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45thtiger 0109
Posted - 2009.07.24 14:22:00 - [271]
 

Originally by: riverini
Edited by: riverini on 20/07/2009 15:36:09
Originally by: Zurrar
Originally by: Jon Ferguson
Fuel bay is good. You identified a real problem and came up with a solution that doesn't create more problems than it solves.

I don't like the rigs change. Losing a rigged frigate should still suck. If you insist on changing it, approximate costs should scale 3X 2X X instead of 25X 5X X. As it is you're going to make rigging a frigate mandatory and losing a rigged frigate no big deal.

Y'all don't seem to realize that EVE is a great game and EVE is a mature game. 50% on new content is way too much. 80-20 in favor of fixing bugs and refining what we already have is more like it. And resist your urge to make drastic changes, tinkering will fix 90% of the problems (real or imagined).

Show some WISdom and put an end to this WIS nonsense. Might be fun, might be ****e, but either way it's not internet spaceships and takes resources away from the game most of us are here to play.


hey dude... SHUT UP, go play YOUR game... thats what makes eve so great, it has FREE expansions, and you can play eve how YOU want to play it. lots of us want WIS, YOU DONT HAVE TO DO WIS. stop *****ing, tired of all the WIS *****ing thats going on... SHUT UP... christ... go play your damn game



Am going to start assuming that most ppl who YAWN at WIS are SOCIALLY INEPT PEOPLE (yeah a lot of those play MMO's) who are afraid of having their RL shortcomings exposed in a WIS environment...

now up for some RANTING...

OPEN LETTER TO CCP:

WALK IN STATION???? WHEN!!!!? CCP STOP IGNORING UR LOYAL USER BASE, IF WE WERE PROMISED SOMETHING, WE WANT AT LEAST SOME ANSWERS!!

How about some devblog of what u guys have been doing with WiS (if you haven't that project still shelved...), who care this COSMOS PoS, shell out something the majority of the users can actually enjoy... next expansion: better sovs mechanics, gotta be kidding me... how many of you devs get to really enjoy the new sovs mechanics...

Please pay attention to your clients...



Hey Dude please ST*U please leave CCP alone they do not like people like you who complain about WIS if you keep this up CCP might ban you for harrasment of the fourms.

I agree that CCP are fixing alot of bugs that needed to be fixed before they release any new major Patch like WIS.

A project like WIS takes alot of time to develop and Implememnt so please don't rush CCP on WIS.

You have to know that this is not WOW it is eve online which is a MMORPSG and you have to be gratefully that ccp are trying to reduce lag and other things to make eve online an experance like never before in a MMO.

If you don't like EVE-ONLINE Riverini please go back to another game like WOW and leave the rest of us to enjoy the best MMO in the world Thankyou.

5pinDizzy
Amarr
Pillow Fighters Inc
Posted - 2009.07.24 15:29:00 - [272]
 

Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 24/07/2009 15:32:27

P.S Even when the greatly reduced cost navy Ospreys aren't worth flying, you'd have to make them cost about 4 million isk each to be honest, they're totally useless.

They aren't even really superior to normal Ospreys, it's just a trade off.

Lose half your dronebay and a very useful logistics bonus and gain a crappy damage bonus and an extra midslot.

JitaPriceChecker2
Posted - 2009.07.24 16:10:00 - [273]
 

Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 24/07/2009 16:11:33
NVM

/post

Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
Posted - 2009.07.24 18:32:00 - [274]
 

Originally by: El'Niaga
Originally by: El'Niaga
Unimpressed, but then I've been unimpressed for the last few expansions.

Been playing for almost 4 years and you've talked about Ambulation for 4 years but have nothing really to show for it. Basically its clear that its not a priority, never really was and the teasers at the various fan fests are just that teasers. So basically it's vaporware.

It's been on the list of future development longer than anything else.

If you've found that it cannot be done, say so, stop leading people on. That goes for everything on the future features list that your working on that's been there 2 years or more (which is about 90% of what's there).

Then once you clean up the list actually put forth the honest future features you really are working on and keep the list manageable such that they could reasonably be done in a year or two.



Actually I'm a realist. For the functions stated they would provide 4 years is plenty of development time, there are games released that spend less time in development.

We are talking about inside stations of what 25 different station designs? Then a few changes of clothes, some modular spaces that allow a shop, office, bar, personal space, maybe a common deck area like DS9 (a Promenade).

No combat.

Since there is little in the way of game mechanics impact...no skills, etc. Some new BPOs perhaps for clothes. Your main input time would be artwork.

Thus I contend it has not been a priority and never was, just was offered as eye candy to dangle like a carrot in front of the donkeys.


I have to agree with that. WIS is pretty obviously marketing vapourware. The demos we've seen up until now can not be realitically implemented into the current EVE universe without some serious hardware and network improvements, as far as I see it. No, I think WIS basically a tool that CCP marketing uses to draw new players to eve, and holds out the carrot of WIS on occasion to keep interest up.

So much of Eve is pure bullshit. There never has really been a need for things like T2 or now T3. The essence of eve is moronic PvE and very good PvP, and you don't need all the extra bling for that. The extra stuff is simply timesink material to get people to spend more time waiting for whatever skill or amount of isk so that CCP keeps its revenues up.

riverini
Gallente
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.07.27 22:59:00 - [275]
 

Edited by: riverini on 27/07/2009 23:10:18
Edited by: riverini on 27/07/2009 23:08:20
Originally by: 45thtiger 0109
Originally by: riverini
Edited by: riverini on 20/07/2009 15:36:09
Originally by: Zurrar
Originally by: Jon Ferguson
Fuel bay is good. You identified a real problem and came up with a solution that doesn't create more problems than it solves.

I don't like the rigs change. Losing a rigged frigate should still suck. If you insist on changing it, approximate costs should scale 3X 2X X instead of 25X 5X X. As it is you're going to make rigging a frigate mandatory and losing a rigged frigate no big deal.

Y'all don't seem to realize that EVE is a great game and EVE is a mature game. 50% on new content is way too much. 80-20 in favor of fixing bugs and refining what we already have is more like it. And resist your urge to make drastic changes, tinkering will fix 90% of the problems (real or imagined).

Show some WISdom and put an end to this WIS nonsense. Might be fun, might be ****e, but either way it's not internet spaceships and takes resources away from the game most of us are here to play.


hey dude... SHUT UP, go play YOUR game... thats what makes eve so great, it has FREE expansions, and you can play eve how YOU want to play it. lots of us want WIS, YOU DONT HAVE TO DO WIS. stop *****ing, tired of all the WIS *****ing thats going on... SHUT UP... christ... go play your damn game



Am going to start assuming that most ppl who YAWN at WIS are SOCIALLY INEPT PEOPLE (yeah a lot of those play MMO's) who are afraid of having their RL shortcomings exposed in a WIS environment...

now up for some RANTING...

OPEN LETTER TO CCP:

WALK IN STATION???? WHEN!!!!? CCP STOP IGNORING UR LOYAL USER BASE, IF WE WERE PROMISED SOMETHING, WE WANT AT LEAST SOME ANSWERS!!

How about some devblog of what u guys have been doing with WiS (if you haven't that project still shelved...), who care this COSMOS PoS, shell out something the majority of the users can actually enjoy... next expansion: better sovs mechanics, gotta be kidding me... how many of you devs get to really enjoy the new sovs mechanics...

Please pay attention to your clients...



Hey Dude please ST*U please leave CCP alone they do not like people like you who complain about WIS if you keep this up CCP might ban you for harrasment of the fourms.

I agree that CCP are fixing alot of bugs that needed to be fixed before they release any new major Patch like WIS.

A project like WIS takes alot of time to develop and Implememnt so please don't rush CCP on WIS.

You have to know that this is not WOW it is eve online which is a MMORPSG and you have to be gratefully that ccp are trying to reduce lag and other things to make eve online an experance like never before in a MMO.

If you don't like EVE-ONLINE Riverini please go back to another game like WOW and leave the rest of us to enjoy the best MMO in the world Thankyou.



LOL @ the WOW card, dude, you just won a gold medal in the Special Olympics...

p.s.: you know, am pretty sure u are the kind of ppl that protest at the construction of a new highway even though u will be one of the main users when it's finished. And yes please keep heating up the discussion bcz this is what i want, an ongoing discussion to let our dev know that ppl is craving or in your case, losing their minds bcz of this.

BTW, how many Titan kills this week Tiger?

DeviloftheHell
Caldari
Hell's Courtyard
Posted - 2009.07.28 09:57:00 - [276]
 

congrat guys for the f**** capital bays give back t heir old cargo capacity and forbid to put fuel into that

Hun Jakuza
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming
Posted - 2009.07.28 09:57:00 - [277]
 

Edited by: Hun Jakuza on 28/07/2009 09:57:54
Nice capital cargo nerf again, and another useless drone rig " EW drone range augmentor. Grat CCP, nice work, just go ahead on your path :D

Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.07.31 09:11:00 - [278]
 

the question that strikes me the most is: will we be able to do the new epic story lines over and over again or can we do them only once each?

Cuchulain Spartan
Posted - 2009.07.31 13:08:00 - [279]
 

Originally by: Millsy1
On the Black ops changes.

Any ideas on the size of the fuel bay? Currently, even if it is the same size as the default cargo bay, it won't be much use. I would think a minimum size is 2000m3 to allow a decent sized gang. I would also think that the cost to jump frigates could be left the same, but jumping Force recons and Transports needs to be drastically reduced. Currently, it costs close to 300M3 just to jump one Transport 4.5 light years!

It still of course needs more range, and at least a small upgrade in resists to beat it's T1 counterpart.


/Signed

Liquelity
Amarr
Posted - 2009.08.01 17:54:00 - [280]
 

Mining laser crystal bays for mining barge/exhumers? please? :)

Saint VII
Minmatar
Murientor Tribe
Posted - 2009.08.03 12:01:00 - [281]
 

Are there patch notes?

Root Canal
Posted - 2009.08.07 23:26:00 - [282]
 

50% polishing and fixing? When will we be able to name POS corp hangars? When will the defect of alliance access to POS corp hangars be addressed? When will fleets be able to access the corp hangars in an Orca? When will the canflipping/drones exploit be recognized and addressed? When will anchoring/unanchoring/onlining delays for POS modules be made more reasonable? When will reasonable stickies be implemented in the research and manuf UIs? When will the bugs be fixed in the Eve launcher that cause serious crashes and 30+ second PC lockups while the crashed process dumps? When will the shortage of NPC research slots be addressed? When will unsubbed training be restored? When will the lies about the unsubbed training nerf be admitted? When will 30-day GTCs be restored? When will the game stop being ruined by endless nerfs?

Dansel
Gallente
Telsa inc
Waterboard
Posted - 2009.08.10 14:23:00 - [283]
 

Originally by: Root Canal
50% polishing and fixing? When will we be able to name POS corp hangars? When will the defect of alliance access to POS corp hangars be addressed? When will fleets be able to access the corp hangars in an Orca? When will the canflipping/drones exploit be recognized and addressed? When will anchoring/unanchoring/onlining delays for POS modules be made more reasonable? When will reasonable stickies be implemented in the research and manuf UIs? When will the bugs be fixed in the Eve launcher that cause serious crashes and 30+ second PC lockups while the crashed process dumps? When will the shortage of NPC research slots be addressed? When will unsubbed training be restored? When will the lies about the
unsubbed training nerf be admitted? When will 30-day GTCs be restored? When will the game stop being ruined by endless nerfs?



Soon i Hope XD

Although not very likely sadly, CCP should listen more on thier playerbase instead of just pblishing stuff randomly.
Some of the news feels like some guy at CCP just went, Hey, lets do this and see how many who quits

XeroxMachine
Posted - 2009.08.11 16:31:00 - [284]
 

can we haz update?!?!

Undahar
Posted - 2009.08.12 12:27:00 - [285]
 

Yeah, update
When will the patch be deployed?

Dakito
Minmatar
Iron Cross Incorporated
Aegis Militia
Posted - 2009.08.12 17:47:00 - [286]
 

Originally by: Liquelity
Mining laser crystal bays for mining barge/exhumers? please? :)


Ya I agree here. Well ammo bays in general.

Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2009.08.12 19:40:00 - [287]
 


Vengence
Posted - 2009.08.17 17:35:00 - [288]
 

Yeah, patch notes would be good :) :)

lylaal
Caldari
Posted - 2009.08.17 19:20:00 - [289]
 

dont be waiting till 23.59 before posting the patchnotes.

been waiting all day for the patchnotes as it was said they would be up today.

Vhiskey
Caldari
Imperial Forces
Posted - 2009.08.17 20:07:00 - [290]
 

Originally by: Undahar

When will the patch be deployed?


yes, when exactly?

Zey Nadar
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers
Posted - 2009.08.19 08:35:00 - [291]
 

Originally by: Vhiskey
Originally by: Undahar

When will the patch be deployed?


yes, when exactly?


Do people read news? Tomorrow.

Da' Hold
Posted - 2009.08.19 20:11:00 - [292]
 

All of those fixes you mentioned will be addressed after Dust 514 is deployed in 20?? and not before the patch to fix Dust 514 has been rewritten atleast a dozen times. By then there should be only a few players left in space which won't care one way or the other. Glad we old time players payed for our subscriptions monthly so they can pay more attention to another reindition of WOW.

Jumanat
Posted - 2009.08.19 20:42:00 - [293]
 

Originally by: Zey Nadar


Do people read news? Tomorrow.


Ty Zey. Cool. A new version of Eve is waiting for me when I return from vacation. Cool

Lusulpher
Gallente
Posted - 2009.08.21 09:34:00 - [294]
 

Edited by: Lusulpher on 21/08/2009 09:34:36
Just stating the new rig system reduces risk for people who rig, which will be EVERYBODY including mission carebears/Fotm "pvp"ers.

Implement Calibration points that scale and remove fitting restrictions, this is a sandbox, not WoW.

Gonna rig the crap out of my Ranis, just to see how much game-breaking occurs.

Hiro Intaki
Posted - 2009.08.25 22:48:00 - [295]
 

Originally by: Michel Licari
Edited by: Michel Licari on 02/07/2009 15:29:49
Edited by: Michel Licari on 02/07/2009 15:29:00
LP Store based on kills is Awesome!

There are 2 things that Ive thought of while reading the comments in this thread.

  • Scale the LP rewards for pvp kills based on the number and size of ships involved. This will encourage more small gangs and solo pvp, and also clean up any exploit possibilities. Im thinking of the griefwatch point system when I think of this.


  • Add diminishing returns on LP for pvp kills on the same character. This will (hopefully) stop people from exploiting by killing their own alts/friends.



Surely there is something CCP could do on their database side to tell when player1 shoots player2, based on the fact both players originate from the same account. Obviously this would only stop this exploit being used by single players with their alts, but isn't that a start Question


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