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Mykpilot
Gallente
Stardust Heavy Industries
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2009.05.25 22:31:00 - [1]
 

You've been assigned FC and been told you can take up to 20 pilots and whatever sub-cap ships you want. The cost of the ships has to be under 1 billion isk (based on approx empire space prices).

You are preparing for a conflict with another FC with the same restriction and you will be confined to a single system starting at a random point in the system.

How would pick the ships?

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2009.05.25 22:53:00 - [2]
 

20 rooks! try and see them shoot then :P

Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.05.25 23:18:00 - [3]
 

Well, 20 Armageddons in an RR setup would fit. That would be a strong showing.

Atreus Tac
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.05.25 23:20:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Atreus Tac on 25/05/2009 23:21:04
20 stealth bombers and just **** them off with bombing run and torp runs.

also 20 rooks for 1 bill i wish.

{edit} 20 geddons as well, i doubt it.

1bil/20=50mill

EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2009.05.25 23:22:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: EVIL SYNNs on 25/05/2009 23:22:38
1 BILLION ISK 20 pilots

thats 50M each.. and people are talking about 20 rooks and 20 RR BS! I want to know where your buying your ships?

<edit> Just ninja'ed in there didn't you!

Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.05.25 23:24:00 - [6]
 

Lol, 15 geddons and 5 Arbies is what I thought I posted...weird.

Unfamed II
Caldari
NPC Corporation
Paisti Syndicate
Posted - 2009.05.25 23:48:00 - [7]
 

Interbus shuttle.

Atreus Tac
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.05.26 00:04:00 - [8]
 

get as many guardians as you can then fill the rest with plated thoraxes. lest say you get 9 guardians, they can beat that with 1bill.

or something like 15 kitsunes and 5 keres or inites (taranis). spend whats left getting intell on the other fleet and fit jammers accordingly

Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.05.26 01:39:00 - [9]
 

20 slashers.

Information Broker
Posted - 2009.05.26 01:58:00 - [10]
 

20 Velators ftw?

Jimmy Duce
Chaotic Tranquility
Posted - 2009.05.26 02:16:00 - [11]
 

The main problem is the 20 pilots...
3 black birds [ roughly 20 mill?]
4 RR BSs [Megas? Apocs? 800 mill?]
[7 people 820 mill]
4 Executors [50 km armor rep is ur friend 30 mill]
[11 people 850 mill]
150 mill left... 9 ships
5 caracals "sniper and sensor damps" [50 mill?]
[16 people 900 mill]
4 people 100 mill left
1 myrm [unrigged but some RR and drone pew 50 mill]
3 people 50 mill left


meh 3 plated thoraxes

Dimitrios Ypsilanti
Posted - 2009.05.26 02:45:00 - [12]
 

1x Sleipnir
1x Claymore
18x Hurricane

Dimitrios Ypsilanti
Posted - 2009.05.26 02:45:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Dimitrios Ypsilanti on 26/05/2009 02:45:54
Damned double post.

Hayaishi
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics
Posted - 2009.05.26 05:42:00 - [14]
 

20 t2 rr plated myrmidons.

/thread

Arthello
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.05.26 12:19:00 - [15]
 

1bill isn't all that if you have to divide it by 20. I would go light&fast myself.

- +10 interceptors of which at least half is 28.8km tacklers. In case you run into some nasty stuff like heavy neuts.
- 5 bombers where all are T2 torp fitted. Sometimes you need that extra range and with +80km you'll have a good chance to break off in case someone's intercepting you. Might even drop the mandatory target painter for a sensor disruptor (range scripted) in case a sniper decides to open up on you.
- Recons for the rest. A couple of Falcons are lifesavers.

15-20 man gangs in mainly frig hulls are nasty. You can completely dictate your battlezone and with the recent bomber buff you got plenty of dps to take down just about anything, as long as the bomber pilots know what they're doing. With ceptors scrambling/webbing those torps will hit like freighttrains. If the enemy get reinforcements you just disengage and gtfo.

Cheap and very potent as long as you don't attack a similar sized HAC gang head-on. If you decide to engage use hit&run tactics.

Neacail
Posted - 2009.05.26 12:39:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Neacail on 26/05/2009 12:40:15
Well is it 1 bil initial cost or 1 bil after insurance? If the latter, 50 mil per person is more than enough to pay for 20 RR BS. If the former, any combination of T2 frigs. Or a fleet with a few recons and the rest SBs.

lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2009.05.26 13:26:00 - [17]
 

1bil isk, 20 people, 40 ruptures, tons of fun

Atreus Tac
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.05.26 15:01:00 - [18]
 

atm i cant see any that will beat my kitsune setup, yes some could just run (the inty ones) but other than that you will win

Avious Tylepthine
Minmatar
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.05.26 17:05:00 - [19]
 

1x Kronos
19x t1 frigates.

Why? because you can.

Aglarond
Posted - 2009.05.26 17:26:00 - [20]
 

lol 15 interceptors and 5 stealth bombers :p Never underestimate the power of a fleet like this :p

This would be peticularly effective if you know the other FC likes bigger ships.

On a side note, I would really like to see a fleet of 20+ rooks one day.. Especially now that they can use drones YARRRR!!

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2009.05.26 17:39:00 - [21]
 

Take the 1 billion.
???
Profit!

IronGoldenEagle
The New Era
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2009.05.26 17:48:00 - [22]
 

How? Well I would first whine that I had been pciked in the first place, whine that I was being set up to fail, whine at only 1 bil isk, cry on the channels for volunteers, spin a bottle, ask Evil Synns for advice, promptly disregard advice Very Happy, fit 20 assault frigs, cry myself to sleep.

Neacail
Posted - 2009.05.26 17:56:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Neacail on 26/05/2009 17:56:33
How about 12-15 lachesis/huginns (they're cheap!) and 5 T2 frigs of choice (inties preferably)? Frigs do the initial tackle while the recons stay out of range by using damps and webs. Sure, damps suck, but not when 10 people are using them.

You're essentially immune to ECM due to high base sensor strength (only a few will get jammed and many cycles will be missed), anything frig or cruiser sized will die in seconds, BC and BS sized ships will get damped well below point/web range.

Of course this would be better with Arazus and Rapiers, but those are far more expensive.

Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2009.05.26 18:05:00 - [24]
 

Battlecruisers with some ECM support.

Esna Pitoojee
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
Posted - 2009.05.26 18:43:00 - [25]
 

20 Arbitrators, all launching large ECM drones and carrying ECMs in the mids. 2x medium remote reps in the highs, 2x lasers.

If you do manage to get a target, good luck doing enough damage to overwhelm the remote reppers.

But you ask, how am I blowing 50m ISK on each cruiser? Rigs, baby. Either CCC or Trimark armor. Cool

Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2009.05.26 19:06:00 - [26]
 

I'd buy a bunch of cheep fleet rifters.. Then pocket the rest of the isk.. I'm isk poor so that's what I'd do.. Razz

RedSplat
Posted - 2009.05.26 19:33:00 - [27]
 

19 1500 DPS + Gank Phoons and one covops for a warpin.

Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2009.05.26 19:44:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Mutnin on 26/05/2009 19:47:02

Originally by: Neacail
Edited by: Neacail on 26/05/2009 17:56:33
How about 12-15 lachesis/huginns (they're cheap!) and 5 T2 frigs of choice (inties preferably)? Frigs do the initial tackle while the recons stay out of range by using damps and webs. Sure, damps suck, but not when 10 people are using them.

You're essentially immune to ECM due to high base sensor strength (only a few will get jammed and many cycles will be missed), anything frig or cruiser sized will die in seconds, BC and BS sized ships will get damped well below point/web range.

Of course this would be better with Arazus and Rapiers, but those are far more expensive.


Judging by the OP, I'd guess this would be a pre-planed brawl, so ships just for tackle would be a waste. You would want as much gank as possible and fleet members that understood what a primary is.

I'd then split the gang into two groups.. Each with their own primaries and the FC would be out of range in a command ship with with gang links.

Neacail
Posted - 2009.05.26 19:55:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Mutnin
Edited by: Mutnin on 26/05/2009 19:47:02

Originally by: Neacail
Edited by: Neacail on 26/05/2009 17:56:33
How about 12-15 lachesis/huginns (they're cheap!) and 5 T2 frigs of choice (inties preferably)? Frigs do the initial tackle while the recons stay out of range by using damps and webs. Sure, damps suck, but not when 10 people are using them.

You're essentially immune to ECM due to high base sensor strength (only a few will get jammed and many cycles will be missed), anything frig or cruiser sized will die in seconds, BC and BS sized ships will get damped well below point/web range.

Of course this would be better with Arazus and Rapiers, but those are far more expensive.


Judging by the OP, I'd guess this would be a pre-planed brawl, so ships just for tackle would be a waste. You would want as much gank as possible and fleet members that understood what a primary is.

I'd then split the gang into two groups.. Each with their own primaries and the FC would be out of range in a command ship with with gang links.

Oh yeah. I completely forgot about the terms established in the contents of the OP when I made my second post in this thread.

Given that, I would go with RedSplat's suggestion.

soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2009.05.26 22:10:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Take the 1 billion.
???
Profit!


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