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CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2009.06.28 17:17:00 - [1]
 

In an effort to reduce the amount of character scams, GM workload and player frustration, the following changes are being made to the announcements concerning character sales or auctions for ISK. No other form of payment is sanctioned or supported. *updated

  1. The 'For Sale/Auction' post must be made by the character being offered. This is being added to prevent scams for characters that have been misrepresented, banned, non-existent, etc.

  2. You must disclose whether or not the character being sold has a negative balance in its wallet and the amount.

  3. The character being sold must receive the ISK for the purchase.

  4. The sell post must reflect the character correctly, posting that the character you're selling has more skillpoints or ISK than it actually has is a bannable offence.

  5. Items cannot be listed among the character's valuable assets, only skills, implants and reputation. You are buying/selling the character ONLY and nothing else. Ships and items can be readily bought on the market for ISK.

  6. You may only bump threads ONCE Per day. Date is determined by the date on the forum, not the date where you live. See this guide for more information on bumping.

  7. The new owner of the character may NOT pass himself off as the original owner.

  8. The character for sale must be from an active account, you cannot trade characters from inactive accounts.

  9. The character being sold must be in an NPC corporation.

  10. The character being sold must be older than 14 days old to avoid accidental transfers.

  11. The selling of accounts is prohibited, characters may only be sold individually.

  12. The owner of the character being sold is responsible for the character transfer fee paid to CCP.

  13. Prior to leaving a corporation, the character to be sold MUST send a corp-wide EVE mail stating that they are going to be sold and will be leaving for an NPC corporation.

  14. When a character is sold, please modify the topic title to reflect this to help other forum patrons know what characters are still available.

  15. Lottery style sales are not permitted. Auctions and buyouts are the appropriate method for selling a character.

  16. All scams involving character transfers are prohibited.

  17. Whenever a character is transferred before the seller has moved the ISK received from the sale to another one of their characters, the Customer Support team will return that ISK to the rightful owner. The buyer cannot expect to receive both the character and the ISK that they paid to purchase it.

  18. CCP Fallout talks about the 10 hour character transfer delay.

  19. Down-payment plans are not supported by CCP Customer Support. As a seller, you are agreeing to a certain amount of ISK only, which is to be paid in one payment. Once again, any forms of scams regarding character sales is prohibited



These changes are effective immediately. Posts made after this announcement will be edited with a link to this thread or deleted without notification.

Please post below with any rule change, new rule submission or resource you feel useful for fellow players or something you want to bring to our attention.

Agreements on the forums or in game, or winning an auction does not guarantee a character will be transferred to you. The seller may choose to renege on a deal at any time, prior to the transaction being completed

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2009.06.28 17:19:00 - [2]
 

Resources

Deckard Bishop's guide to buying and selling characters in EVE

Advice on what to do if you can't log into your new character straight away *fixed*

Wrangler warns about keyloggers

Things to do before selling your Characters Helpful tips by Xira Xarien

To confirm the effects of a negative isk character, they include:

* Inability to run agent missions with collateral.
* Inability to trade.
* Inability to use contracts.
* Anything involving having to pay for the service is unavailable.

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For all issues with character transfers please file a petition under billing-character transfers.
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Here is a good place to link your skills:
http://eveboard.com/

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2010.01.18 20:32:00 - [3]
 

FAQ


Q. HELP there is a scammer, hacker, or other issue with this thread. What do I do?
A. For all issues with character transfers please file a petition under billing-character transfers. You can also use the "report" function located on the top right of each post so the thread can be removed.

Q. If the character transferred to me is training a skill what happens?
A. The character transferred will stop skill training. You will need to log into it and restart the skill training like it was a normal secondary character on your account. This answer has been updated. Zymurgist

Q. Can I transfer my new character to a new account?
A. Of course! As long as an account activated, not a trial account, then it can receive a bought character.

Q. I keep getting the error that my old character is still logged in and won't let me transfer. What do I do?
A. Zorvoz found a work around that should fix your problem. Hopefully this will be fixed in the near future.

Q. "Is there any repercussions for sellers who post an auction and then do not follow up on it?" -Amor Loricatus
A. Character scams are not allowed, just file a petition and GMs will look into it and transfer your ISK back.

Q. Can I get a Price Quote?
A. Yes! Please use the Price Check forums though. Browsing for similar characters and how much they sold is also a great way to find a starting price.

Q. Is ISK the only currency for buying a Character?
A. Yes

Q. My character has ships and ISK still in their hangar and wallet. Can I put it up for sale still?
A. Of course, just please remove these items before transfer and do not calculate them into the price of the character. Be careful because all items will remain with the character upon transfer.

Q. Can I sell my Damnation, Navy Raven, Nyx, etc with my character?
A. Nope, but you can sell them in the Sell Order forums.

Q. That character scammed my corp why did you delete my post informing everyone they were a scammer?
A. Crime & Punishment was the appropriate place for these kind of discussions. You can see this post by CCP Spitfire for more information.

Q. Will misrepresenting available skill points in the free skill point pool be considered a scam?
A. Yes it is. Please do not do this as it is a petitionable offense.

Q. My post in this thread just got deleted! Do you hate me?
A. No! I love all of you! This thread has been cleaned up of posts and this FAQ posted mostly in the interest of keeping the thread small and information easy to access. If you feel your question has not been addressed post again and it can be answered and or added to this FAQ. Just remember, the right place to discuss any hacking, scamming, or other shenanagans is through the petition system.

You can also find a small FAQ on the account services page detailing some transfer questions.

Update: Rule 5 was modified on January 27, 2011. The requirement to remove all assets of value from the character was removed. Just remember that you are only selling the character. Assets should be sold in-game or on the Sell Oder forum but you are welcome to transfer them to the new owner via the Character Transfer.

Spoon1
Gallente
Industry and Investments
Posted - 2010.01.19 22:55:00 - [4]
 

What sort of time frames are put on Petitions for character scams? I am not moaning, just wondering when my 3 day old petition is going to actually be looked into.

Also, what happens to the people responsible for the attempted scam? The below reply is pretty vague. I would like to think if their intentions were dishonourable, they would have their accounts removed? The person who attempted to scam me could not write english properly during the negotiations, but types perfect english purchasing plex's for their other characters on the forums. Obviously a douche.

Q. "Is there any repercussions for sellers who post an auction and then do not follow up on it?" -Amor Loricatus
A. Character scams are not allowed, just file a petition and GMs will look into it and transfer your ISK back.

Dreadman Worker
Posted - 2010.01.20 09:31:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Dreadman Worker on 20/01/2010 09:32:16

The same with me . I was scammed by someone that could not write properly english, but when i checked forums i saw that he could write english perfectly. Well he said that hes norwegian and because of that his english is poor. I just filled a petition and im courious how long it take to get back my isk.

Katya Oktabyr
Dirt Nap Squad
Posted - 2010.01.20 13:27:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Dreadman Worker
Edited by: Dreadman Worker on 20/01/2010 09:32:16

The same with me . I was scammed by someone that could not write properly english, but when i checked forums i saw that he could write english perfectly. Well he said that hes norwegian and because of that his english is poor. I just filled a petition and im courious how long it take to get back my isk.


I am on day 9 of my scam petition and nothing...so it might take a long time.

Nampis
Posted - 2010.01.20 15:37:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Katya Oktabyr
Originally by: Dreadman Worker
Edited by: Dreadman Worker on 20/01/2010 09:32:16

The same with me . I was scammed by someone that could not write properly english, but when i checked forums i saw that he could write english perfectly. Well he said that hes norwegian and because of that his english is poor. I just filled a petition and im courious how long it take to get back my isk.


I am on day 9 of my scam petition and nothing...so it might take a long time.


Day 17 here :/

elliott cable
Caldari
Havoc Violence and Chaos
Chained Reactions
Posted - 2010.01.20 21:59:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: elliott cable on 20/01/2010 22:04:31
Uh, two questions.

Regarding rule №1; I’m selling multiple, identical (or damn near identical) characters. Quite a few of them. (I create mining alts, train them up to maxed mining skills, and then sell them individually). Do I seriously have to create a new thread, from each character? That seems… really spammy.

And as for №3, uh, how does that work? If I give them the character, then how do I use that character to receive the ISK? Shouldn’t my main receive the ISK for the character I will, uh, no longer have once I sell it?

Spoon1
Gallente
Industry and Investments
Posted - 2010.01.20 23:27:00 - [9]
 

You would think making character scam petition's would be high on CCP's priority list.

17 days. I find that unacceptable. I work in the IT Support industry myself. If one of my customers was waiting 2-3 days for acknowledgement (not solution) of a support call/log/ticket, I would be down the road, or in severe strife at work.

I have now been waiting 4 days for an acknowledgement of my support ticket. A simple, 'thanks we are looking into the problem, we will be back with you within x hours/days' would be acceptable.

CCP you need to allocate more resources to managing petitions. I hate taking the stance I am paying for this game but I expect things to be handled in a timely fashion and I am paying for your services.

More needs to be discussed on this issue to find a solution to all of our problems as it is obvious, things are not working currently.

Dreadman Worker
Posted - 2010.01.21 04:23:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Dreadman Worker on 21/01/2010 04:28:22
Hope 17 day time isnt really true. If it is so then its below any acceptable level in imho. What about scammer account ? If it would be still active he may scam more and more people within these 17 day :(. I agree that scamming at the character bazar should have highest prioryty.

Btw CCP should put on the top sticky topic on character bazar "How to avoid scamm" Where would be information when you should suspect you will be scammed .
They have also to change character transwering system to - First send me isk and then mayby i send you character isnt safe for buyers. I think it should be made like trading in the station where buyer put isk in some kind of window and seller put there his character to , then they both have to click accept to make deal. Scams still would be possible but that would be much much harder...

Naked Neelix
Posted - 2010.01.21 05:13:00 - [11]
 

As asked above, if the isk has to be sent to the character being sold and if this is true...

Quote:
Character transfers occur instantaneously; however, once the transfer has been effected, the player receiving the new character will be unable to log into his new purchase until AFTER ONE downtime period has passed.


Does this mean that I can still log into the sold char and move my isk to my main account?

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
Posted - 2010.01.22 02:58:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Naked Neelix
As asked above, if the isk has to be sent to the character being sold and if this is true...

Quote:
Character transfers occur instantaneously; however, once the transfer has been effected, the player receiving the new character will be unable to log into his new purchase until AFTER ONE downtime period has passed.


Does this mean that I can still log into the sold char and move my isk to my main account?


I hope you are just kind of dumb and not a troll, because I am actually going to give you a step by step answer.

Step One: Have ISK transferred to the character being sold from the buyer.

Step Two: Open address book, click on alt, click 'give ISK'.

Step Three: Type in the amount of ISK you are transferring to your alt and click OK.

Step Four: Check wallet to be sure it is empty.

Step Five: Transfer character.

Mr Epeen

Janiries Swordhand
Posted - 2010.01.22 16:31:00 - [13]
 

Do the seller need the name of my account or the name of my char to transfer the character to?

Sigma Toah
Posted - 2010.01.22 17:16:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Nampis
Originally by: Katya Oktabyr
Originally by: Dreadman Worker
Edited by: Dreadman Worker on 20/01/2010 09:32:16

The same with me . I was scammed by someone that could not write properly english, but when i checked forums i saw that he could write english perfectly. Well he said that hes norwegian and because of that his english is poor. I just filled a petition and im courious how long it take to get back my isk.


I am on day 9 of my scam petition and nothing...so it might take a long time.


Day 17 here :/

17 Days. Ouch. I'm going to have to wait for 3 weeks to get billions of isk back. That is just awful and no way to combat real money traders.

Spoon1
Gallente
Industry and Investments
Posted - 2010.01.23 06:12:00 - [15]
 

Awesome. Another purchase not completed because of a hacked account. That's two in the space of a week.

Sigma Toah
Posted - 2010.01.26 03:51:00 - [16]
 

Sigh, still waiting.

Dark Scania
Posted - 2010.01.26 16:36:00 - [17]
 

in what category i need to post petition if i was scam on buying character ?
i post in Billing-Character Transfer categories, BUT WHERE NO ANSWER. and i dont wanna wait more 17 days Shocked

Sigma Toah
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:24:00 - [18]
 

I was taken care of today, and wait 5 dayish.

Ceridwen's Tor
Posted - 2010.01.27 03:59:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Ceridwen''s Tor on 27/01/2010 04:18:12
I sub. to eve using GTCs, always have and will.

I want to transfer one of my toons to another person, I don't have access to my own credit card.

Is it against the rules to use a credit card in another name other than mine, even with the card holders permission ?

Let me make it clear though, the Card holder has no connection to Eve or the account or anything like that. Card holder is purely someone who is willing to let me use their card so I can do the transfer.

I don't plan on getting a credit card, so whats the procedure when your in this position ?

Ceridwen's Tor
Posted - 2010.01.27 04:14:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Ceridwen''s Tor on 27/01/2010 04:16:58
Removed - Thought I found my answer, re-read post and it was on the wrong track.

Dreadman Worker
Posted - 2010.01.27 09:04:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Dreadman Worker on 27/01/2010 11:24:09
Edited by: Dreadman Worker on 27/01/2010 09:05:49
Originally by: Sigma Toah
I was taken care of today, and wait 5 dayish.


Huh so quick?.. And im waiting 8 days now and nobody even looked into my petition. Thought there is a quenue ?
In what category did you post your petition , (i posted at billing&account ->character transfers )?

PS: I just got my isk back

Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
Posted - 2010.01.28 15:10:00 - [22]
 

On Chribbas eveboard page you can get your character listed as "for sale". But the real merit of it is, that you can search among the characters offered according to the skills you are looking for. Try it out, its really neat.

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2010.01.29 21:51:00 - [23]
 

Hello Character Traders! There is some new info up in the rules. I say info cause it's a rule, but it's also an advisory.

When transferring a character the original account’s remaining time is not able to be transferred to any other account. After the character transfer the original account’s reoccurring payments will remain unaffected and is not canceled unless you manually do so in Account Management.

Hope that helps some of you out!

Natasja Podinski
Posted - 2010.01.30 02:09:00 - [24]
 

i just realised that it wouldnt be possible for me to sell 3 of my chars due to a forumban!

is this something that could be changed? maybe let us post in char bazaar even though we have say a trollban because of some fun postingpvp in c&p or whatever?

L Mollie
Posted - 2010.02.01 17:44:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: L Mollie on 01/02/2010 17:45:28

Sorry, posted in wrong thread.

Embarassed


42BelowVodka
Posted - 2010.02.07 22:51:00 - [26]
 

how does a character trade work?

Green Orb
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2010.02.11 01:09:00 - [27]
 

What's up with this and the $20 feeEvil or Very Mad

"When transferring a character the original account’s remaining time is not able to be transferred to any other account. After the character transfer the original account’s reoccurring payments will remain unaffected and is not cancelled unless you manually do so in Account Management."

The fee should be more like $5 or free and time from one account should be able to be transferred as well. We pay enough as it is so I don't see why CCP has to be so greedy. All of these bull sh*t rules and fees allmost make me wana quit playing and just dumping all my accounts, then u get no money. Come on CCP, why be so tight and insist on having your hands in both of our pockets.

CCP GM's, I want to start a poll in the forums somewhere to see how many people agree with me. Where can I do this?

POll:
1. Leave fees and rules as it is
2. Lower transfer fee to $5 and the ability to cancel an account and transfer remaining time to another account.

Fa1lcak3s
Posted - 2010.02.11 15:01:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Fa1lcak3s on 11/02/2010 15:01:35
lets say i sent isk to a char to buy it ... and he said 24hours ... cause of roles ... i found a better toon before the toon was transfered (several hours) is the owner of the first toon obligated to refund the isk if i request ?

vile56
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2010.02.16 01:08:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Fa1lcak3s
Edited by: Fa1lcak3s on 11/02/2010 15:01:35
lets say i sent isk to a char to buy it ... and he said 24hours ... cause of roles ... i found a better toon before the toon was transfered (several hours) is the owner of the first toon obligated to refund the isk if i request ?


say you do not have a open slot and request money back

Kirtur Muhaha
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.02.16 02:59:00 - [30]
 

Is it possible to trade one character for another? i.e.- If I have a Gallente specced character with 25mil sp, can I trade it for an Amarr Specced character with 25mil sp? Or is isk the only thing I can get for it?


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