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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:24:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Zeba on 19/06/2009 04:25:56



Downloading music you didn't pay for? RIAA has The Man on his side now with this precedent making case. An $80,000 fine for each song she downloaded so I'm betting that tard from metallica is a happy bastage now.ugh

Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:29:00 - [2]
 

That's painfully funny

Moral of the story, do not buy off big labels Laughing

Wonder how much the judge was paid off?. What the hell is the point of getting sued that much, they will never be able to pay it.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:32:00 - [3]
 

For the precedent. Next on the list will be some high profile target with tens of thousands of illegal songs and the poor git probably doesn't even know he is in the crosshairs.

Atomos Darksun
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:32:00 - [4]
 

Uhhh.

So in what justice system is being fined 80,000 times the amount lost "fair?" Shocked

Luna Sistere
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:36:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Zeba
I'm betting that tard from metallica is a happy bastage now.ugh


I regret to having liked them in my younger days. They have turned into the biggest, whiniest sellouts in the history of music.
Though their cd's do make great clay pigeons.

And yes, the fee is outrageous.

Brea Lafail
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:38:00 - [6]
 

Idiot jury and corrupt judge. God bless the lobby groups.

Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:40:00 - [7]
 

The shame is its entirely ineffective at what they are trying to accomplish, and wrongfully punative for the woman who has become a victim of outdated corprate intrest.

Bestofworst
Gallente
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:46:00 - [8]
 

I'm gonna work as an assistant in a doctors office one day, and when a little kid takes more than one piece of candy I'm gonna shoot him in the leg, this is what this story is saying to me. How the hell is she gonna pay that?

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:53:00 - [9]
 

****ing hell that is insane

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.06.19 05:01:00 - [10]
 

I laughed my arse off when I first saw these years ago when lars was all emo in the media about Napster thinking 'nah will never happen' if there is even one jury member with a clue.

WTS clue. Sad

Napster Bad!

Napster Bad! -Metallicops

Napster Bad! Metallica Millionaire

Krystal Vernet
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.06.19 05:13:00 - [11]
 

That's a bit ... excessive.

And it's ample evidence that corporations are destroying society. \o/

EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr
Posted - 2009.06.19 05:13:00 - [12]
 

I wish the same court would jail murderers for 500 years.

Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2009.06.19 05:21:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Zeba
I laughed my arse off when I first saw these years ago when lars was all emo in the media about Napster thinking 'nah will never happen' if there is even one jury member with a clue.

WTS clue. Sad

Napster Bad!

Napster Bad! -Metallicops

Napster Bad! Metallica Millionaire


That's sad but true

/me runs off gigling

Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Emminent Terraforming
O.G.-Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.19 05:32:00 - [14]
 

i bet they wont see a penny, no person would ever pay that off. course if they are smart they have sold all their property to other family members and decombined the bank accounts so the RIAA has nothing to get cash from.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.06.19 05:43:00 - [15]
 

Oh I don't see the fine amount holding through the inevitable appeal but thats not what the RIAA was after. Headlines are what they want and now the next case will get tossed up and probably finished well before the first one can even think about getting to an appeals court to reduce the fine to something reasonable. This will be something to follow though just to see how far RIAA can push it.

Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
Posted - 2009.06.19 07:13:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
i bet they wont see a penny, no person would ever pay that off. course if they are smart they have sold all their property to other family members and decombined the bank accounts so the RIAA has nothing to get cash from.
It doesn't matter because the woman is still incuring among other costs, the cost of her defense. Which, no doubt is far and away a heftier price then the 24 songs she downed.

This may end up not being so good for the RIAA because it highlights the flaws of the current laws (I'm a poet!). Really the case should be in criminal court if she borke the laws, or in small claims court considering the amounts involved.

Knopje
Posted - 2009.06.19 08:03:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Uhhh.

So in what justice system is being fined 80,000 times the amount lost "fair?" Shocked


In an extreme fascist oligarchy in which the government serves the interest of big corporations only.

dr doooo
Posted - 2009.06.19 09:17:00 - [18]
 



Did she do something stupid like admit she did it to the RIAA at some point?



Vajak
Caldari
Posted - 2009.06.19 09:28:00 - [19]
 

The US "justice system" is just completely ****ed up in favor of big corporations.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.06.19 09:37:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Edited by: Zeba on 19/06/2009 04:25:56



Downloading music you didn't pay for? RIAA has The Man on his side now with this precedent making case. An $80,000 fine for each song she downloaded so I'm betting that tard from metallica is a happy bastage now.ugh


I wonder what percentage of that $2.9 mill would go to the artists (assuming that the defendant had that much to even pay)?

Would anyone care to speculate that it would be more than $000,000.00?

Next up: why people who download music are bad because then there is no incentive for artists to create music, but why music corporations who rip off artists with blatently dishonest contracts and fraudulent accounting are good because they keep the artists hungry and keen.

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2009.06.19 09:39:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: dr doooo


Did she do something stupid like admit she did it to the RIAA at some point?





It's a woman, of course she caved. I demand to be tried as my peers, not by precedence gotten through intimidation of women.

ceaon
Posted - 2009.06.19 10:03:00 - [22]
 

ouch she got more that TPB

Crying or Very sad

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2009.06.19 10:07:00 - [23]
 

RIAA are such a loathesome bunch. When are they going to finally realise they are not relevent any more and just crawl into a hole and die? Evil or Very Mad

Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
Posted - 2009.06.19 10:12:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Jin Nib on 19/06/2009 10:12:39
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
RIAA are such a loathesome bunch. When are they going to finally realise they are not relevent any more and just crawl into a hole and die? Evil or Very Mad
When they cant afford to pay the bills anymore.

Edit-forums swallowed my post.

Ratchman
Posted - 2009.06.19 10:27:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Ratchman on 19/06/2009 10:27:53
The trouble with such draconian punishments is that it may inadvertantly kill legitimate purchases. People not au fait with the technology will just abstain from it completely, fearful that anything like this new-fangled iTunes may leave them owing millions.

There are also other considerations. Say iTunes get embroiled in a copyright issue with certain bands. People would then start to worry that music they have downloaded and paid for would become regarded as pirated music, and again land them owing millions. The average person doesn't know much about the law, so they will simply refuse to use any online provider.

Physical media sales would be affected to a much lesser degree, but there will still be people who will be put off buying music just in case. It might not be rational, but there will be a percentage of people who will think this way.

The trouble with such astronomical sums is that it is counter-productive. Over-reactions always inspire hysteria and hatred, and this will be no exception. Either people will buy less music all round, or piracy will grow to a point where it cannot be stopped. Imagine, if you will, a record company trying to sue a whole country. If enough people do something, it cannot be stopped, no matter how illegal it is. Either of these scenarios will cost the music industry far more.

The correct procedure would have simply to take the woman to the small claims court, and claimed the cost of the music, plus a small fine. This kind of offence should be of the level of a speeding ticket. It should only ever be escalated if there is evidence of mass-production going on (which would bring it into the fraud arena). Industry always loses a percentage of profits to piracy, counterfeiting and plain stealing, but most industries accept this and carry on. Yes, they will prosecute if they catch someone, but they accept that they will lose a specific percentage.

Fining someone so much for so few songs is like catching someone speeding, taking all their money and property, banning the offender from driving for life and crushing their car.

Crime needs to be punished, but perhaps someone should look at that line in the constitution that says 'cruel and unusual'.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.06.19 10:52:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Blane Xero on 19/06/2009 10:53:19
Jesus ****ing Christ At Tesco's. I think this would be appropriate use of my Collective Facepalm demotivator tbh.

Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2009.06.19 11:44:00 - [27]
 

In honesty, I can't see why people even bother illegally downloading anyway. Music downloads are pennies these days.

Admittedly $1.9 million is ridiculously excessive. Even $80,000 for the entire issue would have been excessive.

The RIAA really need to get *****slapped for ridiculously overzealous fines.

Bestofworst
Gallente
Posted - 2009.06.19 11:58:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Reven Cordelle
In honesty, I can't see why people even bother illegally downloading anyway. Music downloads are pennies these days.

Admittedly $1.9 million is ridiculously excessive. Even $80,000 for the entire issue would have been excessive.

The RIAA really need to get *****slapped for ridiculously overzealous fines.
3.99$ for a gallon of gas never really seemed like much until I figured out how many gallons it took to fill a tank Smile

ceaon
Posted - 2009.06.19 12:37:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Ratchman
Edited by: Ratchman on 19/06/2009 10:27:53
Imagine, if you will, a record company trying to sue a whole country. If enough people do something, it cannot be stopped, no matter how illegal it is. Either of these scenarios will cost the music industry far more.



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Brea Lafail
Posted - 2009.06.19 14:33:00 - [30]
 

I find it surprising that Canada is #10 considering our courts have all but refused to say whether p2p sharing is actually illegal under our laws.


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