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Cippalippus Primus
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.07.05 10:10:00 - [91]
 

Mo'Chuisle owns.
Keep this in mind when you post about him.

craig0ss
Caldari
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
Posted - 2009.07.05 10:17:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Heath Ledger
Edited by: Heath Ledger on 04/07/2009 20:12:16

Atlas and AAA have reset Aggression., in a swift and effective move that has rendered dozens of coalition spy alts within their ranks useless.

Angry capsuleers are demanding that CCP reimburse them for their lost gametime, as these alts will now be useless until the inevitable rise of SMASHKILL/EXE/Skunkworks mk2.

Quote:
Atlas the other day attempted to screw Aggression by giving our space away to another alliance. Upon confrontation with this info to Bobby Atlas, he denied everything, even tho ive perfect proof. Bobby insted has reset us. MOVE ALL ASSETS OUT NOW!


Farewell sweet prince.



always said bobby atlas was a c**t!

NAFnist
Caldari
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.07.05 10:45:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Zumbala
I would be happy if we loose some more to you, if we can keep your alliance red.


i feel the same about you guys, but youre not my fav red, this belog cva <3

Ess Erbe
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.07.05 10:52:00 - [94]
 

Are you still a pvp alliance or has this changed.

Das Panzer
Minmatar
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.07.05 10:58:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver
There seems to be one high end moon in Immensea, could be wrong. Heard -A- has it.

When -a- is surrounded by all their enemies, which is 8/10th of 0.0 eve, they'll say hey guise, can we get some help?

But someone smart in -a- will pipe up and say, hey we got no one to help us, cause well we were getting all the high end moon income in their region, and well they had nothing to build off of.

starcraft rule #1 never die with money in the bank. -a- will die with 5 trillion in the bank:)


This post, I love it.

Celestrias
Gallente
True Power Team
Posted - 2009.07.05 10:59:00 - [96]
 

So is it safe to guess that Atlas-blues will try to take over Immensea now and lose while spamming what kenny said?

Originally by: Centuri
Thanks for the outposts. :p

JumpStar III
Amarr
MicroFunks
Green Alliance
Posted - 2009.07.05 11:37:00 - [97]
 

Farewell little brown turd on the map

Sworn Absent
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.07.05 12:58:00 - [98]
 

agression. - in a month no-one will even remember who they were

Jinal Estok
Caldari
UNITED STATES ARMY
Libertas Fidelitas
Posted - 2009.07.05 15:56:00 - [99]
 

Edited by: Jinal Estok on 05/07/2009 16:41:44
Originally by: Funky Feeling
Are you just walking away from immensea?

no fights?


Most of the decent Aggro corps were already on the way out when this hit. Mamba, RCON, H.IN, Meltdown, Nomad, .CAN., just to name a few. Some have left already, some are giving it some time for the members who have not logged on to get their stuff out of the station. There was a leadership meeting Wednesday where issues were raised with alliance leadership and ignored, and that was the last straw for a lot of people.

I think most Aggro members have learned their lesson and will be careful to not ever be in an alliance that involves FoFF in the future. Lots of drama about whose fault it is, Snake or FoFF and the truth is really both. Both were terrible for the alliance. Both failed at leading an alliance, and both should never ever be involved in alliance leadership again. Snake at least was trying, he just didn't have a clue how to do it. FoFF's mistakes were far more selfish in nature.

Some fun facts about aggro:

Despite cursing carebears and macros, the alliance leadership knowingly handed over 1 of the best constellations to a group of macros to use. The entire WTE-CK was handed over to a corp of 8 players (only 7 of which could use combat ships). Only this corp of 8 people were allowed to farm the constellation, and all of Aggro was banned from going there. 100% utilization of the constellation was maintained by the macros, although their useage has dropped in the past few hours due to the cluster**** that is Immensea right now.

Aggro managed to F up their jump bridges and their own members were getting shot by them during the evac yesterday.

Aggro has managed to lose 2 jump freighters in the past few days. Panic induced evac = great killmails for others.

When PL jumped in a bait of a dozen caps a few days ago, the response fleet had not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR different fleet commanders. 1 fleet, 4 different people shouting contradictory orders on teamspeak. Obviously the results were not very impressive with a bunch of Aggro ships dead and not 1 PL ship killed.

FoFF and STEMP had word of the reset before the other corps. They put something out to the other CEOs only after people started asking why FoFF leadership was jumping so many assets out.

I don't think many of the CEOs were surprised by the Atlas reset. Aggro was a mess and was rapidly imploding already. All the reset did was speed things up a bit and cause corps who were looking for a new alliance to accelerate their evac of Aggro space.

ChronoLynx
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
En Garde
Posted - 2009.07.05 16:21:00 - [100]
 

Edited by: ChronoLynx on 05/07/2009 16:23:00
Edited by: ChronoLynx on 05/07/2009 16:21:19
Originally by: Jinal Estok
Aggro has managed to lose 3 jump freighters in the last few days. The same FoFF guy even managed to lose TWO.



Aggro only lost two jump freighters. Someone was statistic padding to make FoFF look bad and themselves look good. Check both killmails and you will find that they are indeed, identical except for the date.

First
Second

*edit* fail-hot-links.

*edit again* Found the pilot, name is either 'Dancul1001' or 'Arcturus Io'
Probably the later.

Funky Feeling
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.07.05 16:40:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Jinal Estok
Originally by: Funky Feeling
Are you just walking away from immensea?

no fights?


Most of the decent Aggro corps were already on the way out when this hit. Mamba, RCON, H.IN, Meltdown, Nomad, .CAN., just to name a few. Some have left already, some are giving it some time for the members who have not logged on to get their stuff out of the station. There was a leadership meeting Wednesday where issues were raised with alliance leadership and ignored, and that was the last straw for a lot of people.

I think most Aggro members have learned their lesson and will be careful to not ever be in an alliance that involves FoFF in the future. Lots of drama about whose fault it is, Snake or FoFF and the truth is really both. Both were terrible for the alliance. Both failed at leading an alliance, and both should never ever be involved in alliance leadership again. Snake at least was trying, he just didn't have a clue how to do it. FoFF's mistakes were far more selfish in nature.

Some fun facts about aggro:

Despite cursing carebears and macros, the alliance leadership knowingly handed over 1 of the best constellations to a group of macros to use. The entire WTE-CK was handed over to a corp of 8 players (only 7 of which could use combat ships). Only this corp of 8 people were allowed to farm the constellation, and all of Aggro was banned from going there. 100% utilization of the constellation was maintained by the macros, although their useage has dropped in the past few hours due to the cluster**** that is Immensea right now.

Aggro managed to F up their jump bridges and their own members were getting shot by them during the evac yesterday.

Aggro has managed to lose 3 jump freighters in the last few days. The same FoFF guy even managed to lose TWO.

When PL jumped in a bait of a dozen caps a few days ago, the response fleet had not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR different fleet commanders. 1 fleet, 4 different people shouting contradictory orders on teamspeak. Obviously the results were not very impressive with a bunch of Aggro ships dead and not 1 PL ship killed.

FoFF and STEMP had word of the reset before the other corps. They put something out to the other CEOs only after people started asking why FoFF leadership was jumping so many assets out.

I don't think many of the CEOs were surprised by the Atlas reset. Aggro was a mess and was rapidly imploding already. All the reset did was speed things up a bit and cause corps who were looking for a new alliance to accelerate their evac of Aggro space.


interesting. We left a week before the shart hit the fan. I'd love to claim perfect knowledge and foresight like Gho but I guess I'm not as bright.. then again.. I didn't have the foresight and we left before it hit.. hmmm

For the most part.. I think Snake did a reasonably good job and was always cool to our corp. I think ultimately it was a number of F-OFF a$$wipes that undid anything Riven or Snake tried to do. They shouted down, *****ed and moaned and verbally pummeled anyone that didn't do as they wished. That was something I and our corp had rapidly grown tired of.

We left on good terms because Riven and Snake were good dudes. But there were too many evangelists in F-OFF that thought the alliance was theirs to abuse. It looks like they are getting what they deserved. Those in F-OFF that are tired of the BS in that drama boat...;-)


Jinal Estok
Caldari
UNITED STATES ARMY
Libertas Fidelitas
Posted - 2009.07.05 16:44:00 - [102]
 

Edited by: Jinal Estok on 05/07/2009 16:43:48
Originally by: ChronoLynx

Aggro only lost two jump freighters. Someone was statistic padding to make FoFF look bad and themselves look good. Check both killmails and you will find that they are indeed, identical except for the date.



Yep, fixed the original post.

Graalum
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.07.05 17:57:00 - [103]
 

snake seemed like a chill dude in that ts meeting, lord seth on the other hand was a raging ***got and people like him are probably the reason aggro is imploding.

Funky Feeling
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.07.05 17:59:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Graalum
snake seemed like a chill dude in that ts meeting, lord seth on the other hand was a raging ***got and people like him are probably the reason aggro is imploding.

Bingo.


Callum545
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.07.05 18:16:00 - [105]
 

hmm seems to be a trend here every alliance snakeyes is in seems to failcascade Confused

Mad Shade
Amarr
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.07.05 18:32:00 - [106]
 

Edited by: Mad Shade on 05/07/2009 18:34:08
Originally by: Jinal Estok
Most of the decent Aggro corps were already on the way out when this hit. Mamba, RCON, H.IN, Nomad, .CAN., just to name a few.


I LOL'd

Mad Shade
Amarr
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.07.05 18:34:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Callum545
hmm seems to be a trend here every alliance snakeyes is in seems to failcascade Confused


Yeah, a huge coincidence ? I think not.

Mistmare
Minmatar
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
Posted - 2009.07.05 19:05:00 - [108]
 

Edited by: Mistmare on 05/07/2009 19:08:06
Originally by: Jinal Estok
Edited by: Jinal Estok on 05/07/2009 16:41:44
Originally by: Funky Feeling
Are you just walking away from immensea?

no fights?


Most of the decent Aggro corps were already on the way out when this hit. Mamba, RCON, H.IN, Meltdown, Nomad, .CAN., just to name a few. Some have left already, some are giving it some time for the members who have not logged on to get their stuff out of the station. There was a leadership meeting Wednesday where issues were raised with alliance leadership and ignored, and that was the last straw for a lot of people.

I think most Aggro members have learned their lesson and will be careful to not ever be in an alliance that involves FoFF in the future. Lots of drama about whose fault it is, Snake or FoFF and the truth is really both. Both were terrible for the alliance. Both failed at leading an alliance, and both should never ever be involved in alliance leadership again. Snake at least was trying, he just didn't have a clue how to do it. FoFF's mistakes were far more selfish in nature.

Some fun facts about aggro:

Despite cursing carebears and macros, the alliance leadership knowingly handed over 1 of the best constellations to a group of macros to use. The entire WTE-CK was handed over to a corp of 8 players (only 7 of which could use combat ships). Only this corp of 8 people were allowed to farm the constellation, and all of Aggro was banned from going there. 100% utilization of the constellation was maintained by the macros, although their useage has dropped in the past few hours due to the cluster**** that is Immensea right now.

Aggro managed to F up their jump bridges and their own members were getting shot by them during the evac yesterday.

Aggro has managed to lose 2 jump freighters in the past few days. Panic induced evac = great killmails for others.

When PL jumped in a bait of a dozen caps a few days ago, the response fleet had not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR different fleet commanders. 1 fleet, 4 different people shouting contradictory orders on teamspeak. Obviously the results were not very impressive with a bunch of Aggro ships dead and not 1 PL ship killed.

FoFF and STEMP had word of the reset before the other corps. They put something out to the other CEOs only after people started asking why FoFF leadership was jumping so many assets out.

I don't think many of the CEOs were surprised by the Atlas reset. Aggro was a mess and was rapidly imploding already. All the reset did was speed things up a bit and cause corps who were looking for a new alliance to accelerate their evac of Aggro space.


Very nicely written. But there's something wrong. We (H.IN) weren't looking to leave, not at all. We decided to leave when atlas reset us and when someone told us that we're giving away the region. Then we decided to leave, otherwise we would be staying, fighting over immensea now.

Also:
AGGRO was imploding because of the Lord Seth ****. That's what caused the drama and what caused atlas to reset us. Am I right?

On the other hand someone told me that atlas planned this for a long time already, to use us to get some additional space for some other alliances or for them. Confusing :)

About H.IN, we're not sure where to go yet, our doors are open right now. We're nearly done with moving stuff out and we're going to move on. 1 thing: we're never gonna join the whole FW shi* :P



Oli Robbo
Gallente
Entity.
Posted - 2009.07.05 19:40:00 - [109]
 

Current situation in Immensea?



TRI were invited down by bobby but declined as there were too many blues and -A- would not give up the only high end moon in Immen [In the PPF system -Dyspro].

IRC are evacing from the drone lands and have been trying to the whole time, hense the whole shall we go to drones/geminate in the aggro meetings. [Also why Atlas, -A- and co havent been helping them out]. Bobby offered IRC the space after TRI declined, and along with a couple of smaller alliances is hoping to pack immensea full. [Apparently IRC has more of a stable leadership than Aggro did - Don't know who bobby hasnt been spying on recently but its obviously not IRC]..

Oh and hey IRC, there's a sov 4 const waiting for you so its not all bad..
[Don't feel down that TRI were asked first].


Status update as of now;

System: 2O-EEW

Moon: 2O-EEW VI - Moon 18, Type: Caldari Control Tower
Corp: The Collective, Alliance: Against ALL Authorities

Looks like -A- are dropping towers in select constelations to grab some more space..

NC Powerblob.. Roll out.

A lot of people/Corps in Aggro have been F*cked over by Bobby.. perhaps the NC should convo some Aggro Diplo's before all the holding corps dispand etc, and get some docking rights?

I heard it makes a great staging area..


Also, I try not to get involved with all this stuff, but i've made an exception this time.

Enjoy.


Derek Shmawesome
Minmatar
We Know Derek
Posted - 2009.07.05 20:52:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Oli Robbo
NC Powerblob.. Roll out.

A lot of people/Corps in Aggro have been F*cked over by Bobby.. perhaps the NC should convo some Aggro Diplo's before all the holding corps dispand etc, and get some docking rights?

What makes you think the NC will help you? I suppose they give a s*** about you and your former region. If you really believe the NC wants to claim southern space then you have been fooled by Molle's and ET's stories. They only told you this to claim the high-ends in the regions which you secured for them.

Aphrodite Sithe
Caldari
Black Serpent Technologies
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2009.07.05 20:55:00 - [111]
 

What high ends, it's Immensea. LOL I think the only high ends the area are held by -A- in Catch. (could be wrong) :D

Bayer22
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.07.05 20:56:00 - [112]
 

so no ****ing in our cornflakes? :( i guess i'll need a new place to roam for my folks..

Roark Garnet
Minmatar
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.07.05 20:57:00 - [113]
 

Sucks. You guys should come to Venal for pew pew.
Take care

Heath Ledger
Caldari
54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry
Posted - 2009.07.05 21:08:00 - [114]
 

Yeah, its a true statement that we don't really care about the space in that area.

About the time of the leaked plans for Atlas et all to invade the drone regions, we realized that Bobby Atlas was clearly mental, and as such the NC hasn't had to involve itself in any of those matters, other than sitting back and enjoying the comedy.

It sucks for the people in Aggression. who got royally screwed on this deal, but hey: That's what you get when you choose the side that has repeatedly used allies as "pets".

Ironnight
Caldari
x13
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.07.05 21:28:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Ess Erbe
Are you still a pvp alliance or has this changed.


No and no.

Dramaticus
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.07.05 21:45:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Black Jumper
Always Awful Allies.



goddamn son

Jinal Estok
Caldari
UNITED STATES ARMY
Libertas Fidelitas
Posted - 2009.07.05 22:03:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Aphrodite Sithe
What high ends, it's Immensea. LOL I think the only high ends the area are held by -A- in Catch. (could be wrong) :D


There is a dyspro in Immensea. Hint: its in the only -A- Sov system in Immensea.

marxist revolutionary
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.07.05 22:05:00 - [118]
 

with allies like AAA and Atlas who needs enemies

Martinez
Caldari
T-Cells
Moar Tears
Posted - 2009.07.05 22:13:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: marxist revolutionary
with allies like AAA and Atlas who needs enemies


lol you got that right.

Zumbala
Gallente
ICE is Coming to EVE
Not Found.
Posted - 2009.07.05 22:17:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Oli Robbo

NC Powerblob.. Roll out.

A lot of people/Corps in Aggro have been F*cked over by Bobby.. perhaps the NC should convo some Aggro Diplo's before all the holding corps dispand etc, and get some docking rights?

I heard it makes a great staging area..


Really? The NC did not want Querrious when offered. Why the hell anyone in the NC would want Immensea?


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