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dastommy79
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:07:00 - [331]
 

On the Eastern front:

Atlas+Agression have continued our push east. Atlas as of last night secured several high end moons and has destroyed over 60 hostile towers in the detroit area. Agression is doing well cleaning up the leftovers of immensia. Resistance has been light. Xdeath did manage to online a cyno jammer in one of the contested systems during our off time. Sov4 has been broken already in once constelation and we should have the second sov4 broken in the next couple days.


Yonker
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:09:00 - [332]
 

Originally by: Richyp
Originally by: Serj Darek

Why don't you just read your Alliance Mails?


Because it's full of Tower mails, but I guess you forgot what thats like :shobon:


Boosh



(Also because I'm more after the comments from the rest of the EVE community, I read the updates on our forums the day before they're posted on COAD)

Tobruk
Caldari
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:12:00 - [333]
 

Originally by: Snot Shot
So that was all you could come back with hu…a few comments about a statement any Alliance leader would have made to rally troops, and then an attempt to tarnish the past 4 years of Epic wars won and lost by both sides of which many of us were apart of? Then, yet again, pointing to Ken not being able to take back 3 Regions knocked to Sov-1 overnight against the NAP train of EVE…… gf……try and twist it another way so this thing does not look like the circus side show that it is…

On many occasions GS looked back at the East to take inventory as to how far gone their escape route was but was reassured by the NAP train that they were safe. And here we are again with this thread bleeding back into “whining, exploits”, and the usual GS propaganda and meaningless drivel.

Just sayin……..

Dr. Shot



Hi i am am member of Evolution the most active corp in BOB and its 2006

Omnipotence itself

there are no goons

we are stealing your targtes

well hold the line at feyth

were reconsolidating in delve

Finfleet

haha we lost everything but held delve we win

were not going to take space were just going to do maximum damage

youll never take delve from us

you only took delve from us becuase we were sov 1 if it was sov 3 or 4 you would have lost

now that you have sov 3 or 4 we are going to take back delve

ok were going to take back querious

ok were going to do a month long offensive and secure a foothold in 49-U the expand into I1Y and ED

ok were gonna hold 49-

Hi i am am member of EXE the most active entity related to RKZ (Formerly bob)and its 2009

just sayin

Dr. Tobruk

Joker Deville
Caldari
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:24:00 - [334]
 

Spam. Post removed. Zymurgist

Kybernis
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:33:00 - [335]
 

Originally by: Yonker
(Also because I'm more after the comments from the rest of the EVE community, I read the updates on our forums the day before they're posted on COAD)


I think what we are learning from The Mittani's threads is that while KenZoku sat out the first month of the war in a NPC station, its allies were busy cutting off the Goons' retreat. Apparently, no one noticed that the Goons' disconnected the utilities and hung out a "for sale" sign.

I do not know whether the Goons are any good at this game, but y'all are doing a good job writing its history.

Crucifier
Caldari
Gank Bangers
Moar Tears
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:34:00 - [336]
 

Originally by: Yonker
Edited by: Yonker on 04/06/2009 15:07:08
Originally by: Snot Shot
So that was all you could come back with hu…a few comments about a statement any Alliance leader would have made to rally troops, and then an attempt to tarnish the past 4 years of Epic wars won and lost by both sides of which many of us were apart of? Then, yet again, pointing to Ken not being able to take back 3 Regions knocked to Sov-1 overnight against the NAP train of EVE…… gf……try and twist it another way so this thing does not look like the circus side show that it is…

On many occasions GS looked back at the East to take inventory as to how far gone their escape route was but was reassured by the NAP train that they were safe. And here we are again with this thread bleeding back into “whining, exploits”, and the usual GS propaganda and meaningless drivel.

Just sayin……..

Dr. Shot



What do you expect? Us to pat them on the back and say good job?

This started because they, a group of multi-million SP pilots in a massive 0.0 alliance, decided they wanted to stomp a bunch of lowsec pirate newbies over some internet words that offended them. They were not after some fair fight or a good time... they were attempting to remove us from the game in possibly the most one sided 'war' to date. This war is no more than a protracted 'NO U' from the above newbies. Except we were able to follow through.

There are a thousand reasons you can come up with as to why they lost. Individual battles, 'omg NAP fest', Haargoth stealing their alliance, etc. But looking at the overall picture... they started with every advantage possible and we started with newbies in Rifters.

But now we're sitting in Delve and they're the lowsec pirates.







Yeah this was p well done, p well done indeed.

Loki L'Odin
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:35:00 - [337]
 

Edited by: Loki L''Odin on 04/06/2009 15:35:31
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: 6/4

In failure cascade news, Skunk-Works lost a fifth member corp, Aeon of Strife. With 64 members that's a fairly substantial percentage loss for an already-screwed pet.



Once again your "spy network" fails you...or you just don't have any in Skunks? I'm sure in the next week you'll be noting in your updates that Skunks have "completely" failure cascaded without looking whats going on? Rolling Eyes

The Mittani
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:36:00 - [338]
 

Originally by: Yonker

What do you expect? Us to pat them on the back and say good job?

This started because they, a group of multi-million SP pilots in a massive 0.0 alliance, decided they wanted to stomp a bunch of lowsec pirate newbies over some internet words that offended them. They were not after some fair fight or a good time... they were attempting to remove us from the game in possibly the most one sided 'war' to date. This war is no more than a protracted 'NO U' from the above newbies. Except we were able to follow through.

There are a thousand reasons you can come up with as to why they lost. Individual battles, 'omg NAP fest', Haargoth stealing their alliance, etc. But looking at the overall picture... they started with every advantage possible and we started with newbies in Rifters.

But now we're sitting in Delve and they're the lowsec pirates.



damn son, this is a post

The Mittani
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:39:00 - [339]
 

Originally by: Loki L'Odin
Edited by: Loki L''Odin on 04/06/2009 15:35:31
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: 6/4

In failure cascade news, Skunk-Works lost a fifth member corp, Aeon of Strife. With 64 members that's a fairly substantial percentage loss for an already-screwed pet.



Once again your "spy network" fails you...or you just don't have any in Skunks? I'm sure in the next week you'll be noting in your updates that Skunks have "completely" failure cascaded without looking whats going on? Rolling Eyes


if jumping ship from skunkworks into aggression and moving to immensea isn't a cascade i don't know what is

'yase i know let us all join an alliance with a period in its name'

thelung187
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:39:00 - [340]
 

Originally by: Snot Shot
So that was all you could come back with hu…a few comments about a statement any Alliance leader would have made to rally troops, and then an attempt to tarnish the past 4 years of Epic wars won and lost by both sides of which many of us were apart of? Then, yet again, pointing to Ken not being able to take back 3 Regions knocked to Sov-1 overnight against the NAP train of EVE…… gf……try and twist it another way so this thing does not look like the circus side show that it is…

On many occasions GS looked back at the East to take inventory as to how far gone their escape route was but was reassured by the NAP train that they were safe. And here we are again with this thread bleeding back into “whining, exploits”, and the usual GS propaganda and meaningless drivel.

Just sayin……..

Dr. Shot



You are probably one of the worst posters on the Eve-o forums. And that's coming from me ugh

OninoTimmo
Minmatar
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:45:00 - [341]
 

Originally by: dastommy79
Originally by: Heath Ledger
A solid point, however Ken could have done alot more to delay our progress in Delve during that time period, and instead chose to roam about in hacs accomplishing nothing.


Ken did the right thing. There was nothing they could have done against the sheer numbers of people that bum rushed delve after the goonswarm metagaming attack. The best thing they could do is sit it out while the rest of us did our part to take advantage of the situation on our end.






"Heh the plan all along was for them to keep goons occupied in Delve while we secured their undefended space."

If Zokengu didn't have terrible allies they wouldn't have waited an entire month for a single fleet to break them out of PR-.

Originally by: Snot Shot
Part #2
Dr. Shot



Post with your main

Brmble
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:46:00 - [342]
 

I ebjoy reading our alliance mails because of the 1-day old BTLS noobs :3

marxist revolutionary
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:49:00 - [343]
 

Edited by: marxist revolutionary on 04/06/2009 15:51:58
Atlas is a better alliance than kenzoku imo tbqh

Besomyka
Caldari
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.04 15:59:00 - [344]
 

Originally by: dastommy79
For historical record Atlas and the rest of superfreinds was disgusted by the actions and where willing to leave our current theaters to assist in delve. Molle made the call for the rest of us to stay and cleanup your mess down south. This also shows the character of your enemy, one who sacrafices himself for the greater good of his friends. E-honour and stuff


Let me get this straight. Kenny allies say, "We can take them! The betrayal doesn't have to be a killing blow!", and Molle said, "Naw, I'd rather lose everything." ?

Huh. I don't see how that fits into good strategy OR 'honorable' behavior. Now if they had left to HELP you take territory or something, that would be different. I mean, then there would be ACTION behind the decision. Instead, it looks like a sorry sort of rationalization after-the-fact, and completely ineffectual action regardless of what the intent was. Do you have chat logs of board postings to back up this strange claim?

I mean, what was the point of doing nothing for a while, then? Where is the honor displayed?

The way I see it, if they want to keep Delve, then they thank you profusely for offering aid, accept it, and repay you ten-fold once the war is over. If they don't think they can keep Delve, but that their allies could get some territory while we're distracted, then they can clone jump/pod-jump, evac whatever they can to your territory, and help you take systems. Then you, as good friends, provide some stable base with which to launch a long-term attack back on Delve.

Instead, what appears to have happened, is that they abandoned their defense of Delve, failed to assist their allies. Then they changed their mind about things, requested/demanded that their allies come to their aid in the defense of 49-, did some tower spam... and then got bored again.

I just can't see how your assertion has and basis in reality. There's no honor in what they are doing, it's just chaos and indecision.

Pasen Haas
Caldari
Bad Kitty Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.06.04 16:00:00 - [345]
 

Edited by: Pasen Haas on 04/06/2009 16:00:36
Originally by: The Mittani

'yase i know let us all join an alliance with a period in its name'


Well as long as that's the general sentiment... Surprised

Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.04 16:05:00 - [346]
 

Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 04/06/2009 16:15:13
Ahh yes. The old "The south was burning" argument.. sad thing is.. the amount of station systems lost to Kenny and AAA in the south that was defended amounts to one. We still had station systems in Estoria with jump bridges that had successfully been defended for months, for example 111. Yes the RIT attack had stalled but that was because a Goonswarm director reset DG- which kind of distracted us for a few weeks.

The biggest battles for Detroid and Fieth were
~(a)The 2 pronged assault on 0-w and EPROS on the 20th of December, that ended up with the entire BOB capital fleet killed and AAA's fleet reduced to smoking wreckage
~(b)DG- which was when we burned your director level spy and in desperation he dropped sov in one system by stealing an account.
Both of those resulted in total victories for Goonswarm and allies.

When the reset happened we were gearing up to go on the offensive, as BOB was no threat and AAA was suddenly unable to do anything without their high level spy cluing them in.
~Wicked Creek had been completely taken back from EXE despite BOB and AAA defending it with everything they could throw at it.
~BOB was down to one system in Detroid.
~R2TJ had been held once again and set up as a jump bridge system for the second time.
~ROL was in real trouble, unable to block us from running the complex, and were reduced to running it 23/7, when we were not in system, to raise cash.
~AAA was down to disrupting Jump bridge systems again, but at that stage we had secured a secure alternative jump route to empire so trade was flowing into Goonspace once again, so that made no difference.
~Hell I was able to rat for hours without interruption when I needed to.
~And BOBs staging system in HADOC was camped 23/7 by PL.

Sorry this whole "Goons fled the south in desperation into delve" is total crap. When we arrived in Delve we were battle hardened, hungry and our morale was in the stratosphere. AAA didn't even begin camping the AZN area for 2 days afterwords.

No-one stopped me shooting towers last night, or this morning. Will they do it tonight?

Snowden Vel
Minmatar
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2009.06.04 16:48:00 - [347]
 

The funny thing about the "-A- were busy taking goon space KenZoku bravely fought alone against impossible odds" line is that -A- spent a lot of the first few weeks of the Delve offensive roaming around the Delve/Querious area with 100+ HAC gangs while massive fights were raging. If they'd brought fleet battleships and jumped into the action rather than flitting around the fringes, the outcomes might have been different. Regardless, they certainly weren't fully occupied with unopposed tower spam and they certainly had the opportunity to do much more to swing the outcome.

Originally by: Tobruk
Hi i am am member of Evolution the most active corp in BOB and its 2006

Omnipotence itself

there are no goons

we are stealing your targtes

well hold the line at feyth

were reconsolidating in delve

Finfleet

haha we lost everything but held delve we win

were not going to take space were just going to do maximum damage

youll never take delve from us

you only took delve from us becuase we were sov 1 if it was sov 3 or 4 you would have lost

now that you have sov 3 or 4 we are going to take back delve

ok were going to take back querious

ok were going to do a month long offensive and secure a foothold in 49-U the expand into I1Y and ED

ok were gonna hold 49-

Hi i am am member of EXE the most active entity related to RKZ (Formerly bob)and its 2009

just sayin

Dr. Tobruk


Congratulations on writing the definitive history of KenZoku.

Heath Ledger
Caldari
54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry
Posted - 2009.06.04 16:53:00 - [348]
 

War. War never changes.

Faekurias
Caldari
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2009.06.04 17:04:00 - [349]
 

Originally by: Heath Ledger
War. War never changes.


F- you, made me wanna play Fallout 2 nao.

Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.04 17:30:00 - [350]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
a man with a great deal of character but no morality


^__^

Will Hunter
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.04 17:46:00 - [351]
 

Originally by: Yonker
Edited by: Yonker on 04/06/2009 15:07:08
Originally by: Snot Shot
So that was all you could come back with hu…a few comments about a statement any Alliance leader would have made to rally troops, and then an attempt to tarnish the past 4 years of Epic wars won and lost by both sides of which many of us were apart of? Then, yet again, pointing to Ken not being able to take back 3 Regions knocked to Sov-1 overnight against the NAP train of EVE…… gf……try and twist it another way so this thing does not look like the circus side show that it is…

On many occasions GS looked back at the East to take inventory as to how far gone their escape route was but was reassured by the NAP train that they were safe. And here we are again with this thread bleeding back into “whining, exploits”, and the usual GS propaganda and meaningless drivel.

Just sayin……..

Dr. Shot



What do you expect? Us to pat them on the back and say good job?

This started because they, a group of multi-million SP pilots in a massive 0.0 alliance, decided they wanted to stomp a bunch of lowsec pirate newbies over some internet words that offended them. They were not after some fair fight or a good time... they were attempting to remove us from the game in possibly the most one sided 'war' to date. This war is no more than a protracted 'NO U' from the above newbies. Except we were able to follow through.

There are a thousand reasons you can come up with as to why they lost. Individual battles, 'omg NAP fest', Haargoth stealing their alliance, etc. But looking at the overall picture... they started with every advantage possible and we started with newbies in Rifters.

But now we're sitting in Delve and they're the lowsec pirates.






read this post, seriusly read this post

Snot Shot
Minmatar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2009.06.04 17:51:00 - [352]
 

Quote:
What do you expect? Us to pat them on the back and say good job?

This started because they, a group of multi-million SP pilots in a massive 0.0 alliance, decided they wanted to stomp a bunch of lowsec pirate newbies over some internet words that offended them. They were not after some fair fight or a good time... they were attempting to remove us from the game in possibly the most one sided 'war' to date. This war is no more than a protracted 'NO U' from the above newbies. Except we were able to follow through.

There are a thousand reasons you can come up with as to why they lost. Individual battles, 'omg NAP fest', Haargoth stealing their alliance, etc. But looking at the overall picture... they started with every advantage possible and we started with newbies in Rifters.

But now we're sitting in Delve and they're the lowsec pirates.

Booosh….Yes, big picture you are sitting in Delve, but the dispute of each thread to date has been how you got there and not some historical justification to support the fight. Who cares how far back it goes or what started it. To date all GS+NAP train has been howling like monkeys about its the “amazing achievements” and what your deflection reply says to me is that you knowledge that they really aren’t so great but we are here anyways…… gf…or whatever. My point proven.

Just sayin…….

Dr. Shot

Yonker
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.04 18:01:00 - [353]
 

We're terrible at this game, I don't think we disagree there.

Soggybottom
Gallente
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.04 18:05:00 - [354]
 

Note to pubbies. We don't care how Kenny dies, so long as they die.

Dramaticus
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.04 18:15:00 - [355]
 

Originally by: Himo Amasacia
Originally by: Talon Scorpio



Moot claim. The hard part was done for you by Haarg. Breaking sov would have been impossible otherwise. Clear out sov 4 instantaneously in any region and all that's left is scavenging the remains.
So basically what we have here is one person who pushed a button at the behest of a man with a great deal of character but no morality, and a horde of scavengers who swamed in and gobbled everything up in a land grab.
That is an achievement. I understand now. Thank you.


Hey remember when a disgruntled Goon director dropped sov in DG-, and you swept in and took sov and took the system... oh wait.. you failed miserably. Because with all sov gone we still pushed you out of the system. Just like you failed miserably in everything in the south. And R2tj When we successfully defended the system and lost sov anyway, yet still held together despite our jump link getting cut (and still not losing the system 4 weeks later)

Here's the deal. Haarg dropped everything in Delve to the same point it had been all the time before scaled sov was introduced. It was basically sov 1, which was the way it had been for 3 years. You had your infrastructure in place with all the accumulated wealth of 5 years of exploits sitting right there waiting to be used. We had to move the infrastructure of an entire alliance, set it up, drop towers in systems where you already had towers claiming (which means you all knew about it the moment we dropped every tower), protect our convoys all the way from fyeth through hostile territory AND start fighting you from day one ALL AT THE SAME TIME. I had to go though 4 dangerous convoys to get my stuff down, and I still have stuff left behind up there.

Haarg Leveled the playing field to uneven.

If you had put up any kind of fight we would have been fighting to push you outside the w6- constellation when your sov 3 kicked in. Your resistance collapsed after 3 days. (Example, The Last fight for J-L had a total of ONE BOB member in the enemy fleet, Tholarim. The rest was your pets) You fled to NPC space after a week and a half and then you sat there claiming you really had nothing there while we burned Delve to the ground.

You lost Delve because you are pathetic, and didn't deserve to hold it and probably never did.

But hey. Thanks for admitting you will never get delve back because "Breaking sov would have been impossible otherwise" Just like it was impossible to break Sov 4 in Period basis a few weeks ago with your alliance defending it.

You are pathetic. Here's a hanky. Now if you don't mind, I'm off to shoot some towers. Come out and stop me.


goddamn son

BiaXia
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.04 18:18:00 - [356]
 

Originally by: Soggybottom
Note to pubbies. We don't care how Kenny dies, so long as they die.


But don't you see? Kenny will never die and that is why you will lose!

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2009.06.04 18:49:00 - [357]
 

Well, everyone can claim a victory and they will.

Let's think longer-term. Let's try to think in broader terms than the simple Goon/Kenny grudge match, shall we? When you look at the South as a whole, there is a large and powerful 'anti-goon' coalition in the process of cementing.

Look at the sov map. What do you see?

Goons have Delve. Well done. Then, after that, things start to look more interesting.

Eosteria
Paragon Soul
Feyth
Omist
Immensea
Tenerifis
and, shortly, Detorid

The combined moon income is greater than the space goons have gained, by a large factor. Before this confict began, these regions belonged to Goons and their allies in the south. Now they don't.

But there is more than just moon income. There is manpower. Stainwagon are growing. ATLAS are little short of a new superpower, fielding 100 caps alone daily. AAA are richer than they ever have been. RED Overlord have a secure home, and income. Aggression are showing great promise, and have the numbers to make use of their new space.

The overall balance of power in the south has completely shifted, and it will shortly be 'Goons in Delve'... then 'everyone else'.

The NC, who we all know have no love for the Goons, won't be there to hold hands forever, and the moment they let go, Goons can kiss goodbye to their space. Of course, this is all conjecture. But it's based in logical reasoning.
Killing Kenny may, ironically, be Goonswarms death sentence. And the amusing thing is, it is entirely self-imposed.

Enjoy Wink



Soggybottom
Gallente
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.04 18:51:00 - [358]
 

I didn't bother to read butter dog's words, but if he's in this thread then Kenny must be doing something. (in game)

Dramaticus
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.04 18:53:00 - [359]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
Well, everyone can claim a victory and they will.

Let's think longer-term. Let's try to think in broader terms than the simple Goon/Kenny grudge match, shall we? When you look at the South as a whole, there is a large and powerful 'anti-goon' coalition in the process of cementing.

Look at the sov map. What do you see?

Goons have Delve. Well done. Then, after that, things start to look more interesting.

Eosteria
Paragon Soul
Feyth
Omist
Immensea
Tenerifis
and, shortly, Detorid

The combined moon income is greater than the space goons have gained, by a large factor. Before this confict began, these regions belonged to Goons and their allies in the south. Now they don't.

But there is more than just moon income. There is manpower. Stainwagon are growing. ATLAS are little short of a new superpower, fielding 100 caps alone daily. AAA are richer than they ever have been. RED Overlord have a secure home, and income. Aggression are showing great promise, and have the numbers to make use of their new space.

The overall balance of power in the south has completely shifted, and it will shortly be 'Goons in Delve'... then 'everyone else'.

The NC, who we all know have no love for the Goons, won't be there to hold hands forever, and the moment they let go, Goons can kiss goodbye to their space. Of course, this is all conjecture. But it's based in logical reasoning.
Killing Kenny may, ironically, be Goonswarms death sentence. And the amusing thing is, it is entirely self-imposed.

Enjoy Wink





yes grand advice from the Sun Tzu of ISS.

Bobbechk
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.04 18:55:00 - [360]
 

Originally by: Soggybottom
I didn't bother to read butter dog's words, but if he's in this thread then Kenny must be doing something. (in game)


Or nothing, one can only guess


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