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Paul X365
Caldari
O-M-C
Posted - 2009.09.03 01:17:00 - [181]
 

If you guys haven't already included a column for the reprocessing value is there a way for you to allow us to import a column of data that will sync up on name or unit id.

Even simpler how about letting us save/export out the manually entered price data and re-import it - that would allow the use of a separate tool or ss to create the repro value.

Flaming Candle
Posted - 2009.09.03 06:36:00 - [182]
 

Originally by: Paul X365
If you guys haven't already included a column for the reprocessing value is there a way for you to allow us to import a column of data that will sync up on name or unit id.

Even simpler how about letting us save/export out the manually entered price data and re-import it - that would allow the use of a separate tool or ss to create the repro value.
Reprocessing value should be in the next release.

Paul X365
Caldari
O-M-C
Posted - 2009.09.03 06:49:00 - [183]
 

Originally by: Flaming Candle
Reprocessing value should be in the next release.


Thats great news.

We will be able to set the mineral costs used in the reprocessing value ourselves?

Any idea of a time frame for the next release?, I have a couple of jobs to do that I keep putting off in the hope of a new version, if were talking weeks ill go ahead and get them done.

Thanks for a great program.

Golden Gnu
Gallente
The Golden Gnu Corp
Posted - 2009.09.03 08:50:00 - [184]
 

Originally by: Paul X365
We will be able to set the mineral costs used in the reprocessing value ourselves?

Yes and no...

It use the same way to get price as the price column:
1. User set price
2. Default eve-central price (can be set to: buy, sell, all - avg, med, max, min)
3. Zero

The problem is that you can't manually set price for items you don't have as a asset.
So, if you don't have any mineral assets, you can't set the price manually. I pretty sure this will not be made possible in 1.1.0, but, I'll add it to the todo list for 1.2.0

Originally by: Paul X365
Any idea of a time frame for the next release?, I have a couple of jobs to do that I keep putting off in the hope of a new version, if were talking weeks ill go ahead and get them done.

We are pretty close to the first beta release of 1.1.0 (within a week or so), but how long it will take to fix bugs to get it stable, I don't know - for obvious reasons...

Originally by: Paul X365
Thanks for a great program.

Happy user is, simply, with out a doubt, the best thing in the world! Very Happy

Golden Gnu
Gallente
The Golden Gnu Corp
Posted - 2009.09.05 13:28:00 - [185]
 

1.1.0 BETA 1 (Apocrypha 1.5)
-The default eve-central price can now be changed
-Added new filter modes: Greater/Less then column (compare two columns)
-API keys can now be changed after they have been added
-Filtering is now only triggered when no keys have been pressed for 500ms
-Now automatically mark blueprints that have been used as copy/original
-All settings are now in the same dialog
-Improved the way progress is showed when updating assets and price data
-New dialog key bindings: Escape cancel and enter saves
-Industry jobs: Now adds blueprints in use to the asset list
-Market orders: now adds remaining items from sell orders to the assets list
-Portable setting: save all files in program directory (see FAQ)
-New Column: Reprocessed value
-New Column: System security status
-Added volume to statusbar and table popup menu

Known issues:
-Updating to from Release Candidate 7a or earlier will remove all your settings

Vhiskey
Caldari
Imperial Forces
Posted - 2009.09.05 13:45:00 - [186]
 

BPC value = BPO value?

Golden Gnu
Gallente
The Golden Gnu Corp
Posted - 2009.09.05 15:37:00 - [187]
 

Originally by: Vhiskey
BPC value = BPO value?

???

Paul X365
Caldari
O-M-C
Posted - 2009.09.05 18:09:00 - [188]
 

Edited by: Paul X365 on 05/09/2009 18:39:10
Edited by: Paul X365 on 05/09/2009 18:23:16
Nice work.

Bugs
When i first started it from a fresh folder it still retained my api and loaded about 15 assets from somewhere - some were correct some not and some showed the wording "error"

After downloading assets data seems ok so far.

When moving a column, other adjusted column widths are reset.
*update: "adjusted column widths" are also reset when "price to use" setting is changed as well as on jEveAssets being closed and reopend.

Window position plus width and height are also lost on closing and reopening of jEveAssets.

"only filter when enter is pressed" should probably be on by default.

Should rigs already fitted to a ship be counted as an asset? Maybe a switch?
On one hand its good to see where they are and what ship has what fitted but they are not recoverably and should not count towards any totals.



Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
Posted - 2009.09.05 21:36:00 - [189]
 

Originally by: Paul X365
Should rigs already fitted to a ship be counted as an asset?


Yes, definitely.


Quote:
On one hand its good to see where they are and what ship has what fitted but they are not recoverably and should not count towards any totals.


Its irrelevant that rigs are not recoverable.

Rigs add value to a ship. A rigged ship will sell for more than an unrigged ship.

Besides, you can assign whatever value you want to a fitted rig in jEveAssets.

Paul X365
Caldari
O-M-C
Posted - 2009.09.06 06:55:00 - [190]
 

Just some thoughts.

I wouldnt mind a couple of extra price columns, configureable of course!!! IE:

I would like a column that i can select a specific station or solar system like Jita, Amar or Rens I would also like to be able to say what i want to see in the column so max buy order or median sell order.

Maybe this could be done by allowing me to specify the actual api call used for an extra column under an advanced menu?

Golden Gnu
Gallente
The Golden Gnu Corp
Posted - 2009.09.06 10:19:00 - [191]
 

Thank you for you bug reports... Smile

Originally by: Paul X365
Bugs
When i first started it from a fresh folder it still retained my api and loaded about 15 assets from somewhere - some were correct some not and some showed the wording "error"

This is worrying... Did you backup your settings before running the beta? if you did, could you please send them to me - my email is in the readme.txt file.

@all
Did anyone else encounter this?

Originally by: Paul X365
When moving a column, other adjusted column widths are reset.
*update: "adjusted column widths" are also reset when "price to use" setting is changed as well as on jEveAssets being closed and reopend.

What column setting do you have? (The button on the upper right corner of the table)
It is default behaver - if not "Disable columns auto resizing"

Originally by: Paul X365
Window position plus width and height are also lost on closing and reopening of jEveAssets.

It's not really a bug - but rather a feature request. AKA can not be done before 1.1.0

Originally by: Paul X365
"only filter when enter is pressed" should probably be on by default.

I'll consider that...

Originally by: Paul X365
Should rigs already fitted to a ship be counted as an asset? Maybe a switch?
On one hand its good to see where they are and what ship has what fitted but they are not recoverably and should not count towards any totals.

I have to agree with Varo Jan on this...

Originally by: Paul X365
Just some thoughts.

I wouldnt mind a couple of extra price columns, configureable of course!!! IE:

I would like a column that i can select a specific station or solar system like Jita, Amar or Rens I would also like to be able to say what i want to see in the column so max buy order or median sell order.

Maybe this could be done by allowing me to specify the actual api call used for an extra column under an advanced menu?

It's only possible to get price data from regions, not solar systems or stations...
This would require the price data to be updated more then once (almost doubling the time it take to update assets). It have been requested before. Sadly it will not be done.

Vhiskey
Caldari
Imperial Forces
Posted - 2009.09.06 10:29:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: Golden Gnu
Originally by: Vhiskey
BPC value = BPO value?

???


jeveasset gives my BPCs the value of BPOs. thats why i dont use this prog.

Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
Posted - 2009.09.06 12:07:00 - [193]
 

Originally by: Vhiskey
Originally by: Golden Gnu
Originally by: Vhiskey
BPC value = BPO value?

???


jeveasset gives my BPCs the value of BPOs. thats why i dont use this prog.


No program can read your mind.

You can manually set the value of a BPC. Besides, perceived value of a BPC or a researched BPO will vary from player to player.

Flaming Candle
Posted - 2009.09.06 16:17:00 - [194]
 

Originally by: Vhiskey
Originally by: Golden Gnu
Originally by: Vhiskey
BPC value = BPO value?

???


jeveasset gives my BPCs the value of BPOs. thats why i dont use this prog.

There is *no* way to tell BPOs from BPCs via the assets API. The only possible way is to use the S&I API request to get the current jobs, then comparing the itemIDs from the assets to the itemIDs that are obtained from the S&I API call. So, if you have a BPO in production we can tell that it is a BPO and not a BPC.

I guess we can make it an option to display any blueprint as a BPC and have no value until you set one, or you put it into a S&I job and the BPC/BPO type is defined.

Golden Gnu
Gallente
The Golden Gnu Corp
Posted - 2009.09.06 19:04:00 - [195]
 

Originally by: Flaming Candle
Originally by: Vhiskey
Originally by: Golden Gnu
Originally by: Vhiskey
BPC value = BPO value?

???


jeveasset gives my BPCs the value of BPOs. thats why i dont use this prog.

There is *no* way to tell BPOs from BPCs via the assets API. The only possible way is to use the S&I API request to get the current jobs, then comparing the itemIDs from the assets to the itemIDs that are obtained from the S&I API call. So, if you have a BPO in production we can tell that it is a BPO and not a BPC.

I guess we can make it an option to display any blueprint as a BPC and have no value until you set one, or you put it into a S&I job and the BPC/BPO type is defined.

All Blueprints that are not automarked (only available in 1.1.0 Beta 1), will be marked as BPC AKA have no value, as default

Luckytania
Gallente
Bullets of Justice
Posted - 2009.09.06 20:46:00 - [196]
 

Started taking a look at 1.1 beta today. (Used 1.0 for a while, but going to the beta seems to make it impossible to flip back and forth for comparison.)

Requests/ideas.

1) Retain window position/size on restart.
2) Put a label 'somewhere up top' for the filter you have loaded. Show "untitled", or whatever, for a modified unsaved set of filters.

Minor bug reports.
1) Seems to sometimes 'get lost' when clicking a column to flip the ascending/descending sort. Requires an exit/restart and then its OK again.
2) Doesn't seem to do too well with estimated values of Sell Orders. It's reporting mine at half of ingame "Orders" tab. (Might well not be addressable due to API lackage.)

Overall, an impressive job. Thanks. Looking forward to 1.1 Stable.

Golden Gnu
Gallente
The Golden Gnu Corp
Posted - 2009.09.10 14:59:00 - [197]
 

@Luckytania
Thank you for your feedback! Very Happy


Requests:
1 & 2) Added to the todo list for 1.2.0

Bugs:
1) This could be a side effect of a known bug (It might be fixed for 1.1.0 beta 2)
2) The price data is from Eve-Central. You might want to change your eve-central settings in:
Options > Settings > Eve-Central
You can set the regions to your own region, for a more accurate result.
You could also download and use Eve-centrals Upload Utility, to ensure the price data is perfect...

Going back and forth between versions:
Your settings are saved in [user-directory]/.jeveassets
Backup the "data" directory to backup your settings...
If you backup the 1.0.0 settings you can always go back to them...

KaarBaak
Minmatar
Seatec Astronomy
Posted - 2009.09.10 15:57:00 - [198]
 

Edited by: KaarBaak on 10/09/2009 15:58:54
Hi

I'm within 5min of my first download of your program. Installed and loaded api with no problems. Great info and layout so far as I've nosed around. One minor question (keeping in mind my noob status, please)...would it be possible to add the current GMT to the bar at the bottom that tells when the next price update can occur? I realize that it's max 60min, but when I initially loaded the program, it automatically downloaded prices. I attempted to change the pricing filters, but was informed that they wouldn't take effect until 1644GMT.

Anyway, just an extremely small thing. I haven't read through all the pages in this thread yet to see what has been suggetsted previously. But, like I said it appears to have nearly anything I may be looking for (and the export to CSV allows for anything else.)

Thanks again. Great work.

KB

EDIT: Also, does the reprocessing value assume perfect reprocessing (100% return)

Golden Gnu
Gallente
The Golden Gnu Corp
Posted - 2009.09.10 16:46:00 - [199]
 

@KaarBaak
I'm happy that you like jEveAssets. Your suggestion have been added to the todo list...

Yes, it assumes perfect reprocessing

Kellen Tavadon
Caldari
KellenCo
Posted - 2009.09.10 23:53:00 - [200]
 

Edited by: Kellen Tavadon on 10/09/2009 23:57:18
I'm having a problem with this sadly and it's that it doesn't work...I'm on Vista and curious if it's compatible?

Quite literally when I double click the main file it just asks what I should run it in?

Edit: I actually can get it to work but I have to do the Linux way but through Windows Promt; is there a way to make the program an executable?

Flaming Candle
Posted - 2009.09.11 06:49:00 - [201]
 

Originally by: Kellen Tavadon
Edited by: Kellen Tavadon on 10/09/2009 23:57:18
I'm having a problem with this sadly and it's that it doesn't work...I'm on Vista and curious if it's compatible?

Quite literally when I double click the main file it just asks what I should run it in?

Edit: I actually can get it to work but I have to do the Linux way but through Windows Promt; is there a way to make the program an executable?
It may be that you don't have the .jar extension associated with java. As you discovered, running, on the command line, from your install directory:

"java -jar jeveassets.jar" or "javaw -jar jeveassets.jar"

will launch the application. You should be able to right-click the jeveassets.jar and select the option "open with" which should allow you to find the java executable - if you have the choice, select a "javaw" option rather then the "java" option since the java option will probably open a console which isn't exactly pretty!

When you installed Java 6, it should have done these file associations itself.

Golden Gnu
Gallente
The Golden Gnu Corp
Posted - 2009.09.11 07:26:00 - [202]
 

@Kellen Tavadon
I would suggest that you uninstall Java (It might be present more than once, please uninstall all reference of Java) and reinstall Java...

Note that on vista, you'll need administrator rights to install Java

DataSchmuck
Amarr
Posted - 2009.09.12 04:45:00 - [203]
 

Great little program for the casual player such as myself. Quick and simple. Love it.

Here's a few interface suggestions I feel would make it even better:
1: column customization - currently we can only drag the column size to a smaller, limited size. It would be great if you could do a right click on the column header and click "hide", or "customize columns..." and put check boxes next to the ones we want (like Microsoft windows does it). The ability to move or re-order columns would be cool, too.

2: Row selection highlighting - when selecting an item in any column, lightly highlight or outline the entire row to make it easier to read and match up what we've selected. Either that or alternate the row colors (white and light grey?)

3: Save the layout - as has already been suggested, saving the window sizes and column lengths, but with the additional suggestions I've made, saving which columns are shown/hidden and the order that we've re-arranged them in, as well as which column is used for sorting items.

Thanks again for this nifty little program!

Flaming Candle
Posted - 2009.09.12 06:48:00 - [204]
 

Originally by: Data*******
Great little program for the casual player such as myself. Quick and simple. Love it.

Here's a few interface suggestions I feel would make it even better:
1: column customization - currently we can only drag the column size to a smaller, limited size. It would be great if you could do a right click on the column header and click "hide", or "customize columns..." and put check boxes next to the ones we want (like Microsoft windows does it). The ability to move or re-order columns would be cool, too.

added as a feature request on our issue tracker, we may or may not implement it the same as MS Excel!
Originally by: Data*******

2: Row selection highlighting - when selecting an item in any column, lightly highlight or outline the entire row to make it easier to read and match up what we've selected. Either that or alternate the row colors (white and light grey?)

Also added as a feature request.
Originally by: Data*******

3: Save the layout - as has already been suggested, saving the window sizes and column lengths, but with the additional suggestions I've made, saving which columns are shown/hidden and the order that we've re-arranged them in, as well as which column is used for sorting items.

Thanks again for this nifty little program!
This is already in the list of possible changes.


Golden Gnu
Gallente
The Golden Gnu Corp
Posted - 2009.09.12 08:58:00 - [205]
 

@Data*******
1) The ability to move columns is already implemented. Just drag the column header (press and move left or right).
The ability hide/show columns has also been implemented. Clicking on the little button on in the top right corner of the table (next to the column headers).

2 & 3) is on the todo list

Flaming Candle
Posted - 2009.09.12 09:47:00 - [206]
 

Originally by: Golden Gnu
@Data*******
1) The ability to move columns is already implemented. Just drag the column header (press and move left or right).
The ability hide/show columns has also been implemented. Clicking on the little button on in the top right corner of the table (next to the column headers).
Ok, so I sucked at finding that feature too, it's clearly too well hidden - We've decided to try to make it more obvious.

DataSchmuck
Amarr
Posted - 2009.09.12 20:53:00 - [207]
 

Edited by: Data******* on 12/09/2009 20:53:01
Oh my, I can't believe I missed that! OK, well, that just makes the program that much better.

Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
Posted - 2009.09.13 10:59:00 - [208]
 

Would it be possible to split the "update assets" button ?
To:
- Update assets
- Update market orders
?

You can update the assets once a day, the orders, you can update once a hour.

Golden Gnu
Gallente
The Golden Gnu Corp
Posted - 2009.09.13 14:10:00 - [209]
 

Edited by: Golden Gnu on 13/09/2009 14:18:53

@Lost Hamster
You can already update price data by them self - the idea is that when you update assets, new items might be present (especially on first update), so we need to get the price data as well. That's why both the assets and market data is updated at the same time. So in my opinion it needs to stay as it is...

EDIT:
Wow I totally missread that, sorry Laughing
Market orders are updated at startup (If the cache time allow it)... so are the character data and industry jobs...
This will be changed later...

Golden Gnu
Gallente
The Golden Gnu Corp
Posted - 2009.09.21 13:24:00 - [210]
 

Edited by: Golden Gnu on 21/09/2009 13:24:42

1.1.0 Release Candidate 1 (Apocrypha 1.5):
-Fixed bug with invalid proxy settings
-Fixed bug with pos and industry jobs
-Added hide/show columns to the main menu
-Fixed bug in save filter dialog
-Better error messages when Updating assets
-New layout for about dialog

Known Issues
-Updating to from Release Candidate 7a or earlier will remove all your settings

Please backup your settings before running the release candidate.
You'll not be able to revert back to 1.0.0, with the settings from this release.


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