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Havohej
Minmatar
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
Posted - 2009.06.19 14:47:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Cordele


KenZoku was originally set up by Reikoku for their own alt corps, not independent renters or pets.


That's pretty much what I said... official alt/pet alliance.

Originally by: Cordele
According to them the name is supposed to mean "Tribal", which I guess was a reference to the old BoB logo.


lol "according to them" Sorry bro, Kenny doesn't get to decide what words do or don't mean... they mean what they mean. Laughing

Cordele
Gallente
Gemini Technologies
Fortis Malleus
Posted - 2009.06.19 15:07:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Havohej
That's pretty much what I said... official alt/pet alliance.


Alts are not the same thing as pets, which if you look closely at the thread was the same point they were responding to.

Originally by: Havohej
lol "according to them" Sorry bro, Kenny doesn't get to decide what words do or don't mean... they mean what they mean.


Indeed, however your argument was that they intended it to mean "pet", which they clearly didn't.

Agmar
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.06.19 15:12:00 - [63]
 

History is written by the victors, and I'm glad you like writing more than I do. lololololol

o/

Havohej
Minmatar
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
Posted - 2009.06.19 15:36:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Cordele
Indeed, however your argument was that they intended it to mean "pet", which they clearly didn't.


Nope, my argument was that the word means "dependants" - "pets". Your argument was that "they didn't mean it that way." Wink

The Mittani
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.19 15:45:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Agmar
History is written by the victors, and I'm glad you like writing more than I do. lololololol

o/


sup man fly safe~~~~~~~~

The Mittani
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.19 15:46:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Cordele

The person who created the alliance seems like a pretty reliable source on this subject, unless you're implying he had some reason to lie about it


dianabolic?

look guys that sabre bpo was completely legit and no one knew he was a dev i swear I SWEAR and look its ok to talk to your friends on MSN why is everyone mad at us :(

Kilostream
Caldari
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.19 16:03:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Kublaii Khanid
....for your inevitable response playing semantics, how does "foundation of economy" mean "entirety of economy"

holy **** man its not that difficult


Not difficult, but it doesn't suit his argument so shhhhhh.


Cordele
Gallente
Gemini Technologies
Fortis Malleus
Posted - 2009.06.19 16:23:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Havohej
Originally by: Cordele
Indeed, however your argument was that they intended it to mean "pet", which they clearly didn't.


Nope, my argument was that the word means "dependants" - "pets". Your argument was that "they didn't mean it that way." Wink

Originally by: Havohej
KenZoku MEANS 'pet'; it was obviously the 'official' alt/pet alliance as evidenced by the anime (is cartoons) name


You thought they deliberately chose a name meaning dependents to signify an official pet alliance. They didn't, and it wasn't.

Originally by: The Mittani
dianabolic?

look guys that sabre bpo was completely legit and no one knew he was a dev i swear I SWEAR and look its ok to talk to your friends on MSN why is everyone mad at us :(


Yes, he's never told the truth in his life, things which he has no conceivable reason to lie about included.

You deserve a lot of credit for what you and your alliance have achieved over the past few years, but you're beginning to show signs of ressentiment. You got what you wanted, you can let go of the paranoid hatred.

Technically Harmless
Caldari
ICE is Coming to EVE
Tau Ceti Federation
Posted - 2009.06.19 16:41:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Cordele

A few of the facts are wrong. KenZoku was never a pet, and Delve doesn't have the highest income potential of any region. At the time of the invasion, it was equal third with Esoteria, behind Deklein and Fountain.

The market has changed since then and Delve is now equal second, but Fountain is still by far the most lucrative region for moon income.

Also, the article claims that several titans were confirmed to have been destroyed in the CSAAs, whilst in fact what was actually destroyed is disputed.

There are several other claims dubiously asserted as facts, but they're either debatable or unverifiable.


Coming from the Great Null-Sec Space-Holding alliance you're part of, I am sure that Mittens feels severly chastised.

On a side note Deklein's worthless, that's why we frenchies (I'm sorry "Freedom Fries") are there.

You forgot to mention that all coalition forces are made up of worthless newbs and no-life's who can't possibly compete with the incredible Uber PvP e-peen of people like you.

Kenny and Barbie really kicked our worthless rear-ends, didn't they.

Keep on feeling relevant honey-buns Wink

marxist revolutionary
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.19 17:26:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Cordele

KenZoku was originally set up by Reikoku for their own alt corps, not independent renters or pets. According to them the name is supposed to mean "Tribal", which I guess was a reference to the old BoB logo.



oh wow dianabolic posts from right after the disbanding

i see that your citation selection is as reliable as your analysis of the value of regions~



why you spergin out about something as minor as kenzoku being an alt corp and not a renter

The Mittani
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.19 17:42:00 - [71]
 

i like to make dianabolic jokes vOv

Agmar
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.06.19 18:16:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
sup man fly safe~~~~~~~~
sup? Hit me up if you need sumthn else to read on da Orange Line yo...

SMB's TheJoker
Gallente
Seven.
Posted - 2009.06.20 14:05:00 - [73]
 

Heard alot about certain bob forum dumps being loaded on-line for all to see. Couldn't find any link though. Lotsa reference though. Anyone got a linky? thx

Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
draketrain
Posted - 2009.06.20 19:06:00 - [74]
 

Quote:
'cept when I went to Delve, where we got 5 in the same system in the space of 3 weeks


<3 Delve

I wonder if it gets fixed now when bob doesn't hold it anymore

Stevens
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.06.21 00:22:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn
<3 Delve

I wonder if it gets fixed now when bob doesn't hold it anymore


I'd bet on it.

Itzena
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.21 13:03:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: SMB's TheJoker
Heard alot about certain bob forum dumps being loaded on-line for all to see. Couldn't find any link though. Lotsa reference though. Anyone got a linky? thx

Go to the forums that CCP doesn't like people talking about (because they banned the owner for sparking the whole t20 thing).

SMB's TheJoker
Gallente
Seven.
Posted - 2009.06.21 15:13:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Itzena
Originally by: SMB's TheJoker
Heard alot about certain bob forum dumps being loaded on-line for all to see. Couldn't find any link though. Lotsa reference though. Anyone got a linky? thx

Go to the forums that CCP doesn't like people talking about (because they banned the owner for sparking the whole t20 thing).


Right, that guy (wink wink) - thx m8

Iron Jaw
Caldari
The Wild Bunch
Electus Matari
Posted - 2009.06.21 18:15:00 - [78]
 

Good Read Mittani, part one was a nice trip down memory lane.

i laughed at this bit too "In July 2006 (amidst various other wars) BoB invaded Syndicate. For two weeks they camped a corporation of 500 newbies from an internet comedy forum into the stations of S-U8A4. Boring easily, BoB declared victory and left"

Slightly more complicated than that, but still funny :)

SMB's TheJoker
Gallente
Seven.
Posted - 2009.06.21 19:26:00 - [79]
 

Roflol - just finished reading the bob forum dumps. I never thought it possible but it seems my respect or lack of it sank even lower for those over sized macho's.

Mittani - I may not like goons but I love your style. I dont believe in the truth neather. To quote someone: truth is in the eye of the beholder, everyone has their version of it.

I just hope goons dont become the new bob/kenny

Lunas Feelgood
Gallente
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.21 19:57:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: SMB's TheJoker
Roflol - just finished reading the bob forum dumps. I never thought it possible but it seems my respect or lack of it sank even lower for those over sized macho's.

Mittani - I may not like goons but I love your style. I dont believe in the truth neather. To quote someone: truth is in the eye of the beholder, everyone has their version of it.

I just hope goons dont become the new bob/kenny


here is a fact about the core leadership of bob.. They never were any good only problem they were to stupide to realise it and its one of the reason they lost so badly instead of finding out how they could do better they just blamed it on some1 els. may it be pets allies. hostile lag "naptrain" etc they allways had an excuse instead of blaming it on there own incompetence..

Bob never wanted a good fight they wanted to win. that was the essence of bob.. Take FA alliance how did bob beat those back in the day? they had to get a spie to offline there towers etc.. The list goes and on every little dirty metagamign trick they could come up with they used.

Also the hole "Naptrain" was actually started by BOB.. G was starting to become to good and trust was building them supercapitals. Bob knew they woulnt have a chance in hell going 1v1 with G so they pulled the hole south ASCN 5 etc you name it they were all there..That little insident change things an the era of huge powerblocks was created..

Lucky for us we got Goons that saw true all there bull**** using tech 1 frigs and showed EVE what a paper tiger bob really was.

Lets be frank the last year there pets was more orginised and "skilled" then bob. basically when they didnt have a spi listen in on the other guys TS the bob FC was absolutly ****..

only good corp in bob was DICE but i really dont consider them bob rest was and allways will be absolutly incompetent

The Mittani
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.22 12:56:00 - [81]
 

i think that the publication of various full forum archives of bob and member corps will at last put to rest any illusions of their 'superiority' in eve

i've read a lot of forums, bob is the worst in terms of repressing dissent and refusing to accept criticism. they hired mostly pets as recruits, and their primary hiring criteria was a combination of sycophancy and kb stats, so even in the face of massive, obvious failure 90% of their posts amount to "molle knows best and this is wonderful!"

the few who don't sing hosannas get booted out of the alliance, a la yaay just the other day

by contrast, in goonfleet even the tiniest failure brings hordes of goons pointing and laughing at the fc, the directorate, or other goons, especially for a big obvious welp (don't warp a frig blob to a planet rather than a pos, guys) so everyone learns what not to do

anyway it's just a little pathetic reading their forums and it's full of 'evolution this' and 'darwin that' when they can't handle the criticism which would be needed to actually improve

Zumbala
Gallente
ICE is Coming to EVE
Not Found.
Posted - 2009.06.22 13:16:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
i think that the publication of various full forum archives of bob and member corps will at last put to rest any illusions of their 'superiority' in eve

i've read a lot of forums, bob is the worst in terms of repressing dissent and refusing to accept criticism. they hired mostly pets as recruits, and their primary hiring criteria was a combination of sycophancy and kb stats, so even in the face of massive, obvious failure 90% of their posts amount to "molle knows best and this is wonderful!"

the few who don't sing hosannas get booted out of the alliance, a la yaay just the other day

by contrast, in goonfleet even the tiniest failure brings hordes of goons pointing and laughing at the fc, the directorate, or other goons, especially for a big obvious welp (don't warp a frig blob to a planet rather than a pos, guys) so everyone learns what not to do

anyway it's just a little pathetic reading their forums and it's full of 'evolution this' and 'darwin that' when they can't handle the criticism which would be needed to actually improve

They cannot evolve. The whole BoB idea is based on being an elit. These guys truly beleive they are the best. So of course, they were never, and never will, be able to improve since in order to do that, they would have to understand their own mistakes. On their forum, they spend their time avoiding this by looking for someone to blame for the failure, if possible outside of their alliance.
The whole concept is fail. They should rather disband for good, and try to build up something new, from my point of view.


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