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Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2009.06.17 15:06:00 - [1]
 

One of the many articles going on about this massive crack down on illegal downloads.

Looks like it's time to go back to the car boots and sunday markets Laughing

This should be a great time for indy and upcoming musicians on the internet, this could backfire in an epic manner.


Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2009.06.17 15:14:00 - [2]
 

Haha, "Digital Britain" indeed. Cheesy as hell.

No doubt the "illegal downloads" bracket will also cover legal downloads distributed by P2P networks - thus causing major issues and annoyance.

Don't fret though - we're using the goddamn internet, we find a way around everything.

mazzilliu
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.17 16:01:00 - [3]
 

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Posted - 2009.06.17 16:11:00 - [4]
 

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Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2009.06.17 16:26:00 - [5]
 

I think there should be a third film, after 'Escape From New York' and 'Escape From Los Angeles' - 'Escape From Birmingham'.

Brummie self deprecating humour ugh

Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.06.17 16:31:00 - [6]
 



CRAP!

So much for Pirates of the Caribbean IV.....

Crying or Very sad

dr doooo
Posted - 2009.06.17 16:43:00 - [7]
 

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Something Random
Gallente
The Barrow Boys
Posted - 2009.06.17 17:37:00 - [9]
 

The really pathetic thing in all this is half my music collection on CD has been bought as a direct result of random downloads through p2p software, and i cant be alone in this one.

All thats gonna happen is people arn't going to get to hear truly creative and original music anymore, except maybe the prison band. Theyre already making internet radio stations lives hell. Whole ****ing lot of em can crash their industry and die for all i care anymore.

Stopped downloading ages ago btw.

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2009.06.17 18:01:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Something Random
The really pathetic thing in all this is half my music collection on CD has been bought as a direct result of random downloads through p2p software, and i cant be alone in this one.


Pretty much same for me too. I probably will swap to radio or indie music if they start doing **** like this.

baltec1
Posted - 2009.06.17 18:08:00 - [11]
 

this will backfire like everything else this government has touchedNeutral

Brea Lafail
Posted - 2009.06.17 18:12:00 - [12]
 

I want to know how they'll know you're pirating stuff without closely monitoring all your net activity (which Im assuming is still illegal in that backwards nation of yours).

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.06.17 19:15:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Brea Lafail
I want to know how they'll know you're pirating stuff without closely monitoring all your net activity (which Im assuming is still illegal in that backwards nation of yours).


Think again.

Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
Posted - 2009.06.17 20:17:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Something Random
The really pathetic thing in all this is half my music collection on CD has been bought as a direct result of random downloads through p2p software, and i cant be alone in this one.

All thats gonna happen is people arn't going to get to hear truly creative and original music anymore, except maybe the prison band. Theyre already making internet radio stations lives hell. Whole ****ing lot of em can crash their industry and die for all i care anymore.

Same here.

Originally by: OP
One of the many articles going on about this massive crack down on illegal downloads.
Lady Gaga is really ugly.Neutral

Nuala Reece
Caldari
TROJAN LEGIONS
TROJAN.
Posted - 2009.06.17 21:19:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Brolly
massive crack down on illegal downloads.



Again? Does anyone else find themselves reminded of Bill Hicks' take of the US 'War on Drugs'? "It's like, they fight the war on drugs like the colonials fought the Indians, right? They're walking in a straight line and red coats; drug users are up in the trees, going, 'Are they fighting us? We're not even in that f*cking field. I guess we're winning by default. Ha ha! No combat; we're ahead!'"

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2009.06.17 21:30:00 - [16]
 

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/xav2075/mp3warning.jpg direct posted image changed to the link. Edo

Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
Posted - 2009.06.17 21:53:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Whitehound on 17/06/2009 21:54:34
Originally by: Abrazzar
Next you know, they decide to build a wall around the UK because it's easier than imprisoning every single criminal.Laughing

It is not funny. They have already put water around it.

Northern Fall
Minmatar
British Legion
Posted - 2009.06.17 22:04:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Whitehound
Edited by: Whitehound on 17/06/2009 21:54:34
Originally by: Abrazzar
Next you know, they decide to build a wall around the UK because it's easier than imprisoning every single criminal.Laughing

It is not funny. They have already put water around it.


You need a flippin' passport to get into France these days. Neutral

dr doooo
Posted - 2009.06.17 22:10:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: dr doooo on 17/06/2009 22:14:52
Edited by: dr doooo on 17/06/2009 22:10:24
Originally by: Brea Lafail
I want to know how they'll know you're pirating stuff without closely monitoring all your net activity (which Im assuming is still illegal in that backwards nation of yours).



Which ****y part of Europe are you from then??Laughing

But yes, UK Music are obviously taking the **** here. Their proposals don't have a hope in hell, because they want to bypass the law and be their won judge and jury. All good PR in the run up though I guess.

Edit: the stars above do not relate to excrement, they relate to an upperty sure of themselves male appendage. I'm glad I've straightened that out now.





Glarion Garnier
Thermal reaction
Posted - 2009.06.17 22:48:00 - [20]
 

Brittain is on the fast track of becoming germany during 1944 .. it's like the arse of 21st centure to put it lightly.
PPL should get a hold of their country or they shall be sorry for if they did nothing.

Northern Fall
Minmatar
British Legion
Posted - 2009.06.17 22:55:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Glarion Garnier
Brittain is on the fast track of becoming germany during 1944 .. it's like the arse of 21st centure to put it lightly.
PPL should get a hold of their country or they shall be sorry for if they did nothing.


Except someone who breaks into your house can sue you for damages if you hurt them in any way trying to defend your stuff.

Atomos Darksun
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.06.17 23:02:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 17/06/2009 23:02:05
A revolution would be great right about now.

Too bad the Brits are too lazy.

In addition to that, first you're going to need some guns -- oh wait.

Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
Posted - 2009.06.17 23:56:00 - [23]
 

There was talk of a coup in 1979 in the UK...

Knopje
Posted - 2009.06.18 02:21:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
They just need the pirates get labeled "Economic Terrorists", have the gov create a special unit with special rights to deal with this terrorist threat and then you'll have them crashing through your window and pluggin you a few times for good measure and dragging you off to a undisclosed location for 'interrogation and punitive measures' where you'll never return from alive due to 'death during interrogation'.Razz


I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. The UK is already, practically, treating its citizens as a threat to the nation, why else would they have more CCTV camera's than any other country? The UK is a fascist nation, it's just hiding its paranoia under the guise of terrorism.

ceaon
Posted - 2009.06.18 02:50:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Brolly
One of the many articles going on about this massive crack down on illegal downloads.

Looks like it's time to go back to the car boots and sunday markets Laughing

This should be a great time for indy and upcoming musicians on the internet, this could backfire in an epic manner.



i hope all British will start using freenet that should bring allot of lolz

KingsGambit
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.06.18 09:10:00 - [26]
 

Not the first such statement, won't be the last. File sharing technology is not in itself illegal and it's never going to go away, simple as that. Even if development stopped on new versions of existing programs, as long as the old version floats about for example, people can still use it.

PeerGuardian is a useful program to have installed as well. It behaves similar to a firewall and effectively hides the machine from select IP addresses. There are also P2P networks that I understand keep users anonymous, Freenet is one example.

The main benefits of pirating are obviously cost, but mostly convenience I think. Media industries need to better the convenience of P2P technology if they want to sell more. And as long as there's competition in the ISP industry, hopefully our connections won't all be capped/traffic managed/packet inspected, etc.

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2009.06.18 09:45:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Atomos Darksun
Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 17/06/2009 23:02:05
A revolution would be great right about now.

Too bad the Brits are too lazy.

In addition to that, first you're going to need some guns -- oh wait.


This is why I support guns in america, even thought they cause alot of crime.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.06.18 10:25:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Northern Fall
Originally by: Whitehound
Edited by: Whitehound on 17/06/2009 21:54:34
Originally by: Abrazzar
Next you know, they decide to build a wall around the UK because it's easier than imprisoning every single criminal.Laughing

It is not funny. They have already put water around it.


You need a flippin' passport to get into France these days. Neutral
You need a passport to get from Scotland to Wales. Think about that for a minute and cry yourself to sleep at night.

You can always try without a passport, but theres a chance you'll be stopped and wont be able to go until you get a passport; And because you were stopped its harder to get the passport...

mazzilliu
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.19 14:44:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: KingsGambit
Not the first such statement, won't be the last. File sharing technology is not in itself illegal and it's never going to go away, simple as that. Even if development stopped on new versions of existing programs, as long as the old version floats about for example, people can still use it.

PeerGuardian is a useful program to have installed as well. It behaves similar to a firewall and effectively hides the machine from select IP addresses. There are also P2P networks that I understand keep users anonymous, Freenet is one example.

The main benefits of pirating are obviously cost, but mostly convenience I think. Media industries need to better the convenience of P2P technology if they want to sell more. And as long as there's competition in the ISP industry, hopefully our connections won't all be capped/traffic managed/packet inspected, etc.


i do not trust peerguardian on the basis that there is nothing stopping media companies from simply getting a new ip address. the only way to safely download IMO is to set yourself up some sort of proxy or VPN in a country without ******ed laws and go through that. i wouldnt settle for anything less.


http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015543962

one of the only download lawsuits that went to court- RIAA is awarded 1.92 million dollars in damages because a computer linked to one woman shared 24 songs on kazaa. the family collectively bought hundreds of dollars in music legitimately and will probably never be able to pay off that debt.

i'm thinking i'm in the wrong business right now. i could be making millions of dollars off single mothers instead =]

Tallaran Kouros
Cryptonym Sleepers
Posted - 2009.06.19 15:45:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: KingsGambit

The main benefits of pirating are obviously cost, but mostly convenience I think. Media industries need to better the convenience of P2P technology if they want to sell more.


There is nothing wrong with the technology and there is no need to "better" it.

I like the technology and it works great, but media companies sell their products at a price point that in no way reflects the reality.

Now, take a traditional CD. Taking the time and cost of making the album aside, you need to pay for production, CD pressing, manufacturing, distribution - fair enough.

Online, the artist only has to make the album (same as before) but they do NOT need to pay any of the distribution costs. Why are these huge cost savings not passed onto me, the consumer? Somebody is pocketing the difference and it sure aint the artist.

Another thing that bugs me is that "You wouldn't steal a handbag" advert. Well no, you wouldn't. You wouldn't do it because the Theft Act defines theft as taking property without the owners consent with the intent to permanantly deprive them of it.

If I download an album, what physical, tangible item have I deprived someone of?

Nothing!

It's not theft and everybody knows it!

At best it's copyright infringement and that's a civil matter here in the UK, not a criminal one.

And come on, "you wouldn't steal a car"?

Obviously as it's a physical object, but if it was possible to download a Ferrari off BitTorrent then you can be damn sure I would :)


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