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Ja'kar
M. Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2009.06.04 20:14:00 - [1]
 

I plan on using it on road 90% of the time and then use it for cross country

I was told that with dual suspension it becomes too hard to ride on the road as the suspension absorbs the speed of the bike and makes them useless for roads

So the question is it better to go for no suspension bikes, single or dual is there any real difference with road riding

Thanks

p.s. How important or disk brakes

Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2009.06.04 20:55:00 - [2]
 

don't bother with full suspension imo, it will just make you heavier and you don't need it at all for what you're doing.

Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2009.06.05 08:23:00 - [3]
 

Modern suspension on anything with a decent price doesn't absorb your pedalling energy.

Cheap single pivot crap will, however.

Now, when I used to cycle to work - I was riding a Devinci 8-Flat-8. It was a freeride/DH platform bike, 6" travel front and rear. Coil/Oil up front, Air/Coil down back.

Felt like you were riding a tank - utterly bombproof. You could slam over ruts and grates in the road as if they weren't even there. Sure it weighed a bit more - but in all honesty once you got it up to speed you had momentum on your side.

The only huge change I made on it for road riding was to stiffen the suspension up a bit and put DMR Moto Digger tyres on it, as Severe Condition Mud tyres aren't the best on the road. They just wear out too quick.

The rear shock of the Devinci was a Manitou Swinger 4 way, which has something called a Stable Platform Valve, combined with the Hurst Linkage on the rear of the bike means you get next to no Pedal Bob when riding.

Thing is, then I decided "Oh hay hardtails are supposed to be good" and bought a 2009 Orange Crush hardtail. It had the most horrid Fox Racing Coil/Oil fork up front, stiff as all hell (maybe i'm not fat enough).

Still, its a nice bike essentially, but going from my Devinci Tank to the Orange FeebleFrame was unbearable - every bump, rut, dink and grate in the road was transferred right into my spine. I couldn't get much speed up as every rut slammed the bike so hard I felt it was going to snap in two.

I also got a legion of pinch flats after being used to just duffing up kerbs with no problems.

I hate hardtails.


As for brakes, both bikes did have Hydraulic Discs - which are great providing you don't get them wet. They still work when wet, but god, do they scream. I wouldn't have anything but Hydraulic discs now though - the braking performance is right up there, and going from "insta-stop" to "mushy-stop" would be painful.

Personally I'd suggest going to a bike store and just having a test ride on a variety of bikes - if your price range doesn't go over 1000, its probably best you stick with hardtails. Decent full sus machines demand a price that most people find prohibitive. My Devinci was 2,000 new.

If you're talking about cheap bikes - do not buy a 100 full suspension bike. They have nylon bushings rather than bearings that wear out in one season, the "shocks" are nothing more than a preloaded spring with no damping (hence the pogo stick effect) and generally they're just cheap detritus.

I'd never spend less than 250 on a bike nowadays, the cheap ones are looking better, bu when it comes to machinery - you honestly get what you pay for.

If you have a decent amount of cash at your disposal - look into some of the XC Full suspension bikes, they have shorter travel, usually with lock-out on the suspension (so you can disable the sus completely if you wish), this would be the best option for you. But once again, features like this are not cheap.

Klashed
KNET Intelligence
Posted - 2009.06.05 17:33:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Klashed on 05/06/2009 17:36:50
Buy a full suspension bike, and just stiffen up the rear coil when you're road riding

As for hydraulic discs, definitely worth the extra money!

Ben Sullivan
The Foreign Legion
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.06.06 11:43:00 - [5]
 

Don't go dual for what you're using it for.

Dual = heavy, unnecessary, harder for the road.

Hardtail = (y)

Also, you'll be better for x country with a hardtail, as dual sus makes you think you're better than you are as it absorbs everything for you etc etc.



Drakolus
Amarr
Dopehead Industries
True Reign
Posted - 2009.06.06 16:49:00 - [6]
 

I'm probably wierd but when I used to ride a lot I actually preferred single or no suspension.

I could not stand suspension on the front as it tended to have my front bouncing all over the place and I lost a lot of control. Yeah, later on I realize I could have made the suspension in the front harder but I just tend to prefer no suspension or only suspension on the back wheel (and rather rigid suspension at that).

Evthron Macyntire
Posted - 2009.06.06 20:54:00 - [7]
 

When I was a kid they didn't have suspension on bikes, and if they did they were too expensive to buy. It's just a gimmick, it doesn't make any real difference, at least none that I have noticed.


 

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