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Garlon Das
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2009.07.22 16:32:00 - [91]
 

Flammard,

First off, awesome app! You've taken on a huge task and are executing on it - well done.

I'm running into an issue - I've ensured that I have the latest version of the db downloaded, but don't see where to find the ships to add to a skill plan. I've cleared out the 'Library' file and reinstalled version 14.1, but no luck. Any ideas. (btw, new MacBook Pro, OS 10.5.7, no other issues).

And, for all the folks waiting for a proper icon, I tend to grab a planet icon from here to use as a place holder until a formal icon is released (I think I used Jupiter for Ceres). Just (1) download the folder of choice, open it and view 'as Icons', (2) 'get info' on the MacEveApi app, and (3) drag the desired new icon over the existing app icon at the top of the 'get info' pane. It's a temporary solution for those of us that hate seeing the plain app icon in the dock Very Happy

Keep up the great work!

Rottenator
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2009.07.22 19:33:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Garlon Das
First off, awesome app! You've taken on a huge task and are executing on it - well done.


I totally agree.

Originally by: Garlon Das

I'm running into an issue - I've ensured that I have the latest version of the db downloaded, but don't see where to find the ships to add to a skill plan. I've cleared out the 'Library' file and reinstalled version 14.1, but no luck. Any ideas. (btw, new MacBook Pro, OS 10.5.7, no other issues).



Go to the statusbar > EveMacApi > Check for New Database

After the new database has been downloaded and installed the app will restart to be able to work with it. Then you should see ships to add to skillplan.

Garlon Das
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2009.07.22 21:47:00 - [93]
 

Thanks Rottenator, I had done that previously, and I just tried it again, with no luck. Where does the database install (into which directory), and where should I see the ships in the UI?

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.07.23 05:04:00 - [94]
 

ZokFotPik:
Star Control 2 - awesome game :)

I could possibly add sorting options, the reason I haven't yet is because it's not simple to do because of prerequisite constraints. I may do this in the future though. I plan to slicken up the planner interface a bit in future releases.

Dragging skills around in groups works, as long as prerequisite constraints are satisfied.

Text / PDF export: I could do this some time in the future possibly. What do you want to do with the export? What data do you want included?

Custom notes for a skill is something I could add.

A ship and item info screen is something I plan to add, but I haven't gotten around to just yet.

Garlon Das:
In the skill planner there is a button in the top left corner that says "Skills", once the database is installed then a "Ship" button will appear.

The database lives in /Library/Application Support/MacEveApi/database.sqlite
That's under the system root directory, not the user home directory.

If the database installer says it was all done than it should have installed it correctly. There is quite a lot of verification that goes on when it installs the database, so it shouldn't ever install a broken database without displaying an error. If you want to reinstall, just delete the file and run the update check again.

ZokFotPik
Posted - 2009.07.23 07:45:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Flammard

Text / PDF export: I could do this some time in the future possibly. What do you want to do with the export? What data do you want included?


To be honest, I don't need this anymore. I used to export EveMon skill plan as text and clip it to Evernote (my external brain), also sync it to my iPhone. I didn't want to fire up my Parallels every time I just wanted to check my plan to update my in-game skill queue. But since I have a slick native OS X skill planner now, I don't need to do this anymore. Kudos!

ZFP

Denna Black
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.07.25 07:43:00 - [96]
 

Just wanted to say thank you. You've done an amazing job so far. Please keep up the good work!

Maria Kalista
Amarr
Knights of Kador
Posted - 2009.07.29 11:20:00 - [97]
 

Hey Flammard,

Updated your app today and now it's seems to be broke here. Sad

Upon launch no characters display nor can be pulled down from the drop down menu.
When I fiddle around in the preferences one character loads in the main window but the skill planner and character sheet are unaccessible. Drop down menu simply refuses to work.

Anything I can do to fix this?

Kilabie
Earth Inc
Posted - 2009.07.29 16:36:00 - [98]
 

Same problem here, after update to 14.2

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.07.29 23:46:00 - [99]
 

Hmm, bugger.

If you could zip up and send me your Library/Application Support/MacEveApi folder it would help me track down the problem. email bugs@mtyson.id.au

Also, the log file in Library/Logs/MacEveApi.log would be useful as well.

Otherwise, deleting the Library/Application Support/MacEveApi and re entering all your data should fix it, although it shouldn't be happening in the first place.

Qatsok
Caldari
Posted - 2009.07.30 03:11:00 - [100]
 

Sounds familiar... same problems here too

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.07.30 05:13:00 - [101]
 

I've put the 14.1 release back up, re download that version if you're having trouble.

I think it's something wrong with the new skill queue control, but I'll need to investigate further.

Psikon
Minmatar
Edge of Empire Material Processing
Posted - 2009.07.30 12:06:00 - [102]
 

wonderful application..look forward to seeing more..

only question is ..how do i get my avatar to appear on the character sheet?

Psikon

Binky Ruml
Posted - 2009.07.31 00:54:00 - [103]
 

Edited by: Binky Ruml on 31/07/2009 01:18:14
A couple of things I have spotted

- on the Character Sheet page the blue Training Queue time bar on occasion displays less than 24 hours of skills queued when it should be full

- on the Skill Planner page adding a Strategic Cruiser to a skill plan loads an incomplete set of skills. Only the Defensive and Electronic sub systems appear to be catered for.

Keep up the good work Smile

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.07.31 03:15:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: Flammard on 31/07/2009 03:24:10
Psikon:
The forum isn't showing your avatar, so that probably means your avatar isn't available yet, give it a few days and it should probably show up.

Binky Ruml:
Thanks, I'll look into that. The skill queue control needs a little more work.


For those people who were having crashes with the 14.2 version, could you please try this version: Linkage

I'd like to say thanks to those people who emailed me with their data, It made tracking down the problem a lot eaiser.

Kilabie
Earth Inc
Posted - 2009.07.31 07:28:00 - [105]
 

Edited by: Kilabie on 31/07/2009 07:31:15
Just downloaded 14.3 and it seems to fix the problem, that came with 14.2, thanks.

But when I click on reload, then I can't select characters or click on reload again, it gets greyed out.

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.08.01 00:18:00 - [106]
 

Edited by: Flammard on 02/08/2009 07:10:06
Edited by: Flammard on 01/08/2009 00:19:07
Originally by: Kilabie
Edited by: Kilabie on 31/07/2009 07:31:15
Just downloaded 14.3 and it seems to fix the problem, that came with 14.2, thanks.

But when I click on reload, then I can't select characters or click on reload again, it gets greyed out.


EDIT:

I've released 14.3, please let me know if there area any issues.

Adso Komarovsky
Posted - 2009.08.02 08:57:00 - [107]
 

Edited by: Adso Komarovsky on 02/08/2009 09:10:22
Great work!

You might like to think about a snappier name than MacEVEAPi which is a bit of a mouthful.

A useless suggestion to start the ball rolling, Picama - simply as it's an anagram of Mac and API.

ZokFotPik
Posted - 2009.08.02 15:01:00 - [108]
 

Upgraded 14.3 from 14.1: no issues. Love the new skill queue display.

Some usage issues I've encountered and suggestions:
1. When a skill finishes, it doesn't always update to show the new skill that started training from the queue. Manually clicking the reload button fixes it.
2. Sometimes after clicking reload the training rate says zero (although the new skill being trained is displayed). Clicking reload fixes. I suggest a auto-reload after a skill finishes, but delay it be a few seconds (30 or so should work) to address the above two issues.
3. Name suggestion: "EveTools for Mac"
4. Where's the toon that offered help on the dock icon? Would love to see a sample or temporary icon in the next update.

This is the best I've seen for a native Mac Eve tool. Seeing regular updates is a good sign, keep it up!

ZFP

Obinova
Posted - 2009.08.02 21:24:00 - [109]
 

This is great. Thanks for the hard work! I will definitely be sending you ISK donations when I pass the noob level.

Obinova
Posted - 2009.08.03 14:10:00 - [110]
 

After a day of use I got some suggestions.
I've seen no bugs and had no crashes. Always responsive and the application is seems to be intact.
A couple of things I wished if they were:

1. If skill planning estimated time took into consideration my current attributes + learning skills. In EVE, it says it will take 2 hours to learn a particular skill. But in this software it shows up as 5 hours. This is the case for all the skills. The real estimated time to complete a skill is shown correctly in EVE but not in this application.

2. Adding skills to plan through certificates.

Cheers and thanks for the work.

Sweep Streets
Posted - 2009.08.04 18:25:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Obinova
After a day of use I got some suggestions.
I've seen no bugs and had no crashes. Always responsive and the application is seems to be intact.
A couple of things I wished if they were:

1. If skill planning estimated time took into consideration my current attributes + learning skills. In EVE, it says it will take 2 hours to learn a particular skill. But in this software it shows up as 5 hours. This is the case for all the skills. The real estimated time to complete a skill is shown correctly in EVE but not in this application.

2. Adding skills to plan through certificates.

Cheers and thanks for the work.


I agree, attributes/learning calculated in the queue will make it more accurate. Ideally I want that app merged with a ship fitting tool, but I'm not developing any apps, so good job and keep it up!

Ayuno Velas
Minmatar
Lutinari Syndicate
Electus Matari
Posted - 2009.08.04 23:28:00 - [112]
 

Great to see a mac EVE program! Please keep up the amazing work.

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.08.05 09:37:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Obinova
After a day of use I got some suggestions.
I've seen no bugs and had no crashes. Always responsive and the application is seems to be intact.
A couple of things I wished if they were:

1. If skill planning estimated time took into consideration my current attributes + learning skills. In EVE, it says it will take 2 hours to learn a particular skill. But in this software it shows up as 5 hours. This is the case for all the skills. The real estimated time to complete a skill is shown correctly in EVE but not in this application.



It already does calculate this correctly, Check that my program reports your character attributes the same as the game client does. If there is a difference due to changing your implants or something similar you need to refresh the character sheet to get the latest attributes.

certificates is something I plan to do in the future, but I can't say when that will be done.

ZokFotPik:
Are you still getting the training rate showing zero in 14.4 ? It should be fixed, but it's only a graphical glitch.

The skill queue doesn't automaticly move on to the next skill, nor does the character sheet. I may fix this up later on, depending on what other parts of the program need my attention first.

Blasphemour
Posted - 2009.08.05 10:36:00 - [114]
 

I must say that my alt character has some faulty calculations as well.
A skill which in game says it last 11 hours is 1d2h according to the program.
If I check in the skill planner I sometimes see it over 100% completed.
For the rest it is still a fantastic program, it helps me alot in planning my skills and the occasional faulty calculation doesn't really bother me, since it usually corrects itself after quitting the app and restarting it.

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.08.05 10:59:00 - [115]
 

I know it will say >100% completed if the skill was training but finished some time in the past and the character sheet hasn't been refreshed, if that is what you are referring to.

Where are you seeing these faulty calculations? in the character sheet, the skill planner or both? Is it a skill that is being trained, has been partially trained in the past or one that has never been trained?

And you say it fixes itself up after you restart the program?

Sweep Streets
Posted - 2009.08.05 20:09:00 - [116]
 

Edited by: Sweep Streets on 05/08/2009 20:12:16
Edited by: Sweep Streets on 05/08/2009 20:10:46
Originally by: Flammard
I know it will say >100% completed if the skill was training but finished some time in the past and the character sheet hasn't been refreshed, if that is what you are referring to.

Where are you seeing these faulty calculations? in the character sheet, the skill planner or both? Is it a skill that is being trained, has been partially trained in the past or one that has never been trained?

And you say it fixes itself up after you restart the program?

I think what we're saying is the skill planner doesn't take into account the 100% training bonus for new players?

For example training a skill now with 4 hrs left (as the app says in my character sheet in
remaining,' the training queue in the app says 12hrs left.

edit- my attributes show up correctly in the app.

Binky Ruml
Posted - 2009.08.05 21:56:00 - [117]
 

One more observation on what is a most excellent addition to the Eve universe for players using a Mac Smile

Purely cosmetic but on the Skills Page within the Training Queue - if a skill has a long name such as

Advanced Weapon Upgrades (6x) or
Caldari Engineering Systems (1x)

then the skills name is overwritten on top of the Control to the right that shows the level

Cheers - Binky

Flammard
Caldari
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.08.05 22:53:00 - [118]
 

Edited by: Flammard on 06/08/2009 00:48:26
Edited by: Flammard on 05/08/2009 22:53:36
Originally by: Sweep Streets

I think what we're saying is the skill planner doesn't take into account the 100% training bonus for new players?

For example training a skill now with 4 hrs left (as the app says in my character sheet in
remaining,' the training queue in the app says 12hrs left.

edit- my attributes show up correctly in the app.



Ah, yeah. I don't take into account the new player training bonus, Is everyone who is getting this problem under 1.6 million SP ?

Originally by: Binky Ruml

Purely cosmetic but on the Skills Page within the Training Queue - if a skill has a long name such as

Advanced Weapon Upgrades (6x) or
Caldari Engineering Systems (1x)

then the skills name is overwritten on top of the Control to the right that shows the level



Yeah, I was aware of this problem when I released it. I'll be fixing that up soon.

EDIT: I've found another issue with the 24hr progress bar in the skill queue, I'll try and fix that for the next release.

Blasphemour
Posted - 2009.08.06 10:08:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Flammard
I know it will say >100% completed if the skill was training but finished some time in the past and the character sheet hasn't been refreshed, if that is what you are referring to.

I've had a skill in the skillplanner and the training queue on the character sheet saying it was at 173%. Refreshing the char sheet didn't fix it, neither did loading my other char and then my main char again.

Quote:

Where are you seeing these faulty calculations? in the character sheet, the skill planner or both?

In all the screens that display the skill being trained

Quote:

Is it a skill that is being trained, has been partially trained in the past or one that has never been trained?

I don't have partially trained skills so all new ones. It only does this with skills that are currently being trained.

Quote:

And you say it fixes itself up after you restart the program?

This is the behaviour I have seen yes.

With regard to you other question, I currently have close to 5 mil SP on my main char and just over 1.6 mil SP on my alt, so no this does not happen for new players only

Tallaran Kouros
Cryptonym Sleepers
Posted - 2009.08.08 21:44:00 - [120]
 

Is the source available?

I wouldn't mind taking a look and maybe contributing.


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