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The PitBoss
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage |
Posted - 2009.05.19 17:04:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: The PitBoss on 28/05/2009 17:29:25Please look into the mechanics of Neutral/Alt remote repping and their Aggression. Current Game MechanicA Neutral/Alt remote repper can rep someone under attack. The repper is aggro'd to the attacker. The repper DOES NOT get an aggression timer in the effect that they may DOCK UP -or- JUMP through a gate leaving them half assed free for sticking their nose into a fight. There is no real risk for the repper and he may disengage after turning the tide of a battle at ANY TIME. Game Mechanic Example- I war dec a corporation .... one of its pilots decides to flaunt a ship I can easily kill infront of me.
- I start shooting the ship ... all of a sudden his ALT (who is hugging a station -or- a warp gate) starts remote repping him
- His alt is now aggressed to me ... leaving me the option to shoot the original target -or- shoot the remote repper.
- So if I shoot the remote repper ... he is allowed to dock up or jump through the gate anytime he feels comfortable ... He doesn't have to wait the NORMAL 1 minute de-aggro to do so. In which I could probably kill him during that de-aggro time and punish him for sticking his nose in our war.
- If I ignore the repper ... i'm fighting a losing battle against a ship i can normally take.
Suggested FixNORMAL aggression timer when concerning DOCKING & Gate JUMPING ... which is 14 mins ... which 1 minute of that you can't dock -or- jump. |
Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
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Posted - 2009.05.20 14:40:00 - [ 2]
Suggested fix that is already implemented:
1. stop pvp'ing in empire
2. stop playing station games
3. ??????????????????????????
4. profit!
No need for additional fixes.
Not supported. |
Tyleritus
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.05.20 23:40:00 - [ 3]
Supported
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Dimension Overlord
TEMPLAR.
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.05.20 23:45:00 - [ 4]
supported 100% |
McAcabtr
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.05.20 23:47:00 - [ 5]
I heard this was classed as common sense is this why its not been implemented with the rest of the aggression mechanics? |
sukmanobov
Minmatar
The Priesthood
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2009.05.20 23:48:00 - [ 6]
Edited by: sukmanobov on 06/05/2010 23:14:59
Edited by: sukmanobov on 20/05/2009 23:49:08
supported.
Repping alts have a easy life. time to shake it up alittle buy giving them agrrestion timers,
don't forget that RR ships don't need guns if your just repping so you can have a huge tank to wait out the agression timer.
I don't see the problem with them getting agression timers.
Adding and abetting the enemy!
Editing: for PB's reincarnation of this post 05/05/10
I now have a alt that can RR silly amounts of armor/sheilds only because everyone else does it and its near impossible to fight WT's/CanFlippers now without it.
I still agree with no out of corp remote reppers and would be glad to move my alt into privs if thats whats needed. tbh tho get a pair of B**ls and actauly fight 1v1 or gtfo of the game and go play somin else i do not use my RR unless they bring out there own. I took a hyperion down to 5% hull in a Cane whilest my alt watched as he did not use RR/neutrals only his local rep mods this was a fair fight and a bloody good one! coudos to that pilot for actualy having the B**ls to fight me fairly. |
ElvisKlump
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Posted - 2009.05.20 23:50:00 - [ 7]
Adding my support i'm looking forward to starting eve 100% and when I do i'm going to War Dec. |
Sombra Escarlate
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.20 23:51:00 - [ 8]
1.war declarations are there to allow PvP in empire woot woot but your belief that we only PvP in empire is wrong to start with  2.so i suppose no one EVER camps a station in low sec or 0.0 mmm o.0 3.  4.thx for the lootz \o/ i support this so that anyone getting involved in a fight has the same jeopardy as anyone else involved in the war |
V0rtigern
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Posted - 2009.05.20 23:55:00 - [ 9]
If you interfere with a PVP action you deserve the same consequence this is EvE after all, actions must have a consequence! |
XapiD |
Posted - 2009.05.20 23:59:00 - [ 10]
Supported. |
morpherio
Amarr
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
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Posted - 2009.05.21 00:17:00 - [ 11]
makes sense! |
Angela Constantine
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
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Posted - 2009.05.21 01:14:00 - [ 12]
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Kretin
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.21 01:23:00 - [ 13]
Definitely supported |
Yarik Mendel
Amarr
Red Horizon Inc
Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2009.05.21 02:08:00 - [ 14]
supported |
Kilz0r
Gallente
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2009.05.21 02:50:00 - [ 15]
this is so broken right now, anyone can screw with anyone's fight without a shred of consequence.
supported. |
Greenlike ish
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Posted - 2009.05.21 05:05:00 - [ 16]
I support |
Ignition SemperFi
No Falcons Allowed
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Posted - 2009.05.21 05:40:00 - [ 17]
supported as long as its only docking and gate jumping aggression that comes into play.
just like if you rep someone with a GCC, the remote repper gets a gcc.
It shouldnt bring concord though if you rep someone, due to abuse, just the aggression timer |
Brother Agenos
Maelstrom Crew
Paradigm Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.21 08:19:00 - [ 18]
supported |
Gigolo Jo
Gallente
Method of Destruction
Privateer Alliance |
Posted - 2009.05.21 09:51:00 - [ 19]
supported |
Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.21 11:36:00 - [ 20]
 Originally by: Ignition SemperFi
supported as long as its only docking and gate jumping aggression that comes into play.
just like if you rep someone with a GCC, the remote repper gets a gcc.
It shouldnt bring concord though if you rep someone, due to abuse, just the aggression timer
Agreed and supported |
Soldis
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.21 12:23:00 - [ 21]
supported |
Lee Dalton
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.21 12:37:00 - [ 22]
Edited by: Lee Dalton on 21/05/2009 12:37:02
Supported yet again. |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.05.21 12:41:00 - [ 23]
Dear God supported! |
Xiaodown
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.05.21 13:20:00 - [ 24]
Originally by: Hardin
Originally by: Ignition SemperFi
supported as long as its only docking and gate jumping aggression that comes into play.
just like if you rep someone with a GCC, the remote repper gets a gcc.
It shouldnt bring concord though if you rep someone, due to abuse, just the aggression timer
Agreed and supported
Supporting this because it needs to be supported. And because Hardin is cool. |
boardin
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Posted - 2009.05.21 14:37:00 - [ 25]
Supported |
Johncrab
Minmatar
Teram Odator Rilfur Pegastur
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Posted - 2009.05.21 14:44:00 - [ 26]
Agreed, supported and shouting for changes |
Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
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Posted - 2009.05.21 15:38:00 - [ 27]
Originally by: Sombra Escarlate
1.war declarations are there to allow PvP in empire woot woot but your belief that we only PvP in empire is wrong to start with
2.so i suppose no one EVER camps a station in low sec or 0.0 mmm o.0
3.
4.thx for the lootz \o/
i support this so that anyone getting involved in a fight has the same jeopardy as anyone else involved in the war
1. Never said any such thing. Whatever you're smoking, stop smoking it. I just said stop doing it in empire. 2. Lowsec is also part empire fyi. Many systems in 0.0 don't have stations in them, and you can shoot whoever you like in 0.0, without worrying about concord. Besides, I never said any such thing. I said: stop playing station games. Problem solved. 3. Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to startle you  4. As long as you're in empire, you won't get any of my loot  0/10 try again |
Political Prisoner
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2009.05.21 15:41:00 - [ 28]
risk -vs- reward ... imbalance here ... support
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Sacha Sinclair
Caldari
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2009.05.21 17:26:00 - [ 29]
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spinarax
Spawns of Thanatos
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.05.21 17:30:00 - [ 30]
/supported Originally by: Fille Balle
Suggested fix that is already implemented:
1. stop pvp'ing in empire
2. stop playing station games
3. ??????????????????????????
4. profit!
No need for additional fixes.
Not supported.
this also involves gates and do you even understand agro mechanics? this have nothing to do with where you pvp. |
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