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BlackDragonShadow
Caldari
Posted - 2009.06.19 19:43:00 - [1]
 

Do you think that we should try to stem the tide of global warming on our own by seeding the sky with dust to make it cooler or trying to refreeze or put down layers of reflective white plastic in the arctic? Or do you think that would just lead to more global harm?

Luna Sistere
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.06.19 19:48:00 - [2]
 

In before HAARP conspiracy theories.

Izzy Lizzy
Gallente
Alien Gnome Bandits
Posted - 2009.06.19 21:10:00 - [3]
 

Global Warming Primer

Should help answer your question. Wink

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.06.19 21:19:00 - [4]
 

Nuke the whales!

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2009.06.19 21:25:00 - [5]
 

Manipulating magnetic fields to change the weather is fun ugh


Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.06.19 21:26:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Vogue
Manipulating magnetic fields to change the weather is fun ugh




Especially if it involves nuking whales Very Happy

Joseph 9
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.06.19 21:34:00 - [7]
 

I never did like the Welsh to be honest, with their rolling hills and their Rugby.

Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
Posted - 2009.06.19 21:44:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Joseph 9
I never did like the Welsh to be honest, with their rolling hills and their Rugby.


Don't forget the likeable Male Voice Choirs!

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2009.06.19 21:52:00 - [9]
 

As nice as it sounds, it would ruin the diversity of the earth if we could all choose to live in lovely weather. Plus I think having good weather would make the british more cheerful, and we can't have that.

Luna Sistere
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.06.19 21:58:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: TimMc
As nice as it sounds, it would ruin the diversity of the earth if we could all choose to live in lovely weather. Plus I think having good weather would make the british more cheerful, and we can't have that.


Well there are actually many other factors if we had nonstop nice weather. Lack of rain for plants to grow, lack of snow in the mountains to maintain rivers leading to widespread extinction of many species of fish....

Every reaction stemming from Earth itself leads into a chain of reactions.

Mr Reeth
Posted - 2009.06.19 22:02:00 - [11]
 

People still believe in global warming? Oh wait... the Earth isn't warming so they call it "climate change" now. Get with the times.

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2009.06.19 22:02:00 - [12]
 

It might be rubbish but there is a theory that goes like this: The colder water from the north pole could stop the gulf stream. The gulf stream from mid America gives western Europe far warmer weather. UK is on the same lattitude as Siberia. If the cold water, because of global warming melting the polar caps, stops the Gulf Steam western Europe could be plunged into a new ice age.

So a'la Battlefield 2142.

I for one would welcome polar bears in the West Midlands ugh

Shirley Serious
Amarr
The Khanid Sisters of Athra
Posted - 2009.06.20 06:17:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Intense Thinker
Nuke the whales!


don't we need to farm the whales instead? to make whale oil to run SUVs on?

The Wintersmith
Posted - 2009.06.20 17:36:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Vogue
It might be rubbish but there is a theory that goes like this: The colder water from the north pole could stop the gulf stream. The gulf stream from mid America gives western Europe far warmer weather. UK is on the same lattitude as Siberia. If the cold water, because of global warming melting the polar caps, stops the Gulf Steam western Europe could be plunged into a new ice age.

So a'la Battlefield 2142.

I for one would welcome polar bears in the West Midlands ugh


Already moose-proofing my car Laughing

Luna Sistere
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.06.20 18:15:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: The Wintersmith


Already moose-proofing my car Laughing


Got plans on driving a APC?

Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.20 22:08:00 - [16]
 

messing with the weather too much seems risky. those afternoon microburst T-Storms happen for a reason as do Hurricanes, both are ment as massive energy releases that the atmo needs to remain stable.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2009.06.20 22:42:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Grimpak on 20/06/2009 22:43:21
I just want a bit more cool weather.


working outside in the scorching sun at 38șC in a 10am-7pm schedule is pants in this weatherSad


**** sakes, a freakin' summer thunderstorm would be great even.

but nooooo, we get this blue sky and more blue sky with spots of blue sky in the sky.

Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.20 22:48:00 - [18]
 

New Jersey, man ****ty state but we do get a cooling rain every day.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2009.06.20 22:54:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
New Jersey, man ****ty state but we do get a cooling rain every day.
I oh so want to switch Portugal for thatSad

Aya Otosaki
Assero Argentum
Posted - 2009.06.21 11:38:00 - [20]
 

pffft, we cant do jack ****, let alone control the weather. all the cool stuff scientists say we can do or can possibly do is hyped up bull**** to beg for money.

Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
Ammatar Free Corps
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.21 12:59:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Shirley Serious
Originally by: Intense Thinker
Nuke the whales!


don't we need to farm the whales instead? to make whale oil to run SUVs on?


Well, you gotta nuke something.

Draeca
Tharri and Co.
Posted - 2009.06.21 13:55:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Mr Reeth
People still believe in global warming? Oh wait... the Earth isn't warming so they call it "climate change" now. Get with the times.

You're welcome to get over here and check out finland during the winter.
We used to have snow and all, but those were the good old times and now they're gone.

Altair Alhammajid
Minmatar
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2009.06.21 14:06:00 - [23]
 

As an environmental scientist, there is something to the idea of increasing the earth's albieto. For those of you wondering what that is, it's the earth's ability to reflect sunlight back into space. Unfortunately this is a temporary fix that will only slow down the process, not cure it. For those who think the globe is not warming, you are so wrong. The numbers are there and they are pretty solid. Alot of environments will see a very slow change, but there are some areas that are seeing significant changes, i.e. Alaska. And to the person who brought up the disruption of the ocean currents, there is no concrete proof that the thermohaline current will be disrupted, but with energy changes in the ocean, this could potentially disrupt that cycle because it requires the exchange of energy to keep moving. Oh, to live in northeastern europe if that were to happen would be the coldest winter you have seen. It is because of this current that milder temperatures reach that far north. What we really need to focus on is channeling carbon back into the earth that was originally stored up in coal or oil. Also, an increase in forest growth would be very beneficial to this as well. Remember, the earth breathes as well. If you look at the numbers for CO2 concentration in the atmosphere fluctuates throughout the year, and this is because of our forests. It's like one giant organism, you take out one element and the system will collapse. Imagine removing the lungs from a human, are they going to survive? No. We need to restructure industry so that it takes in the cost of services nature supplies for us. I'm sorry, but cap and trade is not going to solve that. Well, I could go all day on this but I'm going to stop. If anyone has any specific question, let me know and I will try to answer them as quickly as I can.

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2009.06.21 14:20:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Altair Alhammajid
As an environmental scientist, there is something to the idea of increasing the earth's albieto. For those of you wondering what that is, it's the earth's ability to reflect sunlight back into space. Unfortunately this is a temporary fix that will only slow down the process, not cure it. For those who think the globe is not warming, you are so wrong. The numbers are there and they are pretty solid. Alot of environments will see a very slow change, but there are some areas that are seeing significant changes, i.e. Alaska. And to the person who brought up the disruption of the ocean currents, there is no concrete proof that the thermohaline current will be disrupted, but with energy changes in the ocean, this could potentially disrupt that cycle because it requires the exchange of energy to keep moving. Oh, to live in northeastern europe if that were to happen would be the coldest winter you have seen. It is because of this current that milder temperatures reach that far north. What we really need to focus on is channeling carbon back into the earth that was originally stored up in coal or oil. Also, an increase in forest growth would be very beneficial to this as well. Remember, the earth breathes as well. If you look at the numbers for CO2 concentration in the atmosphere fluctuates throughout the year, and this is because of our forests. It's like one giant organism, you take out one element and the system will collapse. Imagine removing the lungs from a human, are they going to survive? No. We need to restructure industry so that it takes in the cost of services nature supplies for us. I'm sorry, but cap and trade is not going to solve that. Well, I could go all day on this but I'm going to stop. If anyone has any specific question, let me know and I will try to answer them as quickly as I can.


break it down into a few major points, about a sentence each. and use some paragraphs Very Happy

and well
a) so what if the earth warms a few degrees
b) how do we know that a bit more CO2 in the air did change that
c) the CO2 released by humans was once in the atmosphere anyways, we just happen to be moving it around a bit.

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2009.06.21 16:38:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Altair Alhammajid
As an environmental scientist, there is something to the idea of increasing the earth's albieto. For those of you wondering what that is, it's the earth's ability to reflect sunlight back into space. Unfortunately this is a temporary fix that will only slow down the process, not cure it. For those who think the globe is not warming, you are so wrong. The numbers are there and they are pretty solid. Alot of environments will see a very slow change, but there are some areas that are seeing significant changes, i.e. Alaska. And to the person who brought up the disruption of the ocean currents, there is no concrete proof that the thermohaline current will be disrupted, but with energy changes in the ocean, this could potentially disrupt that cycle because it requires the exchange of energy to keep moving. Oh, to live in northeastern europe if that were to happen would be the coldest winter you have seen. It is because of this current that milder temperatures reach that far north. What we really need to focus on is channeling carbon back into the earth that was originally stored up in coal or oil. Also, an increase in forest growth would be very beneficial to this as well. Remember, the earth breathes as well. If you look at the numbers for CO2 concentration in the atmosphere fluctuates throughout the year, and this is because of our forests. It's like one giant organism, you take out one element and the system will collapse. Imagine removing the lungs from a human, are they going to survive? No. We need to restructure industry so that it takes in the cost of services nature supplies for us. I'm sorry, but cap and trade is not going to solve that. Well, I could go all day on this but I'm going to stop. If anyone has any specific question, let me know and I will try to answer them as quickly as I can.


break it down into a few major points, about a sentence each. and use some paragraphs Very Happy

and well
a) so what if the earth warms a few degrees
b) how do we know that a bit more CO2 in the air did change that
c) the CO2 released by humans was once in the atmosphere anyways, we just happen to be moving it around a bit.


earth was hotter back in the time of the dino, but then again, earth has been getting warmer since the last ice age.


what I want to know however, if it's really true that global warming can trigger an ice age tho.

Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
Posted - 2009.06.21 16:41:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Xen Gin on 21/06/2009 16:41:55
Edited by: Xen Gin on 21/06/2009 16:41:34
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Altair Alhammajid
As an environmental scientist, there is something to the idea of increasing the earth's albieto. For those of you wondering what that is, it's the earth's ability to reflect sunlight back into space. Unfortunately this is a temporary fix that will only slow down the process, not cure it. For those who think the globe is not warming, you are so wrong. The numbers are there and they are pretty solid. Alot of environments will see a very slow change, but there are some areas that are seeing significant changes, i.e. Alaska. And to the person who brought up the disruption of the ocean currents, there is no concrete proof that the thermohaline current will be disrupted, but with energy changes in the ocean, this could potentially disrupt that cycle because it requires the exchange of energy to keep moving. Oh, to live in northeastern europe if that were to happen would be the coldest winter you have seen. It is because of this current that milder temperatures reach that far north. What we really need to focus on is channeling carbon back into the earth that was originally stored up in coal or oil. Also, an increase in forest growth would be very beneficial to this as well. Remember, the earth breathes as well. If you look at the numbers for CO2 concentration in the atmosphere fluctuates throughout the year, and this is because of our forests. It's like one giant organism, you take out one element and the system will collapse. Imagine removing the lungs from a human, are they going to survive? No. We need to restructure industry so that it takes in the cost of services nature supplies for us. I'm sorry, but cap and trade is not going to solve that. Well, I could go all day on this but I'm going to stop. If anyone has any specific question, let me know and I will try to answer them as quickly as I can.


break it down into a few major points, about a sentence each. and use some paragraphs Very Happy

and well
a) so what if the earth warms a few degrees
b) how do we know that a bit more CO2 in the air did change that
c) the CO2 released by humans was once in the atmosphere anyways, we just happen to be moving it around a bit.


earth was hotter back in the time of the dino, but then again, earth has been getting warmer since the last ice age.


what I want to know however, if it's really true that global warming can trigger an ice age tho.


Nvmd.

Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.21 17:23:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Aya Otosaki
pffft, we cant do jack ****, let alone control the weather. all the cool stuff scientists say we can do or can possibly do is hyped up bull**** to beg for money.

id rather have seen trillions goto science and space then instead atleast here in the US we gave it to AIG which gave us no progressive benefits!

Luna Sistere
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.06.21 18:37:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Altair Alhammajid
As an environmental scientist, there is something to the idea of increasing the earth's albieto. For those of you wondering what that is, it's the earth's ability to reflect sunlight back into space. Unfortunately this is a temporary fix that will only slow down the process, not cure it. For those who think the globe is not warming, you are so wrong. The numbers are there and they are pretty solid. A lot of environments will see a very slow change, but there are some areas that are seeing significant changes, i.e. Alaska. And to the person who brought up the disruption of the ocean currents, there is no concrete proof that the thermohaline current will be disrupted, but with energy changes in the ocean, this could potentially disrupt that cycle because it requires the exchange of energy to keep moving. Oh, to live in northeastern europe if that were to happen would be the coldest winter you have seen. It is because of this current that milder temperatures reach that far north. What we really need to focus on is channeling carbon back into the earth that was originally stored up in coal or oil. Also, an increase in forest growth would be very beneficial to this as well. Remember, the earth breathes as well. If you look at the numbers for CO2 concentration in the atmosphere fluctuates throughout the year, and this is because of our forests. It's like one giant organism, you take out one element and the system will collapse. Imagine removing the lungs from a human, are they going to survive? No. We need to restructure industry so that it takes in the cost of services nature supplies for us. I'm sorry, but cap and trade is not going to solve that. Well, I could go all day on this but I'm going to stop. If anyone has any specific question, let me know and I will try to answer them as quickly as I can.


As an environmental scientist you need to learn paragraph structuring.

Xevria
Posted - 2009.06.21 19:41:00 - [29]
 

yeah, saw some interesting program on that few weeks ago featuring some american "scientists". theye had this theory that once we stop using fossile fuells and a decade or 2, earth will then be able to slowly rebalance the climate, but that we needed a fix now. So theye came up with this bright idear of placing small lenses(about the size of a flashlight) in orbit that'll difuse some of the sunlight away, thus cooling the planet. The idear was to shoot them into orbit using a big cannon(what is it with americans looking for a sollution using either nukes, big bombs or big guns? I mean, seriously, wtf!)

anyway, lenses in orbit, earth would then cool down till climate has managed to fix itself. made me really wonder though, after climate fixes itself, HOW DO THEYE PLAN ON GETTING THOSE FRIKKIN LENSES OUT OF ORBIT AGAIN before theye trigger an ice age.

BlackDragonShadow
Caldari
Posted - 2009.06.21 20:18:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Xevria
yeah, saw some interesting program on that few weeks ago featuring some american "scientists". theye had this theory that once we stop using fossile fuells and a decade or 2, earth will then be able to slowly rebalance the climate, but that we needed a fix now. So theye came up with this bright idear of placing small lenses(about the size of a flashlight) in orbit that'll difuse some of the sunlight away, thus cooling the planet. The idear was to shoot them into orbit using a big cannon(what is it with americans looking for a sollution using either nukes, big bombs or big guns? I mean, seriously, wtf!)

anyway, lenses in orbit, earth would then cool down till climate has managed to fix itself. made me really wonder though, after climate fixes itself, HOW DO THEYE PLAN ON GETTING THOSE FRIKKIN LENSES OUT OF ORBIT AGAIN before theye trigger an ice age.


Because American's have found that most problems can be talked through. And when that doesn't work a healthy amount of violence will suffice.


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