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CCP Fallout

Posted - 2009.06.10 19:43:00 - [1]
 

Maybe we at CCP are having too much of that wonderful summer ice cream. Or maybe we just like "moar powa"? In his first ever dev blog, CCP Valar, our Senior DBA on the Virtual Worlds Operations Team, outlines some of the hardware and software upgrades we are making to help us achieve world domination. You can read his blog here.

And remember, just because CCP Valar is new, please don't honor him with "first" (or even "second") posts. That is spam, and will be removed :)

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2009.06.10 19:58:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Chribba on 10/06/2009 19:59:59

Valar new? Ok...? hehe

Anyway I love the hardware, I love the databases. I love CCP. Can I have your old RamSan?

and oohhh ohhh /edit/smaller downtime rocks!! Keep up the great work!

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2009.06.10 20:05:00 - [3]
 

Where is my cookie?

Also a nice read.

Dmian
Gallente
Gallenterrorisme
Posted - 2009.06.10 20:13:00 - [4]
 

I want my cookie too!

I should take CCP Valar to my work. The guys there are plain... how could I say it nicely... inepts. This is the way you deploy software! Very Happy

Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.06.10 20:13:00 - [5]
 

Quote:
By now I've overwhelmed you with tech talk and if you've reached this far, you get a cookie.



Let's say you do a few more yarrdware blogs (with pics please), and i give you twice as many cookies back?

Letrange
Minmatar
Red Horizon Inc
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.06.10 20:16:00 - [6]
 

How to come across as a Dev-hero-issue:

Dump as much technical details as you can get away with in a Dev-blog. Advantages: layman oooh and aaah at you and experts give you some good feedback once they finish with the bucket of drool and hardware envy. Disadvantages: little to none. Your suppliers are happy with the mention (free advertising), The players bask in the knowledge that we probably know more about the hardware Tranquility runs on than the average wow developer knows about the servers wow runs on. One of these days you really need to get Tranquility rated on the supercomputer lists so we can get REAL geek gaming cred, but I digress.

Not complaining. No, no, far from it. Just pointing out.

Entipathy
Gallente
Posted - 2009.06.10 20:18:00 - [7]
 

There was no comments if these issues will resolve the lag issue we get during large engagements, will these hardware upgrades do anything to resolve the lag issue?

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.06.10 20:20:00 - [8]
 

Awesome dev-blog.

A++, would read again.

Where's my cookie? Cool

Merouk Baas
Gallente
Posted - 2009.06.10 20:24:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Chribba
Anyway I love the hardware, I love the databases. I love CCP. Can I have your old RamSan?



I don't think they're gonna give you the RamSan... maybe pieces of it. Maybe, like, they could break off chips from the old hardware they don't need anymore and sell it as "Authentic pieces of the EVE Universe" or at least the substrate. Or, even better, bottled dust! $5 gets you a small 10 mL vial of authentic dust from one of the fans from inside one of their servers!

YEAH!

IceBlade Rage
Immortalis Silens
Ethereal Dawn
Posted - 2009.06.10 20:27:00 - [10]
 

@Fallout: I hope you mean new relatively, as I think Valar has been around longer than you have, at least publicly.

@Valar: Pictures Please!

@The Lag People: It will likely not help much as the fights don't directly hit the database. However the news that they finished upgrading the SOL nodes will help the lag. The biggest limiter in the fleet fights now is both client side rendering and sheer brute calculations server side. The next big step they need to take is to make nodes able to span multiple processor cores.

Overall, awesome blog. We need more like this heh.

Cind Moltarr
Glowing Goat
Posted - 2009.06.10 20:28:00 - [11]
 

Ahhh, nice.

Where is my cookie? I'd prefer one with chocolate please.

Darth Sith
Genbuku.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2009.06.10 20:28:00 - [12]
 

As an IBM server engineer (when I'm not playing eve :)) all this talk of 3850 M2's is making me randy :P


Awesome work guys .. I was in a fleet fight 2 days ago .. 146 in local .. no lag at all. It has come a long way from the 30 - 60 sec module lag of the old days!



Morphisat
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
Posted - 2009.06.10 20:34:00 - [13]
 

Do you run the servers in core mode ? Would reduce some overhead and it's a nice new feature of server 2008.

Nick Marsh
Posted - 2009.06.10 21:09:00 - [14]
 

giev cookie!

yum, very nice hardware Very Happy would love to play with that, oh wait i am! YARRRR!!

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2009.06.10 21:14:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: CCP Fallout on 10/06/2009 21:15:24
Originally by: Chribba
Edited by: Chribba on 10/06/2009 19:59:59

Valar new? Ok...? hehe




Not at all :)

By "new" I meant new to our dev blogging world. He's been here for eons.

ToTheCore
Dreddit
Posted - 2009.06.10 21:22:00 - [16]
 

I believe you have my cookie...

Kismeteer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.10 21:35:00 - [17]
 

A very nice post. We would never get this kind of information out of any other MMO developer. Please continue on in this fashion! I look forward to the day when we don't have an hour downtime... Should make pos stront fueling more interesting, for sure.

Also, I think I had cookie blocking turned on, could I get another one?

TornSoul
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2009.06.10 21:50:00 - [18]
 

Valar has always been awesome - This blog just cements it.

And "new" and "Valar" in the same sentence (even though Fallout made a nice "save" with the "blogging community) is just lol Razz


CCP Fallout

Posted - 2009.06.10 21:58:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: TornSoul
And "new" and "Valar" in the same sentence (even though Fallout made a nice "save" with the "blogging community) is just lol Razz


No cookie for you :D

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.06.10 22:32:00 - [20]
 

Speaking of "new" database admins, is CCP Sharkbait still around?

How many database request do you get per day now, I know a year or so ago it was around 550 million a day.

Lialem
Posted - 2009.06.10 22:54:00 - [21]
 

Damn that monster costs $16.000!...

Ford Chicago
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.10 23:03:00 - [22]
 

Lots of great info, but I'm still curious!

Why are you only using two CPUs per cluster node as opposed to four? Upgrading to four seems like a relatively low cost even considering additional SQL Server licensing costs.

Are you using 32x4GB RDIMMS or 8GB RDIMMS?

What is the average processor load during downtime/startup? What is the average processor load during peak user activity?

I know you're using multi port FiberChannel HBAs to the RAMSAN, but what connects the database server to the sol nodes? Are those connections anywhere near saturation?

Again, great tech blog.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2009.06.10 23:45:00 - [23]
 

wait, ow, confused.

ok so before you had 4 3.3 GHz Wolfdale CPUs and 16 GB of RAM blades running right?

and like for a fleet flight you had to ask before hand to have a system placed on one to fight the lag.


Am I to believe that you now have nothing but 3.3 GHz Wolfdale CPUs and 16 GB of RAM nodes? Or am I understanding wrong?

also does this mean we no longer have to ask to reinforce a system? because every system in eve is this beefy??

Shigawahhhhh
Caldari
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2009.06.11 00:03:00 - [24]
 

Cool info

*eats cookie*

Jmarr Hyrgund
The Bastards
Posted - 2009.06.11 00:06:00 - [25]
 

I read, I understand (sort of), I wants cookie now :P

Entipathy
Gallente
Posted - 2009.06.11 00:29:00 - [26]
 

@The Lag People: It will likely not help much as the fights don't directly hit the database. However the news that they finished upgrading the SOL nodes will help the lag. The biggest limiter in the fleet fights now is both client side rendering and sheer brute calculations server side. The next big step they need to take is to make nodes able to span multiple processor cores.

This might be accomplished using VMware ESX, not sure if CCP has looked into this technology but it might resolve some of your single theard issues.


Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.06.11 00:31:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: MotherMoon
Am I to believe that you now have nothing but 3.3 GHz Wolfdale CPUs and 16 GB of RAM nodes? Or am I understanding wrong?

also does this mean we no longer have to ask to reinforce a system? because every system in eve is this beefy??

All nodes are beefy now, however a reinforced node means it is dedicated for a single solar system and not shared between multiple solar systems. So as I understand it you will still ask for a node to be reinforced if you plan a 1000vs1000 fight.

Maria Kalista
Amarr
Knights of Kador
Posted - 2009.06.11 02:31:00 - [28]
 

I hope one day you can show us how the EVE cluster looks like, with some pretty database babe in front of it. Cool

So, when will this upgrade happen?

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2009.06.11 03:21:00 - [29]
 

big behinds eh?

Back that thing up Cool

Darirol
Posted - 2009.06.11 03:29:00 - [30]
 

cookies \o/


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