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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.07.12 23:15:00 - [211]
 

Originally by: Seph Res
not buyin the reset at all, waiting for proof


I do believe that Shamis cares a lot about you and your opinion.

I also believe he is very interested in all the opinions posted in this thread.

Laughing

Murrior
Amarr
Thundercats
B O R G
Posted - 2009.07.13 00:14:00 - [212]
 

Originally by: Sango Jaha
I guess as much as most of us would really like to believe that your standing reset is indeed a "real" reset, most of 0.0 are well aware of 0.0 politics and therefore are not fooled.

Reset on overview maybe, but PL forgot to mention the little lines of the contract:
- Not territorial warfare
- No moongold warfare
- If any of our "ex" allies have "BIG" issues, we'll be there to save our mutual asses.

Good start PL, but try harder. 0.0 still have some faith left in you. But not much.


In all honesty, why is this a bad thing?

This is a game with some horrible parts, and pos/sov warfare is one of those. So if they did find a way around it, isn't that a good thing? Sure it sucks on the point that you feel like playing in a pre-arranged match with lots of rules and never take it to the end but still, its an invitation to CCP to finally deal with it.

Gaius Capua
Amarr
Cow Boys From HeII
The Volition Cult
Posted - 2009.07.13 00:50:00 - [213]
 

It's important to this alliance that we convince empire pubbies of our reset by engaging in POS warfare. (Max style) against the NC. So don't worry. We will uphold our space honour.

Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.13 01:11:00 - [214]
 

Originally by: Reprimander

Sorry PL, going around ganking NPC'ers is only going to get you so much fun. There will come a time when you want something a bit more substantial - and this non-reset is not it.


NPC'ers in dreads and Motherships.

If only we could kill some real ships Killboard link is removed.Applebabe

Scatim Helicon
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.07.13 16:50:00 - [215]
 

Originally by: Reprimander
POS warfare is only boring when people don't defend.

You mean like that time when we invaded Delve?

Spiffy Sunkist
Gallente
Mob Thought
Posted - 2009.07.13 18:15:00 - [216]
 

Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Reprimander
POS warfare is only boring when people don't defend.

You mean like that time when we invaded Delve?


Or when bob invaded you.

Machine Delta
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.07.13 18:19:00 - [217]
 

Originally by: Spiffy Sunkist
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Reprimander
POS warfare is only boring when people don't defend.

You mean like that time when we invaded Delve?


Or when bob invaded you.


Which failed invasion attempt are you referencing? There are at least 3 notable ones.

Svett
Caldari
The Executives
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.07.13 19:28:00 - [218]
 

A PL reset just means you will see the titan dd'ing you on your overview instead of it being surprise sex.

Zaerlorth Maelkor
Minmatar
The Maverick Navy
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.07.13 20:50:00 - [219]
 

Originally by: Slap Chop
Or maybe privateers, they control everything anyhow.


Laughing

Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.07.13 23:09:00 - [220]
 

Originally by: Reprimander
Originally by: Lofe sXe
Edited by: Lofe sXe on 12/07/2009 15:49:54
Originally by: Kalek Astroth
enjoy the reset


we're better than you at "re"setting Laughing


[21:36:12] Liam Fremen > Seems like that your diplomats worth as nothing in TRI
[21:36:28] Liam Fremen > since you asked an agrement for not hot-dropping on stainwagon and eachoter
[21:36:46] Liam Fremen > i hope you had fun at loosing your face and your word for 1 kill

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[ 2009.07.11 19:57:23 ] INZi > I'm convoing you about the hotdrop incident
[ 2009.07.11 20:04:03 ] INZi > I want to personally apologise about the incident
[ 2009.07.11 20:08:03 ] INZi > only people we will be using caps vs in stain are Brick Squad



Given you have an agreement of no Sov warfare with 80% of 0.0, I find your approach to this matter more than a 'touch' hypocritical.




It's not hypocritical to point it out. It's hypocritical to act as though one is any different than anyone else.

It's pretty well-established that:

1. Everyone will bring what they can to a fight.
2. When it matters, everyone fights to "win" first and "get good fights" second.
3. Everyone will make deals that best suit their needs at a given time and take steps to limit their risk--- oftentimes regardless of their stated philosophies.

There is no problem with these things in and of themselves. Equivocating about the extent is self-serving at best.

The problem is that that there's a large contingent of the respondants in this forum (and others) who think they are different and/or better than everyone else and they smack anyone and everyone hard and often in order to "prove" it. This is where the hypocrisy comes in.



Palmer Eldritch
Gallente
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.07.14 00:49:00 - [221]
 

This reset means my chanceof being blown up by blues has reduced significantly.

Kell Braugh
Caldari
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.07.14 02:02:00 - [222]
 

Originally by: Gaius Capua
It's important to this alliance that we convince empire pubbies of our reset by engaging in POS warfare. (Max style) against the NC. So don't worry. We will uphold our space honour.


I'll believe that when I see it...

Eline Nephthys
Caldari
Paradox Collective
Black Legion.
Posted - 2009.07.14 09:40:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Efdi
Originally by: Seph Res
not buyin the reset at all, waiting for proof


pl is well known for trolling the 0.0 community with fakepost resets~


PL was well known to be neutral pirates roaming 0.0 with everyone flashy red. Does any of you still flash red?

Shamis Orzoz
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.14 15:01:00 - [224]
 

Originally by: Eline Nephthys
Originally by: Efdi
Originally by: Seph Res
not buyin the reset at all, waiting for proof


pl is well known for trolling the 0.0 community with fakepost resets~


PL was well known to be neutral pirates roaming 0.0 with everyone flashy red. Does any of you still flash red?


Most of snigg still flashes red.

NeoTheo
Caldari
M'8'S
Posted - 2009.07.14 15:17:00 - [225]
 

Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

Most of snigg still flashes red.


tis the way forward. ;)

congratulations on the standings re-set, have to admit being slightly cynical about it personally (not that my opinion matters), as no matter what the tag in game; friends will be friends; how long till you lot send a fully fledged attack to atlas's front door?

guess what i am saying is standing's reset or not, its more likly youd spend your time attacking ex GBC / BoB friends, than it is goons or NC, so not sure how this is anything other than posturing.

still all that said, GL to PL with the new standings.




BiaXia
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.07.14 15:19:00 - [226]
 

Originally by: NeoTheo
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

Most of snigg still flashes red.


tis the way forward. ;)

congratulations on the standings re-set, have to admit being slightly cynical about it personally (not that my opinion matters), as no matter what the tag in game; friends will be friends; how long till you lot send a fully fledged attack to atlas's front door?

guess what i am saying is standing's reset or not, its more likly youd spend your time attacking ex GBC / BoB friends, than it is goons or NC, so not sure how this is anything other than posturing.

still all that said, GL to PL with the new standings.






Are you kidding? PL love to kill goons, they killed more in the early days of the Delve War than anyone else did, as a matter of fact.

The Mittani
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.07.14 15:27:00 - [227]
 

Originally by: NeoTheo

congratulations on the standings re-set, have to admit being slightly cynical about it personally (not that my opinion matters), as no matter what the tag in game; friends will be friends; how long till you lot send a fully fledged attack to atlas's front door?



no one wants to own omist so an invasion of atlas's core is about as likely as an invasion of catch

NeoTheo
Caldari
M'8'S
Posted - 2009.07.14 15:43:00 - [228]
 

Originally by: BiaXia

Are you kidding? PL love to kill goons, they killed more in the early days of the Delve War than anyone else did, as a matter of fact.


Couldnt tell what was happening at that time mate, i was double bubbled in some station holding some firesale for you lot ;)


Shamis Orzoz
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.14 17:42:00 - [229]
 

Originally by: NeoTheo
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

Most of snigg still flashes red.


tis the way forward. ;)

congratulations on the standings re-set, have to admit being slightly cynical about it personally (not that my opinion matters), as no matter what the tag in game; friends will be friends; how long till you lot send a fully fledged attack to atlas's front door?

guess what i am saying is standing's reset or not, its more likly youd spend your time attacking ex GBC / BoB friends, than it is goons or NC, so not sure how this is anything other than posturing.

still all that said, GL to PL with the new standings.






Yes, I'm sure it will come as a great shocker that we'll be more likely to attack ex-GBC/allies than we are to attack our own former allies.

However, the whole point of a standings reset is that we can go wherever we want, and shoot whatever we want, on a whim. Don't expect any large military campaigns from us anytime soon. Do expect us to randomly show up in everybody's back yard for a turkey shoot.

Eltyron
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.14 18:09:00 - [230]
 

Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Do expect us to randomly show up in everybody's back yard for a turkey shoot.



I'm pretty sure our enemies would consider it a harpooning session. Plus we can use these sessions to trim the fat.


Eline Nephthys
Caldari
Paradox Collective
Black Legion.
Posted - 2009.07.14 18:35:00 - [231]
 

Edited by: Eline Nephthys on 14/07/2009 18:36:11
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Eline Nephthys
Originally by: Efdi
Originally by: Seph Res
not buyin the reset at all, waiting for proof


pl is well known for trolling the 0.0 community with fakepost resets~


PL was well known to be neutral pirates roaming 0.0 with everyone flashy red. Does any of you still flash red?


Most of snigg still flashes red.


Grats, but I'm speaking about PL and what it use to stand for. Not 1 corp out of 26 in what became of "modern PL".
Not saying its bad, just pointing that things change. PL had a reputation, and still has. Just not quiet the same reputation.

edit: even worst grammar than now

Admiral Frools
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.14 19:01:00 - [232]
 

Originally by: Eline Nephthys


Grats, but I'm speaking about PL and what it use to stand for. Not 1 corp out of 26 in what became of "modern PL".
Not saying its bad, just pointing that things change. PL had a reputation, and still has. Just not quiet the same reputation.

edit: even worst grammar than now


It would help if you would elaborate on what you think PL had a reputation for Wink

If it was roaming everywhere in eve and blowing **** up, then this reset brings us as close as we're going to ever come to that short of turning back time. Either way, I'm sure "modern PL" will enjoy it, flashy red or not (I FLASH RED) Razz

Daviclond
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.07.14 19:32:00 - [233]
 

gah. those PL guys used to have a name, a reputation behind them. then they started posting like goons. now look at them.

Mizdek
Caldari
Better Dead Then Smeg
Posted - 2009.07.14 19:43:00 - [234]
 

I know you're all ignoring him and stuff, but is Orree's chat supposed to be ironic or something? No one really types like that, do they?

Kilostream
Caldari
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.07.14 21:06:00 - [235]
 

Edited by: Kilostream on 14/07/2009 21:07:52
GL, HF, C Ya next time!

XxAngelxX
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.14 21:41:00 - [236]
 

Originally by: Eltyron
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Do expect us to randomly show up in everybody's back yard for a turkey shoot.



I'm pretty sure our enemies would consider it a harpooning session. Plus we can use these sessions to trim the fat.




oh no you di'nt!

also, i, too, am flashy red

NeoTheo
Caldari
M'8'S
Posted - 2009.07.14 22:53:00 - [237]
 

Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

Yes, I'm sure it will come as a great shocker that we'll be more likely to attack ex-GBC/allies than we are to attack our own former allies.



I deserved that, fair cop. ;)


Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

However, the whole point of a standings reset is that we can go wherever we want, and shoot whatever we want, on a whim. Don't expect any large military campaigns from us anytime soon. Do expect us to randomly show up in everybody's back yard for a turkey shoot.



Enjoy, after what must have been a eyebleedingly long campaign i am sure you guys (and gals) deserve it.

/Theo

dastommy79
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
Posted - 2009.07.14 23:40:00 - [238]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: NeoTheo

congratulations on the standings re-set, have to admit being slightly cynical about it personally (not that my opinion matters), as no matter what the tag in game; friends will be friends; how long till you lot send a fully fledged attack to atlas's front door?



no one wants to own omist so an invasion of atlas's core is about as likely as an invasion of catch


Confirming Omist is pretty terrible. I honestly might prefer lowsec to it in hindsight.
Its the worst thing goons could ever do to atlas.

SK Rooster
Gallente
No Trademark
Killboard Online
Posted - 2009.07.15 02:09:00 - [239]
 

Originally by: Orree
It's pretty well-established that:

1. Everyone will bring what they can to a fight.


Not everyone brings what they can to a fight, some people like myself believe to bring only what is necessary to win the fight. One of the few things that is still fun in this game is a challenging fight.

If you find fun in winning fights where you outnumber the opponent by a factor of five over and over then you are truly missing out on the best part of eve.


Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.15 04:05:00 - [240]
 

Originally by: Eltyron
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Do expect us to randomly show up in everybody's back yard for a turkey shoot.



I'm pretty sure our enemies would consider it a harpooning session. Plus we can use these sessions to trim the fat.






Well played good sir , well played .



PS: You do know they outlawed whaling , right ?


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