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Mjr Kusanagi
Gallente
Posted - 2009.08.29 15:55:00 - [181]
 

really like the way the drawer contains the characters, that's awesome!
but i like that you've also left the drop down menu available in the custom toolbar pane so that people can use that instead if they prefer
rest of the app looks great too! keep up the great work!!

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.08.30 06:24:00 - [182]
 

New release is out, barring any bugs or other brokenness I'm going to tidy up the skill planner a bit.

Originally by: Yasuuko
Awesome work!

The window does indeed remember where it was left (as well as the size!), and the character pane is great!

I noticed a few problems with the customizable toolbar though:
1. I need to restart the program to leave customizable mode
2. If i drag one item out (say... Skill planner) i can't put it back inside (so i just lost skill planning in my test version :P)



I can't replicate any of this, are you sure it still does it?

Originally by: Yasuuko

A few suggestions:
1 Add a hotkey to reload chars (or even the other panes as well)
2 Use the same system for toolbar customization as you see in safari
3 (again) When reload is pressed, all chars should be reloaded
4 Don't let the character pane be dragged, and allow it to move to the other side (with a button or just dragging it whole)

1 - Done
2 - I'm not sure what you mean
3 - Done. I hadn't forgotten about this, but it was a bit of effort to make it work due to (boneheaded) design issues.
4 - The character pane will open on the other side if there isn't enough room on the left.

Yasuuko
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.08.30 10:13:00 - [183]
 

Edited by: Yasuuko on 30/08/2009 10:23:55
Originally by: Flammard
New release is out, barring any bugs or other brokenness I'm going to tidy up the skill planner a bit.

Originally by: Yasuuko
Awesome work!

The window does indeed remember where it was left (as well as the size!), and the character pane is great!

I noticed a few problems with the customizable toolbar though:
1. I need to restart the program to leave customizable mode
2. If i drag one item out (say... Skill planner) i can't put it back inside (so i just lost skill planning in my test version :P)



I can't replicate any of this, are you sure it still does it?


I'm sure. just updated to 1.5 and does the exact same thing. And this time i have no buttons at all (just reload - and the hotkey works fine btw).

linkage


edit: deleting the preferences folder does not help :/

taiwaz
Posted - 2009.08.30 13:46:00 - [184]
 

Nice work so far, but i do in fact have some further Feature requests:


1. EveMon Skillplan Import

you already mentioned that this is coming, do you have a ETA for this

2. Battleclinic Loadout Browser

As far as the Loadout Browser is concerned, the nicest Feature EveMon has is the ability to Select a Loadout, and add the skills needed to fit said loadout to a skillplan

3. Skill Certificates

Being able to add all the skills for a Selected Certificate to Skill Plan

Zief
Posted - 2009.08.30 13:53:00 - [185]
 

Edited by: Zief on 30/08/2009 14:00:27
+1 adding the ships is a very nice touch, modules and the info for each will make this diamond in the rough truly shine. Total two thumbs up, keep up the fantastic work.

PS

MacMon

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
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Posted - 2009.08.31 00:51:00 - [186]
 

Edited by: Flammard on 31/08/2009 09:03:56
Yasuuko:
It looks like there is a bug in my app that manifests in Leopard, but it works fine in Snow Leopard. I'll have to look at it in more detail as I am not exactly sure what the problem is.

I've upgraded to snow leopard so testing this could be a bit tricky.

taiwaz:
All of these are on the to do list, but I don't have an ETA yet. Maybe in a week or two, but no promises. I need to fix a few bugs in release 15 first.
EDIT:
The battleclinic browser will take a little longer, I'll tackle that once I have the interface for the skill planner overhauled.

Zief:
Cheers for the feedback.

The Skill planner hasn't had much attention recently, I intend to work some more on that and make it easier to use and display more useful information such as ship and item info, as well as certificate info.

Dansel
Gallente
Telsa inc
Waterboard
Posted - 2009.08.31 06:58:00 - [187]
 

Suggestion:

One of the biggest drawbacks with this app is that it takes up so much screen space, so I usually end up having to close it every time.
But What if you enabled something like a minimized mode, where only the Character overview window would be shown. (And when you click at one of them you get this cool Zoooooom effect and then you see the normal window)
It's not really necessary but you have to agree, this app does take up some place, and it's somewhat frustrating when you dont have 2x 24" screens to deal with


Also, the drawer seems to suffer the graphical glitch that it wont update as the skill que

And if you que up mulitiple levels of the same skill, they will all show the same level but diffrent time.

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.08.31 08:49:00 - [188]
 

Edited by: Flammard on 31/08/2009 09:19:37
Originally by: Dansel
Suggestion:

One of the biggest drawbacks with this app is that it takes up so much screen space, so I usually end up having to close it every time.
But What if you enabled something like a minimized mode, where only the Character overview window would be shown. (And when you click at one of them you get this cool Zoooooom effect and then you see the normal window)
It's not really necessary but you have to agree, this app does take up some place, and it's somewhat frustrating when you dont have 2x 24" screens to deal with


Interesting idea, but it would take time to implement which I would rather spend on the skill planner for now. I'll keep this in the back of my mind when I revisit the character sheet.

Others have spoken to me with ideas for an interface redesign, but it would take a lot of effort for no or very little increase in functionality, which is sorely lacking in the skill planner. I'm going to focus my efforts on the planner for the next few weeks.

Originally by: Dansel

Also, the drawer seems to suffer the graphical glitch that it wont update as the skill que


Yes, I know. I don't intend to fix it soon.

Originally by: Dansel

And if you que up mulitiple levels of the same skill, they will all show the same level but diffrent time.

That was a bug I accidentally introduced when I was refactoring a lot of the skill cell code. It will be fixed soon.

Dansel
Gallente
Telsa inc
Waterboard
Posted - 2009.08.31 13:12:00 - [189]
 

Ohh and about the Skill information windows... IF it's possible, why not do it EVE style, if you hold shift you get a new window, otherwise it overwrites (and the other way around, should be editable
in settings)

Turan Nael
Posted - 2009.08.31 15:50:00 - [190]
 

Version 15.0 shows only the reload button, and shows only character sheet, even so database is updated.

Version 15.1 has same issues (only reload button and shows only character sheet, even so database is updated).

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:07:00 - [191]
 

Edited by: Flammard on 31/08/2009 23:14:11
If you are having issues with the program please tell me if you are running Leopard or Snow Leopard.


For those running leopard who have a broken toolbar, please try this version. Linkage


As Snow Leopard is a fairly cheap and painless upgrade, I don't intend to keep maintaining leopard support forever, but I will try and keep it working for a few months. I don't have the time nor reliable access to a leopard machine for development and testing.

Yuzzu Mushii
Gallente
Hysterically Unforgiving
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.08.31 23:53:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: Flammard

For those running leopard who have a broken toolbar, please try this version. Linkage
.


New program works fine. Toolbar displays properly \o/

Dansel
Gallente
Telsa inc
Waterboard
Posted - 2009.09.02 17:30:00 - [193]
 

Something i just realized, you cant rename your skill plans.

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.09.03 23:13:00 - [194]
 

I'm going to be redoing the skill planner. If anyone has any ideas for layout or presentation I'd like to hear them.

I'm going to address a few of the issues raised such as importing & exporting evemon plans, as well as renaming them. Making the columns configurable. certificates, checking training times with new implants / learning skills.

Who prefers the EveHQ style of plan layout? For example, instead of having skills listed like so:

Amarr Frigate I
Amarr Frigate II
Amarr Frigate III
Amarr Frigate IV

EveHQ instead gives you: (excuse the crappy formatting)
Skill | From| To | Time
Amarr Frigate | I | IV | Xd Yh Zm

Which for a long skill plan, can reduce clutter quite a bit.

Yuzzu Mushii
Gallente
Hysterically Unforgiving
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.09.04 09:35:00 - [195]
 

I prefer the current display

Amarr Frigate I
Amarr Frigate II
Amarr Frigate III
Amarr Frigate IV

I say this because i like to organize my skils in terms of time (train all skills that take 30m to train, then the 1h ones, etc.)

Maar'sha
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Posted - 2009.09.04 12:40:00 - [196]
 

For me the current layout is perfect but the reduced one could be on option in preferences.

Garlon Das
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2009.09.04 16:22:00 - [197]
 

Flammard,

The current display format works for me too.

As for suggestions, aside from all the usual ones you're working on, there is one thing... A while ago there was a meme floating around a few of the EVE blogs where pilots were posting the pie charts of their skills (here's one example). I know EVEMon has this feature, and I think EveHQ has it too. It's not an essential feature, more like eye candy, so feel to add it to the "yeah, maybe some day" list.

Thanks again for a great app - keep up the good work!

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.09.07 02:59:00 - [198]
 

Ok, looks like the EveHQ style isn't so popular.

This update might take me a little while. I've ran into some design issues that will take me some time to fix.

Pie chart is an interesting idea. I'll add that to my to do list.

Krispy Dingo
Minmatar
The Night Crew
Posted - 2009.09.08 21:07:00 - [199]
 

Trying to get through the thread to see what all people have recommended so far to try to limit repeats and say what i think would be the best possible additions, but I just wanted to say that you have written a very nice little app so far.

Will get back after I have had some more time to play with it.

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.09.10 11:22:00 - [200]
 

Edited by: Flammard on 10/09/2009 11:22:46
There's a bug in the current version which causes a crash on start up due to an XML parsing error (cos the API server is offline).

Download this version if you are using Snow Leopard:
http://www.mtyson.id.au/MacEveApi/MacEveApi.dmg

or this version if you are using Leopard:
http://www.mtyson.id.au/MacEveApi/MacEveApi-leopard.dmg

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.09.15 10:44:00 - [201]
 

Edited by: Flammard on 15/09/2009 12:28:37
Ok first of all, sorry for the lack of progress.

For the last week or so I have been refactoring a lot of the code to deal with character updates, as it had some problems. I've also been reorganising the source tree and cleaning up a few other problems.

In a couple of days (When the code is semi-stable again) I plan to release it as open source (GPL v3), so if anyone is interested in joining in on development then let me know.

Dansel
Gallente
Telsa inc
Waterboard
Posted - 2009.09.15 19:48:00 - [202]
 

Originally by: Flammard
Edited by: Flammard on 15/09/2009 12:28:37
Ok first of all, sorry for the lack of progress.

For the last week or so I have been refactoring a lot of the code to deal with character updates, as it had some problems. I've also been reorganising the source tree and cleaning up a few other problems.

In a couple of days (When the code is semi-stable again) I plan to release it as open source (GPL v3), so if anyone is interested in joining in on development then let me know.


awesome, great work dude!
My programming skills fail but i made an attempt on an icon, can publish it later on when i'm somewhat comfortable with it

Blackthorney
Posted - 2009.09.16 00:48:00 - [203]
 

Looks really nice. If I knew the first thing about Cocoa and Objective C, I'd be happy to help.

Rottenator
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2009.09.16 08:36:00 - [204]
 

Keep up the good work. Some things aren't as visible as new features, but still add a lot to the experience in the end.

Crassus Detlator
FW Scuad
E C L I P S E
Posted - 2009.09.16 20:51:00 - [205]
 

I just wanted to leave you a big thanks for this app and the free time you are spending in doing this for all the Mac community here.
Its a great app, and I think its going to be greater still.

Please, keep up the excellent work!
I'll download your code to mess with it, and see if I can understand something... :)

Thanks!!!

Flynn Fetladral
Royal Order of Security Specialists
Posted - 2009.09.17 12:00:00 - [206]
 

Yeah, continued thanks is in order Flammard. Thanks for all the effort you have put into providing a valuable tool for Mac users.

Psikon
Minmatar
Edge of Empire Material Processing
Posted - 2009.09.17 13:53:00 - [207]
 

Im still loving the app.. though i still have no Avatar.. any ideas?

Psikon

Strobist
Caldari
Posted - 2009.09.17 16:06:00 - [208]
 

Hi Flammard.

I'd like to support you with some programming and graphics skills, if you don't mind. Just drop an Ingame Message if you are interested.

Crassus Detlator
FW Scuad
E C L I P S E
Posted - 2009.09.17 18:22:00 - [209]
 

Hey Flammard,
Here's a little bug I thought it may be worth to add to a todo list:
- When there are several skills in queue, the calculations of the time for each skill are not contemplating the atributes and the learning skill.
(hence, something that is masked as to take 2 hours, takes you 1 hour effectively).

I'm using the Leopard 10.5 build, so maybe this issue is fixed on the 10.6 one...

Thanks for the amazing work!

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.09.18 00:51:00 - [210]
 

Edited by: Flammard on 18/09/2009 01:56:17
Psikon:
Is the portrait area grey? or do you get the exclamation mark?

If it's the exclamation mark then you will need to delete the old portrait and the app should auto download the new one. If you go to ~/Library/Application Support/MacEveApi/<accountid>/<characterid> and delete portrait.jpg

In a future version I'll add an option to re fetch the portrait.

Crassus Detlator:
It calculates queued learning skills correctly for me. Are you under 1.6 million SP? If so then that is probably what is causing the training times to be all wonky. My app doesn't know about the training speed boost.

EDIT: do you mean the skill planner or the training queue?

---

I hope to have the source code uploaded later today. Those of you wanting to play with it should have Snow Leopard and Xcode 3.2 You can build it on Leopard without too much fuss I think, but I won't make any efforts to maintain leopard compatibility from now on.


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