open All Channels
seplocked Crime and Punishment
blankseplocked Suicide Ganking of Hulks Continues
 
This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5

Author Topic

Anda Chiyo
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2009.06.14 04:13:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Alxea
Edited by: Alxea on 13/06/2009 20:09:35
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Alxea&id=6924618&page=1&filter=kills#mail

No amount of tank will save you from even 2 people in gank cruisers. That was a 400mill kill. Somebody thought they could tank us. His tank, It failed, in like 2 secs.

[ 2009.06.13 00:38:16 ] (combat) Your group of Heavy Neutron Blaster II is well aimed at Yozudin (Hulk), inflicting 1580.3 damage.

I LOLz at the macro miners.

Destroyed items
Tech I Acolyte I 2 5,600
Tech II Modulated Strip Miner II 2 7,600,000
Tech I Veldspar Mining Crystal I 1 3,250

********************************************************
Tech I Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster 1 175,000,000
Tech I Gist B-Type Photon Scattering Field 1 15,000,000
Tech I Gist B-Type Heat Dissipation Field 1 15,000,000
*********************************************************
Tech I Cargohold Optimization I 2 63,977,800
Dropped items
Tech II Expanded Cargohold II 2 1,870,000
Tech I Acolyte I 5 14,000
Tech I Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array 1 1,700,000
Tech II Modulated Strip Miner II 1 3,800,000
Tech I Veldspar Mining Crystal I 2 6,501
Items in cargo
Dropped items
Tech I Veldspar 23,002 257,622
Total ISK loss
Tech II Hulk 101,412,000
Fitted items and cargo 284,234,774
385,646,774
Laughing

That's because it was a dumb and expensive way to try and tank. Best chance defense against a gank would be to buffer it and keep things cheap.

/Me dons EFT warrior cloak

[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Micro B66 Core Augmentation
Damage Control II

Medium Shield Extender II
V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix
V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix
Invulnerability Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Ancillary Current Router I
Core Defence Field Extender I

"Just" fits (All lvl V setting) - 375/375 cpu - 63.25/63.25 grid
Almost 30K EHP

Could play with hardeners a bit "if" you have a CPU implant. Since everyone and his dog are using gank rax's, Could mix up some kin/therm hardeners and take your chances that's what would be coming for you.

Unless time was taken to do a passive scan and up adjust numbers, your typical 3 rax gank would fail.

BTW - does posting in this thread grant me a Hulk kill? Wink

Mystafyre
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.06.14 05:58:00 - [92]
 

One hulk makes 10 M ISK from mining veldspar per hour.

So, that's 230 M ISK a day.

4x Hulks and 2x IttyV makes 27.6 B ISK on 30 day month.

However the real macros aren't doing that.

Instead of that they are ice mining.

Orca + 5 Mackinaws for example.

Let's say that one mackinaw makes 8 M ISK per hour by mining ice (didn't bother to calculate the actual number, but its close to that).

That's 335.8 BILLION ISK per year!!!

That's without any disruptions. But still...

Oppold (Metropolis) and Gedugaud (Metropolis) has had the same about 80 Mackinaws for two years now. Farming ISK, without any breaks.

They have made just 5.3 TRILLION ISK... Laughing

The funny part is that without these bots or slaved chinese people we wouldn't have enough ice at the market. Players ice mining is rare sight... The bots and macros and slaved chinese people are probably like 90% of the ice miners in empire.

Without these T2 prices would skyrocket as first due massive POS fuel costs.

Best for the game is that CCP would FINALLY start checking up the ice fields regurlarly and ban them! There is like 5-20 ice fields in each region... Empire regions are the ones where they are doing that... It's not that hard...

Absolutely nobody can't play this game 23/7/365...

Preda Ellalle
Posted - 2009.06.14 06:06:00 - [93]
 

/me looks over at Major Reach's thread and roflmaoLaughing

Dapto
Minmatar
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.14 10:49:00 - [94]
 

Major's a funny dude if i didnt run disso i'd join him for sure as his crew have lots of lols

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.06.14 11:01:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Anda Chiyo

[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Micro B66 Core Augmentation
Damage Control II

Medium Shield Extender II
V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix
V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix
Invulnerability Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Ancillary Current Router I
Core Defence Field Extender I


Typically GREED gets its teeth into these people and they choose to fit mods that increase isk/hr

sir gankalot
Posted - 2009.06.14 13:50:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Mystafyre


The funny part is that without these bots or slaved chinese people we wouldn't have enough ice at the market. Players ice mining is rare sight... The bots and macros and slaved chinese people are probably like 90% of the ice miners in empire.

Without these T2 prices would skyrocket as first due massive POS fuel costs.


There will ALWAYS be 'enough' ice on the market, supply will always meet demand at some point. If the bots were removed ice prices would skyrocket and everyone and his dog would hop into a mackinaw and start melting rocks, bringing price down again. It is THAT simple...

Nihilion Zero
Posted - 2009.06.15 19:59:00 - [97]
 

Hi, I was wondering if you thought a couple brutixs would work as well?

Subspace Wolf
Eisenhower Anti-Pirates
Posted - 2009.06.16 04:34:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Nihilion Zero
Hi, I was wondering if you thought a couple brutixs would work as well?


Listen up pirates - we know u are all criminals!


Delilah Wild
Posted - 2009.06.17 01:31:00 - [99]
 

I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.

Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.

If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Delilah

sir gankalot
Posted - 2009.06.17 16:46:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Delilah Wild
I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.

Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.

If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Delilah
The lack of commitment these piwates are showing disturbs me, not even a 2nd attempt??? Shocked

Shpana
Chimera Raiders
MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2009.06.17 16:50:00 - [101]
 

Edited by: Shpana on 17/06/2009 16:50:13
Originally by: Delilah Wild
I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.

Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.



If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Delilah


arrogant assumption??? you kill a rax in a gate and imediatly make a post about it.. asking ppl to convo you to know how you made it, plz grow up, most of ppl reading and posting here just for *hit and giggles could do it all day long if they had any interest in that, so plz cut the act, and funny thing is i didnt see u post about all the other 55 hulks that died in the meanwhile, plz stay of drugs...

Awesome Possum
Original Sin.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
Posted - 2009.06.17 16:54:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Delilah Wild
I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.

Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.

If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Delilah


Except, of course, for the numerous posts by those same pirates discussing exactly how to stop suicide ganking of hulks in high sec from occuring.

Moron

Cal Darinne
Caldari
Posted - 2009.06.17 17:02:00 - [103]
 

I approve of not approving this thread.

PS: Delilah Wild is a piwate! Beware, beware!

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.06.17 19:12:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Shpana
Edited by: Shpana on 17/06/2009 16:50:13
Originally by: Delilah Wild
I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.

Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.



If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Delilah


arrogant assumption??? you kill a rax in a gate and imediatly make a post about it.. asking ppl to convo you to know how you made it, plz grow up, most of ppl reading and posting here just for *hit and giggles could do it all day long if they had any interest in that, so plz cut the act, and funny thing is i didnt see u post about all the other 55 hulks that died in the meanwhile, plz stay of drugs...


To be fair, the friends are doing alright with the fights from what I can see, all things considered. From what I can see they deserve some respect for their efforts so far.

Shpana
Chimera Raiders
MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2009.06.17 19:44:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Shpana
Edited by: Shpana on 17/06/2009 16:50:13
Originally by: Delilah Wild
I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.

Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.



If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Delilah


arrogant assumption??? you kill a rax in a gate and imediatly make a post about it.. asking ppl to convo you to know how you made it, plz grow up, most of ppl reading and posting here just for *hit and giggles could do it all day long if they had any interest in that, so plz cut the act, and funny thing is i didnt see u post about all the other 55 hulks that died in the meanwhile, plz stay of drugs...


To be fair, the friends are doing alright with the fights from what I can see, all things considered. From what I can see they deserve some respect for their efforts so far.


TBH to me anyone that puts up a fight, deserves some respect, but if someone like you say puts up a FIGHT its not Delilah, and all u have to do is to fly around shar and see for yourself, yes some of them DO put up a fight with their blobs of justice (LOL) some have killed some piwates some have lost some ships, all in the good name of fun, that imo is what a game is all about, but plz this Delilah is just a scam not even worth the ammo my low sec alt wasted on him... oh wait i use crystals :)
If he just flyed down to shar and just shoot stuff like other do, but no, always flys around in t1 frigs while the ones that DO put up a fight get their ships on the line, and then comes to forums with this kind of attitude.

\o fly wrecklessly

Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.17 20:07:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Shpana
Edited by: Shpana on 17/06/2009 16:50:13
Originally by: Delilah Wild
I am very pleased to report that we recently stopped a suicide gank by Major Reach and company in the system of Nausschie. Having staged in Sharuveil, a Thorax fleet passed into Nausschie with the intention of ganking a Hulk. But once in Nausschie, Obeeone and Kasigi tied down and destroyed Chushah's Thorax and pod at the Nausschie gate. Deprived of necessary firepower, the pirates returned to Sharuveil empty handed.

Many readers of the Friends of Sharuveil blog have followed this EVE Forum thread on suicide ganking. What is notable about this thread is the arrogant assumption on the part of pirates that they cannot be stopped. Nothing could be further from the truth.



If you would like to discuss how we accomplished this in greater detail, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Delilah


arrogant assumption??? you kill a rax in a gate and imediatly make a post about it.. asking ppl to convo you to know how you made it, plz grow up, most of ppl reading and posting here just for *hit and giggles could do it all day long if they had any interest in that, so plz cut the act, and funny thing is i didnt see u post about all the other 55 hulks that died in the meanwhile, plz stay of drugs...


To be fair, the friends are doing alright with the fights from what I can see, all things considered. From what I can see they deserve some respect for their efforts so far.


I knew Spank was going senile.

Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
Posted - 2009.06.17 22:29:00 - [107]
 

And i thought a hulk would get ganked if i posted here....

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.06.17 23:19:00 - [108]
 


Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.06.18 00:11:00 - [109]
 

I have stopped caring about hulks.

Delilah Wild
Posted - 2009.06.20 18:16:00 - [110]
 

Well now these are some interesting posts. A few comments.

First, thank you Lady Spank. We appreciate your kind and honest words.

Second, we know we can't protect all the hulks in high sec on our own. But we can and will certainly share what seems to work when it is appropriate.

Third, you seem a tad defensive Shpana. You can easily check on the many ships I've lost in our campaign against piracy. It is, however, no secret that I attribute our success to our members and not myself. I am but a kitten in EVE. At the same time, you might be interested in a recent post from these forums that I have reproduced on our blog. It speaks to the power of asymmetric struggle, or to put it another way, the power of flying in small ships to accomplish big goals.

Finally, I cannot honestly regret your feathers getting ruffled because I don't sit on a gate in an underpowered battleship waiting for a blob of pirates to issue forth. I may be the politics of the organization, so to speak, but I've got just a tad of military sense as well. So better luck next time.

Delilah

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.06.20 19:42:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
I knew Spank was going senile.


To be fair, isk war or otherwise, picking out major reach in this engagement is p cool.

I am not taking sides of course, just trying to see things in balance.

I hope both sides are having fun.

I haven't been round those parts for a few weeks but seeing a battleship called 'Delilah Killer' was p funny. Mean, but funny.

Delilah, your welcome and good luck to both sides ♥

Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.06.20 20:02:00 - [112]
 

Miners of Sharufail die to a smaller gang with sentrys on thier side

It's engagements like these that really illustrate just how much of a failure the OP and his ilk really are.

They managed to kill off the bait ship. I'm sure after insurance the loss was less than 10m. MEAT managed to kill off not one or two of the opposing ships, but *every single one*, and a pod (lol). It's also amusing to note that the OP is in a Breacher of all things. How about you put your ISK where your mouth is OP and sack up?

Carebears always immediately start crowing about the slightest most insignificant perceived success. Killing a single Thorax isn't worth posting about. Killing every single Thorax for a week that attempts a suicide gank would be worth mentioning.

Try to actually accomplish something before you try so hard to pat yourself on the back. Your arm must need a rest.

The Crushah
Gallente
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.06.20 20:08:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Miners of Sharufail die to a smaller gang with sentrys on thier side

It's engagements like these that really illustrate just how much of a failure the OP and his ilk really are.

They managed to kill off the bait ship. I'm sure after insurance the loss was less than 10m. MEAT managed to kill off not one or two of the opposing ships, but *every single one*, and a pod (lol). It's also amusing to note that the OP is in a Breacher of all things. How about you put your ISK where your mouth is OP and sack up?

Carebears always immediately start crowing about the slightest most insignificant perceived success. Killing a single Thorax isn't worth posting about. Killing every single Thorax for a week that attempts a suicide gank would be worth mentioning.

Try to actually accomplish something before you try so hard to pat yourself on the back. Your arm must need a rest.


Plus it was my Thorax they caught and I suck, so its really not an accomplishment at all.

Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.06.20 20:15:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: The Crushah

Plus it was my Thorax they caught and I suck, so its really not an accomplishment at all.


Yeah, that's true.. <throws Crusha under the bus> lol!

YARRRR!!

Dave Hourai
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.06.24 15:10:00 - [115]
 

Edited by: Dave Hourai on 24/06/2009 15:25:18
Edited by: Dave Hourai on 24/06/2009 15:15:24
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Sader Rykane
1. Warp to belt.
2. Shoot yourself with an alt so that concord warps in to the belt.
3. Mine merrily.
4. ?????
5.Profit



Enjoy being petitioned for that particular exploit.


Explain to me how you were caught? Maybe those three Ibis pilots really thought they could take me down? Maybe they realy dont like me and they dont care how many concord ships are around?!

Fact is, theres no way to tell whether someone is shooting themselves on purpose unless they are doing it from the same IP, which can easily be circumvented.

I do have a hulk pilot alt, but I haven't mined in over a month anyway. It's really hardly worth the time when you can run level 4's.

Anyone of you suicided hulk pilots wanna buy my alts Hulk for 96 mil?


[From a while back, first page methinks]

CCP says: All Your Accounts R Belong To Us

lol of course they ****ing know whos alt is who, you ARE an ignorant carebear if you think that will work and that we wont petition it. Besides, there's are more than one hulk in systems at a time ALWAYS and, we KNOW how much you pitiful carebears NEED your OWN belt to mine in, PLEASE DONT TAKE MY ORE WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

So, please do us a favor and:

-Shoot yourself with an alt so that CONCORD is on the other side of the system when we gank that other hulk over there. Then we warp to YOU (covertops-like) and petition the **** out of you for exploiting "faux" security. If you're so rich from mining all the time that you can fit faction mods to your ****ING HULK, why dont you pay a merc to watch you or something.

Another:

Originally by: Thucydides Milesias
This is why you work in teams.

This is the way it's supposed to work. Unfortunately, as the game is coded pirates will always have the upper hand, but resistance is possible.

Pirates enjoy killing for the ISK and for the opportunity to ruin someone's day. EVE is basically a giant griefing machine, so when you mine, plan to grief them back. Which, really, this whole post is about.

Props to you; keep doing what you're doing. Without people like you, there would be nothing to stop piracy from growing unchecked to the point that no new player could gain a foothold.


HAHA We would own everythnig in EVE if pirates had the "upper hand". How about sentry fire, station fire? Concord coming to kill us ON SIGHT? CCP has made it all but impossible for us to work our magic, because of ***** ass carebears like you and your "indy wing" loaded with hulks, ****ing themselves when they see a pirate and ****ting themselves when they show up in the belt, ready to overheat guns and skull **** you. Keep mining, our alts are watching you all. . .

Dave Hourai
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.06.24 15:24:00 - [116]
 

Edited by: Dave Hourai on 24/06/2009 15:25:43
removed :P

Epic Edit
Posted - 2009.06.24 16:51:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: Epic Edit on 24/06/2009 16:51:25
What happened to my Hulk?

Oh, wait... I can't fly a Hulk

Never Mind

Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.06.25 14:35:00 - [118]
 

To whom can we contract Thoraxes to keep this lol going? :)

Lirune Sharmier
Gallente
Chimera Raiders
Posted - 2009.06.25 15:17:00 - [119]
 

Contract the thoraxes to Major Reach or the corp he belongs to, Death of Virtue.

Lokia Enroch
Special Situations
TOHA Conglomerate
Posted - 2009.06.25 18:07:00 - [120]
 

What I don't understand, is that looking at the killmails, even decently tanked hulks seem to die. I look at EFT and see 11k effective HP and a 76 dps tank for my hulk. I wonder if that would last long enough. Although I fit two Small extenders a Invun and a Booster. I've had a raven try to suicide me (didn't get on KM though :( ) How much more DPS does 5 destroyers do?


Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5

This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 


The new forums are live

Please adjust your bookmarks to https://forums.eveonline.com

These forums are archived and read-only