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lythos miralbar
The Fifth Ace
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2009.07.21 12:53:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: lythos miralbar on 21/07/2009 12:53:53
What do you think ...

Should we have the ability to shut down gates by shooting them down to armor? When thier shields are gone, they offline and don't come back online untill shields are back to 10% (should take about 5 minutes).

They could be made as tough as pos's, with a propper security hit to anyone that shoots them, even in 0.0?

What if two gates were linked, so on one side a fleet could be shooting a gate trying to close it, and on the other side you could have a fleet trying to shield rep it to open it :-)

Seems daft that they can't be dammaged, even by a 500 man fleet shooting them.

At the very least, I want a flyable, invincible gate with guns please.. yarrrr]!

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2009.07.21 12:55:00 - [2]
 

No

Amataras
Minmatar
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.07.21 12:57:00 - [3]
 


Lance Fighter
Amarr
Posted - 2009.07.21 12:58:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
No

JavelinGR
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:01:00 - [5]
 

I don t see how they could implement it without ppl exploiting it.
Ppl would set up macros constantly shooting gates, thus cutting off entire routes.

Chris Liath
Gallente
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:01:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Lance Fighter
Originally by: Furb Killer
No


Abrazzar
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:02:00 - [7]
 

Only when all involved parties will get permanent denial of service from all public stargates as a response from the service providers for this vandalism. You'd then have to pay a fine of several million to billion isk, depending on the damage you have done, to get access back again.LaughingRazz

Hoo Is
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:07:00 - [8]
 

freelancer much?

Wythos
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:09:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Wythos on 21/07/2009 13:09:36
Posted with my alt by mistake..

Yup sorry, wrong forum.. if any admin type person is around please move this post if you can.

With regard to people using macro's to shut down gates.. thats why you'd have to have a big fleet to do it, plus a fast regen on the shields. Is anyone really going to park 20 BS's at a gate and keep shooting it to keep it offline?

Having to pay a fine of sveral million isk for 'vandalism' if you shut down a gate to then restore your ability to use gates would be cool Very Happy

HeliosGal
Caldari
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:10:00 - [10]
 

silly idea, wormholes are a bypass anyway. Just camp youre space easy as that

Nicholas Barker
Deez Nuts.
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:11:00 - [11]
 

HERPADERP, jst now me'n ma mates wer campin dis gate wen vagabond jumpt in un got bk 2 da gat b4 me un me matez cud kill um.
Wi shud b abel 2 stop gats wurkan so ppl cannit jmp away 2 safty cuz ma matz wer 2 stpid 3 nut shuut im n cach m n da odda side.

Amerilia
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:29:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Nicholas Barker
HERPADERP, jst now me'n ma mates wer campin dis gate wen vagabond jumpt in un got bk 2 da gat b4 me un me matez cud kill um.
Wi shud b abel 2 stop gats wurkan so ppl cannit jmp away 2 safty cuz ma matz wer 2 stpid 3 nut shuut im n cach m n da odda side.


WHATShocked

Eadeana
Dark Cross Industries
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:35:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Nicholas Barker
HERPADERP, jst now me'n ma mates wer campin dis gate wen vagabond jumpt in un got bk 2 da gat b4 me un me matez cud kill um.
Wi shud b abel 2 stop gats wurkan so ppl cannit jmp away 2 safty cuz ma matz wer 2 stpid 3 nut shuut im n cach m n da odda side.


Cooooool runnings mon!

Bibbleibble
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:43:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Nicholas Barker
HERPADERP, jst now me'n ma mates wer campin dis gate wen vagabond jumpt in un got bk 2 da gat b4 me un me matez cud kill um.
Wi shud b abel 2 stop gats wurkan so ppl cannit jmp away 2 safty cuz ma matz wer 2 stpid 3 nut shuut im n cach m n da odda side.


You need to send a written apology to the english language for that Evil or Very Mad

Fake Edit: On second thoughts, scrap the written part. ugh

Wythos
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:44:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Wythos on 21/07/2009 13:48:27


Ohh ffs.. used my alt again..

Quote:
HERPADERP, jst now me'n ma mates wer campin dis gate wen vagabond jumpt in un got bk 2 da gat b4 me un me matez cud kill um.
Wi shud b abel 2 stop gats wurkan so ppl cannit jmp away 2 safty cuz ma matz wer 2 stpid 3 nut shuut im n cach m n da odda side.


WTF?!?!

Ok... let me see.. perhaps if I try and read it really slowly.. uuuh huh.. mmmm.. yup.. ok..

Ahhh righty ho.. got it.. you have to read it at 1/4 speed so your in tune with the posters normal speed of thought.. then it makes sense.Laughing

If you'd have read the OP you'd see that wasn't what was being sugested at all. If you shut down a gate the idea would be that nothing is coming in or out at all, and it would take as long to shut down a gate as it would be to take down a POS.

Would be a great way to help force a fight with hostile forces when you turn up with equal numbers and they just run away.

Never mind, seems like I'm the only one that likes the idea. Ho hum, can't win em all.

Armoured C
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:46:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Hoo Is
freelancer much?


indeed

Nicholas Barker
Deez Nuts.
Posted - 2009.07.21 13:55:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Wythos
Edited by: Wythos on 21/07/2009 13:45:04
Ohh ffs.. used my alt again..

Quote:
HERPADERP, jst now me'n ma mates wer campin dis gate wen vagabond jumpt in un got bk 2 da gat b4 me un me matez cud kill um.
Wi shud b abel 2 stop gats wurkan so ppl cannit jmp away 2 safty cuz ma matz wer 2 stpid 3 nut shuut im n cach m n da odda side.


WTF?!?!

Ok... let me see.. perhaps if I try and read it really slowly.. uuuh huh.. mmmm.. yup.. ok..

Ahhh righty ho.. got it.. you have to read it at 1/4 speed so your in tune with the posters normal speed of thought.. then it makes sense.Laughing

If you'd have read the OP you'd see that wasn't what was being sugested at all. If you shut down a gate the idea would be that nothing is coming in or out at all, and it would take as long to shut down a gate as it would be to take down a POS.

Would be a great way to help force a fight with hostile forces when you turn up with equal numbers and they just run away.




ok, sorry i'm a bit hungover so ended up using the wrong situation mixed with the OPs lazy (******ed) camper attitude.

Enemy warps to gate get bubbled, everybody agro'd because they want to get on the killmail, normaly you'd just jump through the gate and possibly escape that way if the other side is clear or also camped by a ****** who's cruising ****hub while he camps waiting for the next ibis to jump through.

OP just wants...
...oh wait...
we wuz campin dis gat wen da bager blitzt in n wen wa shot atid id jumpt threw n fuct off, n wi cuddn jmp afta it. Wi shud ba abul ta shoot dem gats t stop dem workin.#
Waaagh!

Raukorya
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.07.21 14:01:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Raukorya on 21/07/2009 14:02:54
Originally by: Nicholas Barker
HERPADERP, jst now me'n ma mates wer campin dis gate wen vagabond jumpt in un got bk 2 da gat b4 me un me matez cud kill um.
Wi shud b abel 2 stop gats wurkan so ppl cannit jmp away 2 safty cuz ma matz wer 2 stpid 3 nut shuut im n cach m n da odda side.


TRANSLATION-

HERPADERP, just now me and my mates were camping this gate when a vagabond jumped in and got back to the gate before me and my mates could kill him.
We should be able to stop gates working so people can't jump away to safety cause my mates were too stupid (3?) to not shoot him and catch him on the other side.

AKA OP is stupid


EDIT- he just responded to his own post to clarify and its not much more legible hahaha

Nicholas Barker
Deez Nuts.
Posted - 2009.07.21 14:04:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Raukorya
Edited by: Raukorya on 21/07/2009 14:02:54
Originally by: Nicholas Barker
HERPADERP, jst now me'n ma mates wer campin dis gate wen vagabond jumpt in un got bk 2 da gat b4 me un me matez cud kill um.
Wi shud b abel 2 stop gats wurkan so ppl cannit jmp away 2 safty cuz ma matz wer 2 stpid 3 nut shuut im n cach m n da odda side.


TRANSLATION-

HERPADERP, just now me and my mates were camping this gate when a vagabond jumped in and got back to the gate before me and my mates could kill him.
We should be able to stop gates working so people can't jump away to safety cause my mates were too stupid (3?) to not shoot him and catch him on the other side.

AKA OP is stupid


EDIT- he just responded to his own post to clarify and its not much more legible hahaha


:)

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2009.07.21 14:15:00 - [20]
 

Do you really want to attack something that can move matter across light-years in a matter of seconds? How hard do you think it would be for a gate to only transfer part of your ship? For all we know, gates only work at short range in order to keep your ship intact during transfer. If the gate didn't care about accuracy, maybe the transfer range could be dramatically increased, thus making the entire grid a potential kill zone?

Then there's the whole issue about how many people would be perturbed that you were destroying the life-sustaining links between the stars. Do you really want the entire civilized population of Eve to blacklist you? No NPC gates would be open to you, no NPC stations would let you dock, no NPC bank would store your ISK, whatever NPC runs the contract system would block you, anyone helping you would also become blacklisted, CONCORD and the factions would send hunter squads into 0.0 after you, etc..

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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2009.07.21 14:53:00 - [21]
 

Moved to Features & Ideas.

Khoda Khan
Minmatar
Tolerancia Nihilum
Posted - 2009.07.21 15:03:00 - [22]
 

I never cease to be astonished by the ideas that present themselves in this forum.

I never cease to add in my "no" to them when I actually bother to read them.

I might CONSIDER supporting this idea when CCP produces a game with a working buddy list (like most MMOs since the days of MajorMUD have had). In other words... never.

ShadowGod56
Posted - 2009.07.21 16:43:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Nicholas Barker
HERPADERP, jst now me'n ma mates wer campin dis gate wen vagabond jumpt in un got bk 2 da gat b4 me un me matez cud kill um.
Wi shud b abel 2 stop gats wurkan so ppl cannit jmp away 2 safty cuz ma matz wer 2 stpid 3 nut shuut im n cach m n da odda side.


you sir are a god of the English language

Nicholas Barker
Deez Nuts.
Posted - 2009.07.21 21:42:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: ShadowGod56
Originally by: Nicholas Barker
HERPADERP, jst now me'n ma mates wer campin dis gate wen vagabond jumpt in un got bk 2 da gat b4 me un me matez cud kill um.
Wi shud b abel 2 stop gats wurkan so ppl cannit jmp away 2 safty cuz ma matz wer 2 stpid 3 nut shuut im n cach m n da odda side.


you sir are a god of the English language


For only a god can truly destroy something!

Wythos
Posted - 2009.07.21 22:09:00 - [25]
 

Quote:
ok, sorry i'm a bit hungover so ended up using the wrong situation mixed with the OPs lazy (******ed) camper attitude.

Enemy warps to gate get bubbled, everybody agro'd because they want to get on the killmail, normaly you'd just jump through the gate and possibly escape that way if the other side is clear or also camped by a ****** who's cruising ****hub while he camps waiting for the next ibis to jump through.

OP just wants...
...oh wait...
we wuz campin dis gat wen da bager blitzt in n wen wa shot atid id jumpt threw n fuct off, n wi cuddn jmp afta it. Wi shud ba abul ta shoot dem gats t stop dem workin.#
Waaagh!


If you think it might be abused by people for lazy ganking then say so, dont start accusing other people of such behaviour. Most of my time seems to be spent CHASING people round 0.0 TRYING to get a fight, but watching people run when they are faced with equal odds.

It never ceases to amaze me how people think they can read someone elses mind and tell the whole world what they are thinking.. and be so totally wrong.

The points that have been made are..

1) It seems just SOOOOO unbelievabe that you can have a 100 man fleet shoot a gate for an hour and do 0 dammage. Surely there must be a way to allow this, even with severe penalties for doing so?

2) This would help hugely when you have two fleets running around each other and one decides to run.. this could be used to help force an engagment (yes, personally I am fed up chasing people around that just want easy ganks). With planning and intelligence it could also help one fleet escape from another too.. e.g. fleet runs and closes a gate behind them.

It could add a new dimension to 0.0 combat, and if the penalties were severe for doing it it wouldnt be an lazy ganking tool. it would be a usefull tactic in a specific tactical situation.


 

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