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Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
Posted - 2009.07.06 14:00:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Maddan69 on 06/07/2009 20:09:59
Edited by: Maddan69 on 06/07/2009 18:20:10
On Saturday the 4th of 2009 I walked away with roughly 30b in liquid isk / assets. For the past 4 months I had been debating on leaving the corp to do something better with myself but at the time I believed I could salvage what I believed the old BYDI stood for. I was wrong. For all the good Villwrath has done for the corp he has turned the corp into a banner I cannot fly under anymore. Ug should have closed the corp 6 months ago because BYDI isnt BYDI anymore. Itís more like Vill's corp and none elses.

I had been in corp for 18 months pretty much bending over backwards for every single member. I took care of all the loot sales and managed all the corp hangars. I never took any isk from sales because I actually enjoyed doing what I did. Everyone who flew under my wing knew that I could lead them in the right direction because EVE is like second nature to me. I think my own statistics speak for themselves: http://bydi.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=Maddan69

A lot of members believe I have been planning this heist for months but thatís not even close to being true. Friday night we were just doing our usual camp / roam when Vill decided to belittle me over coms and director chat over something ridiculous stupid. This was my breaking point. I logged off a half hour later went to sleep and woke up the next morning and went to town. Took 1 hour with another hour just for Villís invention pos which I thoroughly enjoyed taking down. BYDI owns 8 cad moons of which I could have easily took but I felt I had done enough.

I am sorry to the pilots that trusted me the most so this goes out to Crazy, Dagan, Monica, Bacci, Juan, Muad, Oso, and Ug. There is a lot more names to mention but you guys know who you are.

If anyone wants a copy of all BYDI tacticals, images of POS defences plus POS locations, and Cap List send Maddan69 an evemail.

I like to quote something before I go: ďSurvival of the fittest is the law of nature. We deceive or we are deceived. Thus, we flourish or perish. Nothing good ever happened to me when I trusted others. That is the lesson. See you in Space, Cowboy.Ē

Mad

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.07.06 14:22:00 - [2]
 

Cool Story Bro

But really, why not stage a coup?

oodin
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.06 14:25:00 - [3]
 

sad to see this today when i logged on after a week of summer,beer,music festival and chicks maddan,but its just a game Wink

but please dont come on here pretending you was stepped on soooo badly you had to do this. a old bydi member was returning to bydi that you didnt like so you went and cleaned out the assets in a emoragequit Laughing

we respected and we loved you so if you felt mistreated you should have said so Wink
BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DID YOU HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE DESSYS FOR THE "HULKAMANIA"??? Crying or Very sad

oodin
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.06 14:27:00 - [4]
 

PS.bydi tacticals??? Laughing you know that we allways start chearing when someone is probing us out Twisted Evil

Jonny 101
Posted - 2009.07.06 14:51:00 - [5]
 

Did you steal the cap 800s aswell or did you leave them?

Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
Posted - 2009.07.06 15:12:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Jonny 101
Did you steal the cap 800s aswell or did you leave them?


I cleaned house on everything. Cap 800 were melted into minerals of course.

Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2009.07.06 15:13:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 15:14:55
A corp thief always tries to justify their actions. In the end, they're still just a corp thief.

Nothing justifies screwing your entire corporation over.


Sorry to hear you guys got screwed. Nothing but respect for BYDI.
Hint to the OP: When a corp changes away from what you joined for you find a new corp and politely say your goodbyes. If you have any class whatsoever. You don't go looting the entire corp to fatten your own wallet.

Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
Posted - 2009.07.06 15:31:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Taram Caldar
Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 15:14:55
A corp thief always tries to justify their actions. In the end, they're still just a corp thief.

Nothing justifies screwing your entire corporation over.


Sorry to hear you guys got screwed. Nothing but respect for BYDI.
Hint to the OP: When a corp changes away from what you joined for you find a new corp and politely say your goodbyes. If you have any class whatsoever. You don't go looting the entire corp to fatten your own wallet.


Quoted just because of fact your a BYDI pet. I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk.


Morgan La'Chance
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.07.06 15:47:00 - [9]
 

Why, exactly, would he leave gracefully? There's no reason to.

I do find this pretty graceful though - no swearing, no impotent rage, but just a nice and clean assets sweep. If a CEO treats a contributing member badly, then this is how that member can have his revenge. Maddan is not at fault here.

MMoroz
Beyond Divinity Inc
Posted - 2009.07.06 16:01:00 - [10]
 

Lol what a drama, grow some balls Maddan( thought better about you ), stop whining and excuses, you stole our stuff - **** happens, but stop making this stupid excuses be a man.

If you had a problem with what is going with corp, you should bring it up, give us your ideas. Never saw you do anything like that, how you even ever tried to tell Vill to stfu Twisted Evil and tell him what you dislike? I am guessing no. Dude seriously what were you doing in this corp for last 6 months if you disliked it so much ( this is game, we are playing this for fun - i thinkQuestion ).

So stop this emorage and have fun, if you bring some friends to fight us i will even forget about this emo-****

P.S.
If anyone wants our tacticals and all that other info-****, you can simply ask us - thought everyone knew it( ofc we are lazy, so don`t get your hopes up Twisted Evil )

Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
Posted - 2009.07.06 16:04:00 - [11]
 

Drama BOMB Laughing, we're validated guys, this is like the Paris Hilton sex tape, you're not cool till you've got one out there.

Really though Mad, you're just getting off on the smack or something now. ****ed at one guy and you go and screw over your boys? Lol, now offering up tacticals and cap list? Looking more and more like the emoragequit broheim.

Ah well, internet spaceship game, last I checked we've put up over 44B in kills so far this month, I'd say we're still doing fine. Have fun and enjoy the isk.

Jones Bones
Burning Napalm
Posted - 2009.07.06 16:07:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Jones Bones on 06/07/2009 16:11:57
I <3 my BYDI bros.

Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
Posted - 2009.07.06 16:15:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: MMoroz
Lol what a drama, grow some balls Maddan( thought better about you ), stop whining and excuses, you stole our stuff - **** happens, but stop making this stupid excuses be a man.

If you had a problem with what is going with corp, you should bring it up, give us your ideas. Never saw you do anything like that, how you even ever tried to tell Vill to stfu Twisted Evil and tell him what you dislike? I am guessing no. Dude seriously what were you doing in this corp for last 6 months if you disliked it so much ( this is game, we are playing this for fun - i thinkQuestion ).

So stop this emorage and have fun, if you bring some friends to fight us i will even forget about this emo-****

P.S.
If anyone wants our tacticals and all that other info-****, you can simply ask us - thought everyone knew it( ofc we are lazy, so don`t get your hopes up Twisted Evil )


Sigh in no shape or form have I Emorage/quit and I always have fun, just BYDI isnít the place anymore for that. Being a member of BYDI meant you knew who your comrades were off and on the field of battle. You knew the people you flew with their strengths their weaknesses for the past few months that has all changed. Vill went on a rampant hiring spree turning this corp not into a small gang warfare corp but into more like an alliance who solo purpose is to produce meat shields. I have plenty of ideas but all of them are the exact opposite of what Villís vision is for corp. He would never listen hence why I say itís not Ugís corp anymore its Vills. For those that know me I donít smack I think logical.

oodin
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.06 16:17:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Maddan69

I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk.




well if you dont care about the isk then i suggest you donate them to ugluuk so he gets a nice surprise when he returns to active duty again Wink

Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
Posted - 2009.07.06 16:30:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: oodin
Originally by: Maddan69

I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk.




well if you dont care about the isk then i suggest you donate them to ugluuk so he gets a nice surprise when he returns to active duty again Wink


You of all people shouldnt be telling me what to do with the isk.. Everyone knows oodin and Villwrath are also both corp theives... Now that you know.. Knowing is half the battle.. lol

Muad' Dib
Gallente
PWNED FACTOR HOLDINGS
Posted - 2009.07.06 16:41:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Maddan69
On Saturday the 4th of 2009 I walked away with roughly 30b in liquid isk / assets. For the past 4 months I had been debating on leaving the corp to do something better with myself but at the time I believed I could salvage what I believed the old BYDI stood for. I was wrong. For all the good Villwrath has done for the corp he has turned the corp into a banner I cannot fly under anymore. Ug should have closed the corp 6 months ago because BYDI isnt BYDI anymore. Itís more like Vill's corp and none elses.

I had been in corp for 18 months pretty much bending over backwards for every single member. I took care of all the loot sales and managed all the corp hangars. I never took any isk from sales because I actually enjoyed doing what I did. Everyone who flew under my wing knew that I could lead them in the right direction because EVE is like second nature to me. I think my own statistics speak for themselves: http://bydi.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=Maddan69

A lot of members believe I have been planning this heist for months but thatís not even close to being true. Thursday night we were just doing our usual camp / roam when Vill decided to belittle me over coms and director chat over something ridiculous stupid. This was my breaking point. I logged off a half hour later went to sleep and woke up the next morning and went to town. Took 1 hour with another hour just for Villís invention pos which I thoroughly enjoyed taking down. BYDI owns 8 cad moons of which I could have easily took but I felt I had done enough.

I am sorry to the pilots that trusted me the most so this goes out to Crazy, Dagan, Monica, Bacci, Juan, Muad, Oso, and Ug. There is a lot more names to mention but you guys know who you are.

If anyone wants a copy of all BYDI tacticals, images of POS defences plus POS locations, and Cap List send Maddan69 an evemail.

I like to quote something before I go: ďSurvival of the fittest is the law of nature. We deceive or we are deceived. Thus, we flourish or perish. Nothing good ever happened to me when I trusted others. That is the lesson. See you in Space, Cowboy.Ē

Mad



You sure feel sorry about it.

I told you before, the biggest loss is the fact that we lost a very active and good director - good at least from the management pov.

PS: Did you really have to take the Hulkamania fits ?
You know they were worth very little. :(

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2009.07.06 16:42:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 06/07/2009 16:42:42

Several of my old corpmates are in BYDI. I considered that corp to be a possible option in the event RHN implodes. This theft is most unfortunate Crying or Very sad

Ugluuk
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
Excuses.
Posted - 2009.07.06 16:44:00 - [18]
 

As Ceo of Beyond Divinity i can might aswell throw in some words..

Before the comments about Maddan being cool and Maddan being a ****** comes i can tell people about him..

Maddan69 was one of the most loyal and dedicated members the corp have had..
He is one of those that join your corp and instantly show you that he has leadership qualities besides great skills as pvp pilot..
He did the jobs we gave him and also asked if he could do the little extra that others slacked on..
When he got promoted to director he had control over loot and sales and kept everything in top shape..
He has never been a guy that complains and his personality made me often turn to him to get advices on ideas i had..

So now you guys atleast know how important he has been for the corp and if you are confused about why he robbed us then im just as confused as you..

This is a corp theft we coldn`t protect ourselfes against..You dont think a second about a pilot that has had 2946 kills for the corp and been handling director stuff for a year will rob you..
But it happened and that`s that..
Bydi never had isk before and i think it is best that way..

Maddan got himself some money but he lost many friends that valued him highly in BYDI..Isk can always be replaced..

As a side note: we all know that the way BYDI played this game in the past is not an option anymore..We used to go into any fight for fun but in these times with rigs that cost the same as the ship and expensive clones you cant keep up with the losses if your wallet aint fat..
Unfortunately Eve has moved on and so has BYDI..We no longer suicide big amounts of battleships..

Good luck in the future tho mate and if you want a chat then convo me..



Hoo Is
Posted - 2009.07.06 17:06:00 - [19]
 

BYDI is fail anyway... you did them a favor

Mhorbaine
Beyond Divinity Inc
Posted - 2009.07.06 17:08:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Mhorbaine on 06/07/2009 17:09:28
my tuppence worth...

Whilst me n you havent always seen eye to eye on fits/ship usage/losses etc I still am struggling to believe that you actually did this lot :)

Overall the stuff in the corp is always there as a slush fund so its not gonnae hugely affect the way we fly, after all the criteria to join is that your self-suffient isk wise.... sure it'll hurt if we loose caps but that doesnt happen everyday and within a month i'm sure it'll all of been replaced.

The one thing that i've had a hard time understanding is why u cleaned up the corps stuff... sure some people may argue that vill is the driving force behind the corp at the moment & as such taking everything hurts him most but i wouldnt aggree... you kno well enough that without people like urself, muad, bacci, crazy, uggi, monica & other BYDI boyos that the corp wouldnt be where it is today... that cash was generated as much by their blood, sweat and bottled carebear tears as vills...

Nyways i digress - best of luck i guess in the future, next time try n not give me such a scare to log the brothel in to find it sittin in freespace without the pos around it :D

Ninja edit: the biggest loss out of all this lot tbh is urself... poor old muads gonnae go nuts organising everything on his own... i'm takin bets of 3months till he has a nervous breakdown n we discover just how many alts comprise his personal army :)

Kylira Ulfrinn
Blackstaff Logistics
Posted - 2009.07.06 17:32:00 - [21]
 

Give the isk to me and I will distribute it fairly.

oodin
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.06 17:46:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Maddan69
Originally by: oodin
Originally by: Maddan69

I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk.




well if you dont care about the isk then i suggest you donate them to ugluuk so he gets a nice surprise when he returns to active duty again Wink


You of all people shouldnt be telling me what to do with the isk.. Everyone knows oodin and Villwrath are also both corp theives... Now that you know.. Knowing is half the battle.. lol

Laughing cmon maddan dont compare my 11 days in swigg to your over 2 years in bydi..i was with strangers there but you was with friends..
besides i donated alot of stuff that was leeroyed by bydi pilots from my "uberheist" Laughing

Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2009.07.06 17:49:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 18:00:03
Originally by: Maddan69
Originally by: Taram Caldar
Edited by: Taram Caldar on 06/07/2009 15:14:55
A corp thief always tries to justify their actions. In the end, they're still just a corp thief.

Nothing justifies screwing your entire corporation over.


Sorry to hear you guys got screwed. Nothing but respect for BYDI.
Hint to the OP: When a corp changes away from what you joined for you find a new corp and politely say your goodbyes. If you have any class whatsoever. You don't go looting the entire corp to fatten your own wallet.


Quoted just because of fact your a BYDI pet. I was gonna leave peacefully until Vill changed my mind. No need to justify anything I dont even care about the isk.




Confirming a empire based Merc corp needs to be someone's "pet" in order to ... what was it again that you said we were pets for? LaughingLaughingLaughing

Naw I just don't get how anyone who claims they have friends in a corp can backstab all of them this way then try to claim some moral high ground to justify it all. I have crossed swords more times than I can count with BYDI and as such have a decent ammt of respect for their history in the game. Ugluck goes way back and while I haven't ever *liked* him I've always respected him :)

TBH stealing from a corp you claim to have friends in is just something I can never wrap my head around. And it's not like I've never had the opportunity. Plenty of times when I've left corps/alliances I've had more than sufficient roles to make off with billions in assets and royally screw them over. I've never even thought to do such a thing though. It has nothing to do with E-Honor and everything to do with respecting the people I have flown with enough not to screw them over.

Just my 2.5 cents.

Not like it matters. Sounds like BYDI is taking it in stride to me. I just get ill when I see people **** over a friend for a few stupid isk.

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2009.07.06 17:57:00 - [24]
 

We need to be pets to point out the fact he's a scumbag Taram, do keep up.

Rolling Eyes

Villwrath
Final Agony
B A N E
Posted - 2009.07.06 17:58:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Maddan69
I have plenty of ideas but all of them are the exact opposite of what Villís vision is for corp. He would never listen hence why I say itís not Ugís corp anymore its Vills. For those that know me I donít smack I think logical.


Due to your continued ranting of the situation, I can see that the guilt hasn't fully settled in yet Maddan. Give it time, it takes time.

You can make all the excuses you want about how the corp wasn't going you way, Vill runs this corp and he would never listen to me anyhow but we all know it's complete bs.

This is not my corp. This is not Ug's corp. This is ALL of ours corp, down to every last member we have, and I have done everything in my power since I've been here to make it so.

If your going to stand here and say that I solely run this corp, and I don't listen to my other directors or members for ideas then your just a flat out liar.

I'd hate to let you in on this Maddan, but most of the best ideas we get are from other directors and other members.

The fact that you simply never came to me and told me how you felt, or gave me any ideas is your problem, not mine.

I'm not a mind reader, and I had no idea you felt this way about the corp, or myself personally. I think this came as much a shock to me as all the other corpmates who trusted you for years.

Piece of advice for you in the future; grow some balls, become a man, and learn how to speak up for yourself instead of bottling it all up inside and assuming that no one wants to listen to you.

Fact of the matter is I try my best to make sure that all of our leadership is equally involved in running this corp, but in the end, as we all know, it's up to each individual director to take on as much involvement as he wants to.

Ya you sold loot once every 6 weeks without taking a cut because you "enjoyed it"(as you said), so I suppose for that the corp owes you 30 Billion ISK right?

How many times did I want your opinion on something and get the answer "I don't care, or whatever you wanna do." Plenty. How many times did I ask you to help me with something and get "Can't do it, I gotta go kill ****!", just as many. Don't act like you did anymore for this corp than anyone else did, or that your opinion wasn't valued, because we all know the truth.

I don't blame you for putting this on me Maddan; every crook needs a scapegoat and a cover story to justify his actions. No one wants to look like the bad guy, that's just human nature.

I look at it this way, we paid 30 Billion to get rid of you, and imo that was ISK very well spent.

The assets and the ISK you stole will be easily replaced, it's just numbers on a database, pixels on our screens.

The admiration, trust and friendship you built up in this corp over the years that you just lost can never be replaced.

For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough.

RuleoftheBone
Minmatar
Black Viper Nomads
Posted - 2009.07.06 18:10:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Maddan69

On Saturday the 4th of 2009 I walked away with roughly 30b in liquid isk / assets.

On Saturday the 4th of 2009 I walked away with roughly 30b in liquid isk / assets.

On Saturday the 4th of 2009 I walked away with roughly 30b in liquid isk / assets.



Corp thief. End of.
Bet you are regretting it now.
Shame it happened to BYDI.

Maddan69
Blunt Force Syndicate
Posted - 2009.07.06 18:14:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Villwrath
For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough.


Guilt? Its a video game meant to be played like one. GG?

Ninja Fake Edit: I wish I could hear the ranting you must have been doing over the past few days. Also someone who was a corp theif lecturing someone about theifing is just... Rolling Eyes

Ashley Sky
The Eleventh Commandment
Posted - 2009.07.06 18:14:00 - [28]
 

The tears in this thread are so sweet. Mmm yes, so sweet. Let me tell you something, Vill... It takes maturity not to get upset over losing fake stuff. You got called out, so learn from the experience.

Maddan69, if you start feeling guilt I can help you get through it. Call up Ashley's counseling service. I'll teach you to perpetrate the worst evils with a smile on your face.

murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2009.07.06 18:23:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Villwrath


I look at it this way, we paid 30 Billion to get rid of you, and imo that was ISK very well spent.

The assets and the ISK you stole will be easily replaced, it's just numbers on a database, pixels on our screens.

The admiration, trust and friendship you built up in this corp over the years that you just lost can never be replaced.

For that, and for the guilt you will soon feel, should be punishment enough.


Well said.

Jonny 101
Posted - 2009.07.06 18:38:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Maddan69
Originally by: Jonny 101
Did you steal the cap 800s aswell or did you leave them?


I cleaned house on everything. Cap 800 were melted into minerals of course.


Then you're the lowest form of life in eve and there is -no- excuse for your actions, filth.


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