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Luna Sistere
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.06.19 00:11:00 - [1]
 

This is how the UK treats its animals?

Who leaves a 4 yo alone with a 1 week old puppy? The tard was 'walking' the pup around the garden when it shouldn't even be handled at that age but instead being watched by its mother. And then he flushes it down the toilet and yet they get to keep it? I foresee a very short lifespan for this animal at this rate.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.06.19 02:57:00 - [2]
 

Unless the animals can start arguing for their own rights, they're there to be owned and used by their owners however they see fit.
Don't like how somebody is treating an animal, don't sell one to them in the first place.
Once they bought it, it's theirs to do whatever they want to do with it... pet it, kick it, flush it down the toilet, throw off a bridge or make a barbecue out of it.
It only begins to be your problem again when the way they USE their property damages you in any way (a badly educated dog ripping your clothes, an escaped snake biting you, whatever).

Luna Sistere
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.06.19 03:14:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Unless the animals can start arguing for their own rights, they're there to be owned and used by their owners however they see fit.
Don't like how somebody is treating an animal, don't sell one to them in the first place.
Once they bought it, it's theirs to do whatever they want to do with it... pet it, kick it, flush it down the toilet, throw off a bridge or make a barbecue out of it.
It only begins to be your problem again when the way they USE their property damages you in any way (a badly educated dog ripping your clothes, an escaped snake biting you, whatever).




I see you are well accustomed to acceptance of negligence. Its a pity you are not as well versed in the voice people have given voiceless animals to deter such actions as a mother who allows her baby to handle a dog who can not even so much as see, nor walk, and leave the child to its own devices.

Of course had it been someone in their teens up I'm sure the story would be portrayed in a different light.

Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:01:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Unless the animals can start arguing for their own rights, they're there to be owned and used by their owners however they see fit.



Omg, that statment is funny beyond belief, awesome troll there.

People can speak a myriad of languages yet fail to treat animals with any respect because we are too arrogant to belive they may be sentient.

You trolliness amuses me Very Happy

Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:02:00 - [5]
 

when I was a child we had these two cats, one was a large black cat which I left alone for some reason, the other one I used to try and hoover it up, I used to try and wash it in the bath in boiling water which usually left it clinging for dear life on the ceiling, tried to flush it down the toiled which usually left it clinging for dear life onto my face, and tried to throw it in the fire which resulted in pretty much the same.

cat was very good at surviving tho, lived to be 16! not sure what the moral of this story is except maybe that kids like torturing animals and maybe its the parents fault rabble rabble rabble

Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:05:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Gneeznow
when I was a child we had these two cats, one was a large black cat which I left alone for some reason, the other one I used to try and hoover it up, I used to try and wash it in the bath in boiling water which usually left it clinging for dear life on the ceiling, tried to flush it down the toiled which usually left it clinging for dear life onto my face, and tried to throw it in the fire which resulted in pretty much the same.

cat was very good at surviving tho, lived to be 16! not sure what the moral of this story is except maybe that kids like torturing animals and maybe its the parents fault rabble rabble rabble


Yah, deffinately the parents fault, it cannot be ignored.

Did you grow up on a farm perchance?

Brea Lafail
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:11:00 - [7]
 

I'm told the empathy bit of the brain is one of the last to develop, but 4 is a bit old to be flushing random stuff down the toilet. Also, small children should not be allowed to handle young pups. Srsly. I hope that family owned the mother, not just bought the pup from a store 'cause it was cute.

Luna Sistere
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.06.19 04:30:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Brea Lafail
I'm told the empathy bit of the brain is one of the last to develop, but 4 is a bit old to be flushing random stuff down the toilet. Also, small children should not be allowed to handle young pups. Srsly. I hope that family owned the mother, not just bought the pup from a store 'cause it was cute.


They better have the mother or the pup is dead. When most people have litters they usually can not let them go for at least 6 weeks minimum. And here we are talking about a 1 week old pup. It can't walk, it can't eat on its own, its eyes aren't even developed yet. And here they are manhandling it like a Paris Hilton purse pooch.

That is what gets to me the most I think. The puppy should be alone with the mother, away from the little nuisance. Now it is ok for the little nuisance to see the pups and naturally they are curious about newborns, as long as a parent is present. And at 1 week the pup should not be handled, and should definitely not be left alone with a 4 yo toddler.

As for the story about the cats, well yes, I wasn't so kind to my animals at times as a kid either, BUT, they weren't defenseless little meatsacks either, rather more of a fully functioning self thinking animal capable of puncturing my body a 1000 times over. The scars on my hands bear proof of that testimony. But one thing I remember was to leave the newborns alone because if the momma dog didn't bite me, my parents would.

Krystal Vernet
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.06.19 05:20:00 - [9]
 

Local animal control or someone should've confiscated the puppy and checked on where the others were to ensure those are being better taken care of.

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2009.06.19 07:06:00 - [10]
 

The best animal mistreatment thread I think I have ever read

although when animals are treated like the way the op said, don't they usually get taken away Shocked

KingsGambit
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.06.19 10:56:00 - [11]
 

Damn dude, the kid is 4 years old, lighten up. He doesn't know any different, but will never make that mistake again. They're not a family of animal abusers, it was a mistake only a child could make. Go join PETA or something with that kinda melodramatic attitude. Kids do crazy stuff, it happens, it will happen again. I have a lot more sympathy for that family than for those with opinions like yours. Evil or Very Mad

PS. I crashed my fathers car at age 4 (playing with handbrake) and got a tiny burn where I spilled boiling water on myself trying to make tea.

Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2009.06.19 11:32:00 - [12]
 

I call parental negligence, the dog was barely old enough to see, let alone be allowed out in the garden.

I personally think the "Garden" part was a lie, and that the kid just flushed the dog down the toilet for lulz. He looks like the kind.

Not even sure how they got a pup that young - usually respectable breeders won't let you have them until they're a month old.

Bestofworst
Gallente
Posted - 2009.06.19 12:02:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: KingsGambit
Damn dude, the kid is 4 years old, lighten up. He doesn't know any different, but will never make that mistake again. They're not a family of animal abusers, it was a mistake only a child could make. Go join PETA or something with that kinda melodramatic attitude. Kids do crazy stuff, it happens, it will happen again. I have a lot more sympathy for that family than for those with opinions like yours. Evil or Very Mad

PS. I crashed my fathers car at age 4 (playing with handbrake) and got a tiny burn where I spilled boiling water on myself trying to make tea.
And pregnant women.

Ratchman
Posted - 2009.06.19 12:04:00 - [14]
 

I have to say I'm with KingsGambit on this one. The kid did something dumb. They all do it. And as for parental supervision? Try being around a 4 year old kid all the time. I don't see animal cruelty, just a kid who needs to be told he's done wrong. The dog has suffered, but I don't think for a moment anyone actually intended for that to happen.

If you ever have kids, you will be guaranteed something dumb will be done by your kid, and you won't be there at the time, and it will leave other people questioning your fitness as a parent.

People should be forgiven their moments of stupidity, not persecuted for them. If you go for the latter, don't be too surprised when other people stick the knife in when it's your turn.

Luna Sistere
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.06.19 14:21:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Luna Sistere on 19/06/2009 16:45:51
Edited by: Luna Sistere on 19/06/2009 14:22:41
Originally by: KingsGambit
Damn dude, the kid is 4 years old, lighten up. He doesn't know any different, but will never make that mistake again. They're not a family of animal abusers, it was a mistake only a child could make. Go join PETA or something with that kinda melodramatic attitude. Kids do crazy stuff, it happens, it will happen again. I have a lot more sympathy for that family than for those with opinions like yours. Evil or Very Mad

PS. I crashed my fathers car at age 4 (playing with handbrake) and got a tiny burn where I spilled boiling water on myself trying to make tea.


And you are absolutely right. He is 4 yo and doesn't know any better. Too bad you can't read worth a **** or else you'd see that I'm putting this on that fat ass brit mother who should have been watching her kid while around the puppy instead of letting it do whatever it wanted as she sits on the couch watching big brother or something.

I have a niece and nephew that age and I babysit them regularly, I know how they act and I know that when they are either very quiet or near the bathroom region you should probably go see what they are doing. In my case though my dogs love the hell out of them now after the peanut butter incident.

And I can't join PETA. I'm sorry but if a fly or some other bug touches me I'm killing it without a moments thought. I also do not believe in murdering animals outright without giving them a chance in life (see Knut)1

Edit: 1; Before a troll points out the hypocrisy of that paragraph I should point out that there is a difference, at least in my little world, between an arthropod and a mammal.

Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.06.19 14:30:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Luna Sistere
This is how the UK treats its animals?

Who leaves a 4 yo alone with a 1 week old puppy? The tard was 'walking' the pup around the garden when it shouldn't even be handled at that age but instead being watched by its mother. And then he flushes it down the toilet and yet they get to keep it? I foresee a very short lifespan for this animal at this rate.




Koreans eat dogs.

I think it's the only meat North Koreans can afford.



Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.06.19 18:20:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Brolly
Originally by: Akita T
Unless the animals can start arguing for their own rights, they're there to be owned and used by their owners however they see fit.

Omg, that statment is funny beyond belief, awesome troll there.
People can speak a myriad of languages yet fail to treat animals with any respect because we are too arrogant to belive they may be sentient.
You trolliness amuses me Very Happy

How about this for an encore : children under the age of 3 should have the same legal rights as animals should have, namely, none.
Twisted Evil

baltec1
Posted - 2009.06.19 18:25:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Akita T

How about this for an encore : Chavs should have the same legal rights as animals should have, namely, none.
Twisted Evil



I corrected your statement and made it better.

Krystal Vernet
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.06.19 18:41:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Akita T

How about this for an encore : children under the age of 3 should have the same legal rights as animals should have, namely, none.
Twisted Evil


Isn't that pretty much in effect anyways?

Pello Mei
Posted - 2009.06.19 19:50:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Luna Sistere
This is how the UK treats its animals?



My first thought when I read this line was "go **** yourself", like one person, family etc defines a whole country. That's like looking at an obese American and saying that they are all fat bastards other there.

Accidents happen, people make mistakes and we learn by them. They screwed up and I doubt they will be so careless again after their ordeal.

Luna Sistere
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.06.19 20:09:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Pello Mei

Accidents happen, people make mistakes and we learn by them. They screwed up and I doubt they will be so careless again after their ordeal.


Knocking over a lamp is an accident. Adding too many zero's in a buy order is an accident. Falling off a bicycle and hurting yourself is an accident.

Allowing a toddler to run free with a 1 week old pup without parental supervision is gross negligence. And what if the puppy hadn't survived down there, maybe drowned or hurt too badly by the camera trying to move it, would you still be claiming **** happens then?

Let me ask you this. When you have a newborn do you just go around passing it off to others who don't know any better?

Also I do recall certain kick treatment of a kitten a while back by some ginger chav and oh how everyone was in shock by that. Funny how the story changes. And as I've said, its not the child I'm looking at, its the mother.

I don't expect to get through that 1600mm chav skull plating though.

Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
Posted - 2009.06.19 20:23:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Luna Sistere
Originally by: Pello Mei

Accidents happen, people make mistakes and we learn by them. They screwed up and I doubt they will be so careless again after their ordeal.


Knocking over a lamp is an accident. Adding too many zero's in a buy order is an accident. Falling off a bicycle and hurting yourself is an accident.

Allowing a toddler to run free with a 1 week old pup without parental supervision is gross negligence. And what if the puppy hadn't survived down there, maybe drowned or hurt too badly by the camera trying to move it, would you still be claiming **** happens then?

Let me ask you this. When you have a newborn do you just go around passing it off to others who don't know any better?

Also I do recall certain kick treatment of a kitten a while back by some ginger chav and oh how everyone was in shock by that. Funny how the story changes. And as I've said, its not the child I'm looking at, its the mother.

I don't expect to get through that 1600mm chav skull plating though.
I lol'ed. 7/10

Kamihami
Posted - 2009.06.20 00:49:00 - [23]
 

Quote:
Once they bought it, it's theirs to do whatever they want to do with it... pet it, kick it, flush it down the toilet, throw off a bridge or make a barbecue out of it.


sure, they could do all that...
don't think they'd want to be caught by the RSPCA and go to court over it though:

Quote:
Offenders can be fined, sent to prison, have their animals taken away, and disqualified from keeping pets in the future.

The maximum penalty is imprisonment for up to 51 weeks, or a fine of up to 20,000, or both.


(though yes, in this particular case it seems to have been an accident with the owners doing all they could to rescue the puppy. I'd agree that children make mistakes at that kind of age...but I'd also agree the parents should've been more conscious of that...)

Thorliaron
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.06.20 02:21:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Thorliaron on 20/06/2009 02:21:35
Originally by: Luna Sistere
Originally by: Pello Mei

Accidents happen, people make mistakes and we learn by them. They screwed up and I doubt they will be so careless again after their ordeal.


Knocking over a lamp is an accident. Adding too many zero's in a buy order is an accident. Falling off a bicycle and hurting yourself is an accident.

Allowing a toddler to run free with a 1 week old pup without parental supervision is gross negligence. And what if the puppy hadn't survived down there, maybe drowned or hurt too badly by the camera trying to move it, would you still be claiming **** happens then?

Let me ask you this. When you have a newborn do you just go around passing it off to others who don't know any better?

Also I do recall certain kick treatment of a kitten a while back by some ginger chav and oh how everyone was in shock by that. Funny how the story changes. And as I've said, its not the child I'm looking at, its the mother.

I don't expect to get through that 1600mm chav skull plating though.


what are you, the morality police? stop tolling like those idoit animal rights people.

Jago Kain
Amarr
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2009.06.20 03:45:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
The best animal mistreatment thread I think I have ever read

although when animals are treated like the way the op said, don't they usually get taken away Shocked


Great link.

They really ought to make it an olympic sport; I'd pay to see this.


 

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