect the Caldari state to be. Or of some idiot wanna-be terrorist that brags about his plans and ****s up an attack (big plothole to make the Gallente look bad and have the Caldari win, as usual).

Down with that moron Foiritan, up with democracy. Gallente should be the beacon of light, freedom and most importantly, CIVILIZATION in this cold barbaric universe.



Does it really matter what the Chronicles say? The Federation's done plenty of harm to the State, and the Empire. And like you said, Gallente is supposed to be the beacon of light, freedom, and civilazation. it's kind of hard to do that when your blowing other people up, those military screw-ups sound like they're trying to say "mercy matters". Be happy with that, and just call it a day. And don't try to find this supprising please; I may be Caldari, but I know a successful nation with somewhat ineffective leaders *cough* USA *cough* when I see one Wink

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2009.07.28 07:57:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 28/07/2009 08:06:37
So the Gallente proved what the USA proves: democracy is just as bad as the other systems.

And people calling themselves patriots here are clamoring for a "meritocracy" too.

As for the story, meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Just like our current president.

Sad to see that after so many years, people just can't drop this desire to rule over each other.

Maybe all pilots should get together and destroy all of the navies and topple all four empires. Eliminate all taxes so they can't buy new ships. Then there will be real peace.


It should also be noted that in Earth history, when Islam spread westward, they pretty much did what the Caldari did, or the response of the conquered people was much the same as in the story. the reason for this was that Muslims, in their writings, felt that "infidels" had to pay a tax.

And that, for the most part, was what they did, and that tax, and their treatment for not being Muslim, was a little better than the treatment and taxes they lived under the previous rule. It's often said it spread by the sword, as there were battles, but that occupation of the western lands was tolerated as the mullahs and sheiks only replaced the Kings and barons, and these newcomers did not know the people well enough to screw them over as much. They just taxed them, looked down their noses at them, but otherwise left them alone.

Really says a lot for what truly matters in the human race, doesn't it?

Orion GUardian
Caldari
Posted - 2009.07.28 09:26:00 - [23]
 

Despite what others said, I can second the view on the Empires here....because the viewpoint is from some backwater ****hole.


The Gallenteans are just what they seem to be: lighthearted fixated onm their own good in a democracy which is, like some today, in its heart corrupt. They are the good guys as long as you live in a part of Gallente space thats nie and safe and...INTERESTING....

But I always figured they would care less about the outer planets because they are uninteresting and....careing about them does nothing to further personal goals. Because that is what I think is the difference between Gallente+Caldari: Indiviualism in Gallente, everyone wants to be successful on their own....and Corporatism, fixation on the success of the group. [of course in the boundaries of human mind]

I sometimes imagined the Caldari being like the Spartans...a hard meritocracy bounded on alot of militarism and efficiancy. And taking some colony, always lead by a corrupt government...is easier if you show them that you are NOT the bararians the government told them. And say what....it is more efficient to let the colony rule itself and take what it can give you....then control it by a corrupt, individualistic government.


Of course...Caldari aren't better then Gallente, the big corporations are extorting their workforce like nothing good while the Gallentenas exort just the other guy if possible. But they are more efficient.

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2009.07.28 09:37:00 - [24]
 

Good chronicle.

While not so intriguing as some of the others this chronicle is quite special indeed. It is one of the first clear signs that player actions once again affect the overall storyline, since the days of tournament for the new Amarrian emperor and Serpentis stealing a titan.

You are doing it subtle but you are doing it great.

Jarlath Whitbray
Maxx Industries
Posted - 2009.07.28 09:38:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Battle Nova
Those soldiers in the picture of this chronicle are Gallenteans or Caldarians?Question


I guess they could be both, since CCP didn't know which factional warfare team would be leading at the point when they commissioned the art. Chronicle clearly speaks of in-game events, mainly, the factional warfare between Gallente and Caldari in which Caldari is clearly dominating.

Delta Bacat
Posted - 2009.07.28 09:56:00 - [26]
 

Great read!

Two topics I really loved, the first being where the players get involved in the story/world development and the second is showing the protagonists' rise to power and perhaps his corruption.

Also, for those not Caldari capsuleers, please note that the protagonist has a long way to go in Caldari statemenship. He erroneously assumes that a Caldari can actually mismanage things. Just the thought of a Caldari official screwing up is ridiculous. His mismanagement was obviously a ploy to stimulate those of with the will and intellect to step up to the challenge of meritocracy.

Yay Caldari!

CCP Greyscale

Posted - 2009.07.28 12:19:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Hurs Sokira
The chronicle is written decently enough, but has a glaring contradiction that CCP writers are either unwilling or unable to explain since the unbelievable rise of Tibus "Der Fuhrer" Heth.

Quote:
The meritocracy is a real, wonderful thing. [...] Performance matters. If you are good at what you do, you are rewarded; and if you are not, you are pushed aside to make way for someone who can do your job. It's a utilitarianism [...] bubbling instead out of that black stew that is the Caldari corporate world, is testament to their ability to adapt...


So, apparently meritocracy works perfectly fine when Caldari apply it when occupying Gallente, but it fails on massive scale in the State itself, leading to corruption, favoritism and general inefficiencis in megacorps, which apparently resulted in national-socialist revolution by Heth...Neutral

Where was this "meritocracy" when same "monopolies, favoritism, backroom dealing and nepotism" were happening in Caldari State and all megacorps were ruled by apparent degenerates as described in "Empyrean Age" by TonyG?

P.S. Excellent illustration by the way. Just brilliant. Poses of Caldari shock troops convey more feelings and emotions that the most of the chronicle.


The failure to adhere to traditional meritocratic ideals by corporate leadership was, as you note, a significant facet in Heth's populist success. In the period immediately prior to Heth's ascent to power, there was no functioning, pervasive Caldari meritocracy.

Since then, Heth's made some effort to alter this situation, as portrayed in the following news articles, among others:

Independent report will show progress from Heth reforms
Audit of Heth reforms released
Federation split over results of independent audit
Independent audit receives mixed reception outside the State
Caldari citizens speak out about reforms
CEP establishes reform guidance board in absence of Bravour

There's also mention of it in the YC110 overview on the Evelopedia here, and an earlier chronicle (Tomorrow a Dream) was devoted to the subject.

Given this sustained effort to reform the State over the last ten months, and the Caldari's traditional cultural affinity for this style of administration, it would I think be surprising if meritocratic tendencies were not a facet of life on occupied planets?

Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente
The Crane Family
Posted - 2009.07.28 13:17:00 - [28]
 

I quite like this chronicle.

I see in it reflect some of the ideas I have behind both the State and the Federation.

Things like the Gallente emphasising his need to speak out, even if it is ignored, is one of those typically Gallente trademarks I referred to a couple of chronicles back. The idea that the Federation is basically corrupt, and realises this at too well, is another example. Also note the indirect way in which he chooses to address the problem.

The State in this chronicle also has some characteristics that I can recognise. Deliberate, economical, and basically cold. The takeover and early establishment of power is executed without compassion, but with an efficiency born in discipline. Exactly the way I think the State would act/react.

The interesting bit in it is how the Caldari use the concept of meritocracy and twist it so that a basically democratic people can empathise with it and make it their own. Eventually leading the protagonist to seemingly discard his lifelong friend on the altar of that hollies of holy in the State: competition.

But what I like most is how all this is done through the use of human factors, without the need for heavy handed plot devices like an all-powerful government agent or the like.

I still have problems with how the EVE universe now came about, but this is at least a believable chronicle within that university. Also, it ties in things that happen in the game done by players with things in the chronicles.

There may still be differences of opinion on how I think the Caldari and Gallente should be depicted in general, but this is at least a lot closer to how I would do it. A step in the right direction?

Ohh, and there is a reason why the Gallente find plexing rather boring. You can't capture a Caldari plex with a frigate circling a plex real fast: even though those missiles don't do a lot of damage if you fly fast enough, they do always hit. Now try the same against turret-based ships. Also, explosions. And there being no benefit of having occupied that space (except for bragging rights).

A Ingus
Posted - 2009.07.28 13:37:00 - [29]
 

I have not been involved in factional warfare. I also have a Caldari alt, mainly because the old stat system favored it for the kind of pilot I wanted to create. But, this chronicle does seem rather stupid. Portraying the Caldari as so benevolent as to not kill anyone when they landed and took overLaughing

On a related note, why are so many, the majority, of devs Caldari toons? (mirroring the lopsided general population in eve) For devs, it can't be because the old stat system so favored Achura (no points wasted on charisma) because you don't need attributes. Is it the manly body armor on the civire toons? Is it that few want to have a portrait of an old bald or hooded Amarr or an overly thin faced freak of a Minmatar? It can't be that the all powerful ECM beats all other EW? (Devs can do any ew at any time) Why don't you all just get the Jove portraits and be done with it. Regardless, think about the Caldari dominance. It has the potential to make the game sorta boring if Caldari becomes more and more dominant.

Lt Forge
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
Posted - 2009.07.28 13:43:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Lt Forge on 28/07/2009 13:42:56
Aside from this Chronie, has any of you noticed that CCP is getting more and more pro-Caldari? I keep seeing an increase of 'bad news Gallente intel' and 'good-news Caldari intel'.

Caldari has already enough players, corps, space national socialist leaders and good news.

Seriously Neutral


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