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Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.05.25 16:40:00 - [181]
 

Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Question : Is it time CCP created a new instance of eve universe (like Wow etc)


Yes, and you should be its only inhabitant.



Oooh good solution, sir!

Doomed Predator
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.05.25 17:42:00 - [182]
 

Man,why do these topics always crop up every month. Apart from China there will be no more than 1 version of the EVE universe.

Ms Delerium
Posted - 2009.05.25 17:45:00 - [183]
 

lol @ people thinking there is just 1 server.

There are 5000 servers, each system is like a different server. Thats why jumping to another system takes some seconds... and thats why Jita is slow and Perimeter is smooth.


Usuotas
Posted - 2009.05.25 17:52:00 - [184]
 

Server is a general term for game world. So if the time comes when there will be more eve "servers" i bet 1/3 of the people would leave... Having only 1 "server" sets eve from other games appart. So no, this will never be like WoW.

Washell Olivaw
Posted - 2009.05.25 17:57:00 - [185]
 

Originally by: Ms Delerium
lol @ people thinking there is just 1 server.

There are 5000 servers, each system is like a different server. Thats why jumping to another system takes some seconds... and thats why Jita is slow and Perimeter is smooth.




Tranquility is a single EVE server. Its hardware configuration is indeed a servercluster. And no, they don't have 5000 servers. They have somewhere between 300 to 500 blades active in TQ, I lost count. Most/all blades are multicore/cpu. Each core within a blade is a node. Only a handful of systems run on a dedicated node, jita is one of them.

In closing, if you're going to lol at someone, get your facts right.

Disclaimer: the above is a real short and incomplete summary of TQ hardware/functioning.

Nasirr
Posted - 2009.05.25 20:00:00 - [186]
 

Either way, quite a bit of people feel the same as Queen does. They are not the board warriors majority either. I would be all for another shard, and im sure the new players would as well. Time in this game is power and something that can never be gained in the current state of TQ.

Hopefully CCP will remedy this somehow with either a new shard or something that entices the newer players to stay. If not quite a few will be leaving soon when a few said new sci-fi games come out.

Being pioneers and equal opportunities outweigh what we have here.

Ronha Ottrit
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.05.25 20:55:00 - [187]
 

Originally by: Nasirr
Either way, quite a bit of people feel the same as Queen does. They are not the board warriors majority either. I would be all for another shard, and im sure the new players would as well. Time in this game is power and something that can never be gained in the current state of TQ.

Hopefully CCP will remedy this somehow with either a new shard or something that entices the newer players to stay. If not quite a few will be leaving soon when a few said new sci-fi games come out.

Being pioneers and equal opportunities outweigh what we have here.



This is 100% false bullcrap.

You don't start wow in top tier set. You might not ever get it. most people never earn top arena gear. Eq2 doesn't start you at max level or gear. You earn it.

Eve skills are forgiving, most people have around 30mil to 40mil sp on the server. You can also legitly buy higher sp chars with ingame money. Can't do that anywhere else. Also if you specialize you cap out eventually. The only reward in eve for time is wealth, experience in a profession ie pvp or building, and the ability for one char to fly multiple things well. Once core skills are out of the way

Johan Sabbat
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.05.25 20:58:00 - [188]
 

Originally by: Nasirr
Either way, quite a bit of people feel the same as Queen does. They are not the board warriors majority either. I would be all for another shard, and im sure the new players would as well. Time in this game is power and something that can never be gained in the current state of TQ.

Hopefully CCP will remedy this somehow with either a new shard or something that entices the newer players to stay. If not quite a few will be leaving soon when a few said new sci-fi games come out.

Being pioneers and equal opportunities outweigh what we have here.


I just wonder how you would be a pioneer if you already know how to do things?

You are just asking for virgin land where you start at a significant advantage.

Rumour has it that blizzard doing a sci-fi mmorpg, maybe that would be what you're looking for?

Apotamkin
Posted - 2009.05.25 23:20:00 - [189]
 

Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 24/05/2009 21:49:46
Serious topic..if you gonna troll please dont...

Question : Is it time CCP created a new instance of eve universe (like Wow etc)

Reason :
Eve has now become saturated pretty much, 0.0 is now totally controlled by the major powerblocs, massive napfests etc, resources drained etc. Its now increasingly difficult for corps/alliances to recruit just by the sheer number of new corps/alliances, almost impossible for new alliances, or smaller alliances to gain sov space without being crushed by the major napfests/powerblocs.
Is it time to now give all the up and coming newer players/alliances etc the same chance 4/5/6 year old players had? To be able to build a new universe from scratch, the pave new horizons, alliances etc without out the constraints of the current situation? Me i think so...be interesting to know what people think...of course keep the current instance also lol, i dont mean remove the current one, just create a new separate one.


POST WITH YOUR MAIN Wink





I agree.

Solj RichPopolous
Amarr
Templars of Space
Northern Associates.
Posted - 2009.05.26 10:01:00 - [190]
 

Edited by: Solj RichPopolous on 26/05/2009 10:10:28

Quote:
So, what would be the point in playing for that period of time other than to lose everything you've worked for? The better solution would be to find out what causes the stagnation, and then work towards solving that. One of the major appeals of EVE is that it is one major server for everyone.


Easy way to solve the stagnation of alliances claiming everything around them problem. Make it skill based.

Corporate Infrastructure Rank 22
+3 Allowed Sov Systems Corporation can hold per level. CEO skill
Must be trained before a corp can even gain sov via their towers for their alliance.

Alliance Infrastructure Rank 28
+18-30?? Allowed Sov Systems for Alliance as a whole. CEO skill for executor corp.

Space becomes more consolidated. And no longer can any one entity hold giant chunks of space anymore. Systems sov claimed become more strategic and are actually used by the alliance instead of just being claimed just because they are there. Because there is a limit to how much can be held.

Jan Deltord
Posted - 2009.05.26 10:14:00 - [191]
 

Solj,

Still wont work, as Alliances are defined by shared blue lists, intel channels, vent servers and fleet structures, not by being a formal CCP-defined alliance of corps.

Whether you call them minor allies, pets, renters or partners, they still all have the capability of acting as coherently as a formal CCP-defined alliance of corps.

PS IRC is doing just this right now - they've invited a bunch of smaller players to live in Etherium Reach, but not to be formally part of the IRC alliance. Once the teething problems of blues with neightbours get sorted out, it all should work well

Demos Mast
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.05.26 10:19:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: Ms Delerium
lol @ people thinking there is just 1 server.

There are 5000 servers, each system is like a different server. Thats why jumping to another system takes some seconds... and thats why Jita is slow and Perimeter is smooth.




Ahhhh man its like...You try so damn hard to sound intelligent, but everyone just knows your saying "THATS NOT A FOREST, ITS JUST A BUNCHA TREES!"

Why do people make posts like this?

Valrandir
Gallente
Distant Thunder
Perihelion Alliance
Posted - 2009.05.26 10:57:00 - [193]
 

Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 24/05/2009 21:49:46
Serious topic..if you gonna troll please dont...

Question : Is it time CCP created a new instance of eve universe (like Wow etc)

Reason :
Eve has now become saturated pretty much, 0.0 is now totally controlled by the major powerblocs, massive napfests etc, resources drained etc. Its now increasingly difficult for corps/alliances to recruit just by the sheer number of new corps/alliances, almost impossible for new alliances, or smaller alliances to gain sov space without being crushed by the major napfests/powerblocs.
Is it time to now give all the up and coming newer players/alliances etc the same chance 4/5/6 year old players had? To be able to build a new universe from scratch, the pave new horizons, alliances etc without out the constraints of the current situation? Me i think so...be interesting to know what people think...of course keep the current instance also lol, i dont mean remove the current one, just create a new separate one.


POST WITH YOUR MAIN Wink




no


I thought that after this many pages, I'll add something.


Caelum Mortuos
Gallente
Zero G Research and Development
Posted - 2009.05.26 11:52:00 - [194]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Question : Is it time CCP created a new instance of eve universe (like Wow etc)


Yes, and you should be its only inhabitant.



Oooh good solution, sir!


Thirding this!

Also, EVE IS DYING! Unless we get 10 million subscribers by next year and then overtake WoW it's all over guys SadSadSad

Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2009.05.26 11:55:00 - [195]
 

OP, help the population decrease a bit and GTFO.

Diehard Si
0utbreak
Outbreak.
Posted - 2009.05.26 12:19:00 - [196]
 

To be fair just reset the current server!

Solves all the problems that have occured like T2 bpo's handed out to a few, reaction exploiters making trillions. at the same time just re-invent the whole pos thing and sov space, cos my god its terrible.

Make everyone go back to having to work at just getting a BS let alone anything else. No 15 a-side titan battles where first to hit DD wins.

Isk sellers would be out of business, real life traders screwed.

It would be a shame to lose all those SP's etc, but my god it would be good fun again. Very Happy I'm not saying i'd want this to happen, but i think it certainly would make the game a lot more fun again.

Baron Aethon
Coffee Sipper's Club
Posted - 2009.05.26 12:42:00 - [197]
 

No new server because they can't even run this one properly.

But what I would suggest to limit power blocs and make the game fun again is:

1) remove jump-bridges; with capitals and titans the game is already too easy to get around anyways

2) Remove reinforcement of towers, pure destruction only. You can even buff the towers hp a bit, but no reinforced.

3) Move ice out of high sec, make the powerblocs work to fuel their pos, reduce macro miners, and increase ice mining profits to make it a viable profession.

4) Eliminate 0.0 Local. Make those alliances actually search for those roaming in their space, then maybe they wouldnt want to control half the map with only 3000 members.

Call me crazy if you want, but those 4 changes would make controlling large parts of 0.0 almost impossible and open warfare up to lots of smaller corps and alliances.

Holy Lowlander
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.05.26 12:56:00 - [198]
 

No it isn't .

and to the op , post with your main ;-)

Adeline Grey
Posted - 2009.05.26 13:00:00 - [199]
 

Originally by: Ronha Ottrit
Originally by: Nasirr
Either way, quite a bit of people feel the same as Queen does. They are not the board warriors majority either. I would be all for another shard, and im sure the new players would as well. Time in this game is power and something that can never be gained in the current state of TQ.

Hopefully CCP will remedy this somehow with either a new shard or something that entices the newer players to stay. If not quite a few will be leaving soon when a few said new sci-fi games come out.

Being pioneers and equal opportunities outweigh what we have here.



This is 100% false bullcrap.

You don't start wow in top tier set. You might not ever get it. most people never earn top arena gear. Eq2 doesn't start you at max level or gear. You earn it.


No, but I started WoW when it came out and I am in almost 100% the bets gear for my Shaman and always have been since back in the Molten Core days. In Eve, I will never be as strong as a 100m SP character nor have as much ISK as someone who started years before me.

Nir Draturiss
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.05.26 13:09:00 - [200]
 

Making a new instance/shard is a pointless effort simply because the instance will simply end up with the exact SAME fate as the current server. It will be nice and dandy at first but once the power blocs are formed and increased in size, they will find themselves in the same situation as the Tranquility server.

Fact of the matter is : is the current situation a problem in the first place or is it working as CCP intended anyway?

So the OP suggestion, while honest, is redundant and futile since it will only doubles CCP's problems and not solve anything whatsoever.

Arrs Grazznic
Poena Executive Solutions
Posted - 2009.05.26 13:21:00 - [201]
 

Didn't read the 7 pages of this thread, but it wouldn't change my answer.

No, it is not time for a new instance.

Cheers,
Arrs

baltec1
Posted - 2009.05.26 13:25:00 - [202]
 

Originally by: Arrs Grazznic
Didn't read the 7 pages of this thread, but it wouldn't change my answer.





Please do its rather entertaining.

Nur Vadenn
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2009.05.26 14:01:00 - [203]
 

Its a shame this idea was brought up by this particular OP. The idea has some merit, but was poorly represented here.

While I agree with the majority of posters here that a second shard may be premature, I do think a significant expansion of systems and resources is in order for Tranquility. A major addition of empire high-sec, low-sec, and NPC 0.0 would provide much needed breathing room to a steadily increasing population. An increase in systems would also improve the opportunities that new players have to be trail blazers and/or create groups of their own whom might later mature to challenge the already established corporations or alliances out there.

For even me, a relatively new player, just a year ago the universe seemed larger and less cramped. Sections of space that were once empty are not anymore. Resources seem to be more scarce, and rather than the conflict one would expect this would create the shortages seem to be more powerful in disinteresting people rather than pushing them to fight over the resources.


Trhendor
Amarr
Hikage Corporation
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2009.05.26 14:13:00 - [204]
 

No, i like EVE because there is only universe for everyone, a game, a universe, a common environment for EVERYONE

Systems aren't crowder and 0.0 isn't saturated, CCP just have to make better server and everyone will be fine.

Old players? As far as i know, every new player can, with the right effort, can conquist and keep a place in 0.0, with the right effort and cooperation skill

Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
Posted - 2009.05.26 15:01:00 - [205]
 

Meh, there's enough room on the server. There's just too many people in highsec, and even then they're just not spread out enough. Some more highsec might help, but it would only be a matter of time before the same problem resurfaced. No, I think the only proper solution is to make a "Carebear world" where pvp is optional. Let the "dreaded" carebears carebear it out on a separate server.

Make it so that you can move your current character TO the "carebearland" server, but NOT BACK to tranquility. No more whining on the forums, no more complaining that carebears have it too good, probably no more need for concord, or highsec for that matter. No more carebears ruining the economy, no more overcorwded highsec.

Just my 2pence

Jack Gilligan
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.05.26 15:01:00 - [206]
 

IF they ever add more instances, I think they should be time zone based. IE: a Russian server, a EU server, etc.

Hellsanne
Posted - 2009.05.26 15:27:00 - [207]
 

ehm, because of this is eve what it is, great, because all players are always on one server, one instance, one "world/space", you just cant take wow and compare it to eve, they have only one thing same, they are mmorpg, then everything is different, same also for playerbase, dont want to change game because you have problems playing it like it is, then dont play it

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2009.05.26 15:31:00 - [208]
 

to the OP
No, no, no and no
don't you get it?

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.05.26 16:02:00 - [209]
 

Originally by: Jack Gilligan
IF they ever add more instances, I think they should be time zone based. IE: a Russian server, a EU server, etc.



Yeah can see how that would be convenient for ED right now... Razz

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.05.26 16:03:00 - [210]
 

Originally by: Fille Balle
Meh, there's enough room on the server. There's just too many people in highsec, and even then they're just not spread out enough. Some more highsec might help, but it would only be a matter of time before the same problem resurfaced. No, I think the only proper solution is to make a "Carebear world" where pvp is optional. Let the "dreaded" carebears carebear it out on a separate server.

Make it so that you can move your current character TO the "carebearland" server, but NOT BACK to tranquility. No more whining on the forums, no more complaining that carebears have it too good, probably no more need for concord, or highsec for that matter. No more carebears ruining the economy, no more overcorwded highsec.

Just my 2pence


Heh.


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