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Sophine Fortre 
Posted  2009.05.08 03:11:00  [ 1]
lets assume the following: a = b Now, we do stuff a^2 = ab :multiply by a a^2  b^2 = ab  b^2 :subtract b squared (a  b)(a + b) = b(a  b) :factor them a + b = b :divide by (ab) b + b = b :because a=b 2b = b :combine like terms 2 = 1 :see? 
goodby4u Valor Inc. Valor Empire 
Posted  2009.05.08 03:14:00  [ 2]
Brb im going to dust off the old algebra books. 
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.

Posted  2009.05.08 03:25:00  [ 3]
Edited by: Yakia TovilToba on 08/05/2009 03:26:23 Originally by: Sophine Fortre lets assume the following: a = b Now, we do stuff a^2 = ab :multiply by a a^2  b^2 = ab  b^2 :subtract b squared (a  b)(a + b) = b(a  b) :factor them a + b = b :divide by (ab)
Wrong ! If a=b then ab = 0. You can't divide stuff by 0.
b + b = b :because a=b 2b = b :combine like terms 2 = 1 :see?

Kulmid Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent 
Posted  2009.05.08 03:27:00  [ 4]
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Edited by: Yakia TovilToba on 08/05/2009 03:26:23
Originally by: Sophine Fortre lets assume the following: a = b Now, we do stuff a^2 = ab :multiply by a a^2  b^2 = ab  b^2 :subtract b squared (a  b)(a + b) = b(a  b) :factor them a + b = b :divide by (ab)
Wrong ! If a=b then ab = 0. You can't divide stuff by 0.
b + b = b :because a=b 2b = b :combine like terms 2 = 1 :see?
He beat me to it. 
Sophine Fortre 
Posted  2009.05.08 03:33:00  [ 5]
you guys are no fun :( 
Intense Thinker Minmatar 
Posted  2009.05.08 03:42:00  [ 6]
Pwned 
Dong Ninja 
Posted  2009.05.08 04:07:00  [ 7]
Originally by: Sophine Fortre you guys are no fun :(
Seeing as how your avatar is a woman, it's no surprise you can't do math. 
Atomos Darksun D00M. Northern Coalition. 
Posted  2009.05.08 04:15:00  [ 8]
Originally by: Dong Ninja
Originally by: Sophine Fortre you guys are no fun :(
Seeing as how your avatar is a woman, it's no surprise you can't do math.
http://xkcd.com/385/ 
KingsGambit Caldari Provisions 
Posted  2009.05.08 08:17:00  [ 9]
Originally by: Dong Ninja Seeing as how your avatar is a woman, it's no surprise you can't do math.
Incontrovertible proof 
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force

Posted  2009.05.08 08:49:00  [ 10]

ReaperOfSly Gallente Underworld Protection Agency South Pole Dancers 
Posted  2009.05.08 09:13:00  [ 11]

Dong Ninja 
Posted  2009.05.08 10:48:00  [ 12]
Originally by: ReaperOfSly Oh God, not this AGAIN!
YOU. CAN'T. DIVIDE. BY. ZERO.
You can, you just can't define it with traditional mathematics, because if you have a = b/c, and c=0 then you also have to conclude that a(c) = b, a(0) = b, thus a could be any real number, and is hence just considered undefined. Also, b would equal 0 even if you defined b beforehand, which is why you cannot divide zero by zero, as it's still undefined. There are mathematics that divide by zero, however, and also use imaginary numbers to calculate information (electrical engineering I think is one of the big fields that use imaginary). 
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel

Posted  2009.05.08 10:53:00  [ 13]
Originally by: Dong Ninja
Originally by: ReaperOfSly Oh God, not this AGAIN!
YOU. CAN'T. DIVIDE. BY. ZERO.
You can, you just can't define it with traditional mathematics, because if you have a = b/c, and c=0 then you also have to conclude that a(c) = b, a(0) = b, thus a could be any real number, and is hence just considered undefined. Also, b would equal 0 even if you defined b beforehand, which is why you cannot divide zero by zero, as it's still undefined.
There are mathematics that divide by zero, however, and also use imaginary numbers to calculate information (electrical engineering I think is one of the big fields that use imaginary).
Its people like you that cause todays crashes with all your dividing by zeroness. 
Malvaceae Veri Caldari artemiss' path Corp Legem Terrae 
Posted  2009.05.08 11:41:00  [ 14]
Wtf? You still cant divide by zero on the z plane either.
Sure, one way of complex integration is searching for and integrating around singulairities, but imaginary number are there so you can root negative numbers (oversimplified, yes), not so that you can divide by zero.
Otoh, there truly are some very abstract algebraic form where zero is not a nondivider, but that requires about 6 years of uni math to even begin to understand. 
ReaperOfSly Gallente Underworld Protection Agency South Pole Dancers 
Posted  2009.05.08 14:20:00  [ 15]
Originally by: Dong Ninja
Originally by: ReaperOfSly Oh God, not this AGAIN!
YOU. CAN'T. DIVIDE. BY. ZERO.
You can, you just can't define it with traditional mathematics, because if you have a = b/c, and c=0 then you also have to conclude that a(c) = b, a(0) = b, thus a could be any real number, and is hence just considered undefined. Also, b would equal 0 even if you defined b beforehand, which is why you cannot divide zero by zero, as it's still undefined.
There are mathematics that divide by zero, however, and also use imaginary numbers to calculate information (electrical engineering I think is one of the big fields that use imaginary).
You're talking gobblede****. If a is treated as a function of c and b is nonzero, then we have an asymptote at c=0. If b is zero, then a is 0 everywhere except c = 0 where a is undefined. As for the OP's example, it's just saying 1*0 = 2*0, therefore 1 = 2 which is obviously fallacious. 
Jim McGregor 
Posted  2009.05.08 15:23:00  [ 16]
Originally by: Dong Ninja (electrical engineering I think is one of the big fields that use imaginary).
Yes. And crazy people. 
Intense Thinker Minmatar 
Posted  2009.05.08 17:25:00  [ 17]
"1*0 = 2*0, therefore 1 = 2 which is obviously fallacious." I suck at math but even I know that turns out to be 0 = 0 which is true! 
CCP Tuxford

Posted  2009.05.08 17:29:00  [ 18]
I'm an electrical engineer and afaik I am not allowed to divide by zero. In fact I'm pretty sure that the only person that can divide by zero is Chuck Norris,... maybe Vin Diesel 
Doctor Penguin Amarr Sacred Templars Black Star Alliance 
Posted  2009.05.08 17:47:00  [ 19]
1/0 = Undefined.
It's possible, but not possible at the same time. 
Bullageddon Caldari 
Posted  2009.05.08 19:03:00  [ 20]
Originally by: CCP Tuxford I'm an electrical engineer and afaik I am not allowed to divide by zero. In fact I'm pretty sure that the only person that can divide by zero is Chuck Norris,... maybe Vin Diesel
Chuck Norris because he's awesome, Vin Diesel because he's stupid.. amirite? 
rValdez5987 Amarr Imperial Guard.

Posted  2009.05.09 03:21:00  [ 21]
Originally by: CCP Tuxford I'm an electrical engineer and afaik I am not allowed to divide by zero. In fact I'm pretty sure that the only person that can divide by zero is Chuck Norris,... maybe Vin Diesel
You stole that thought out of my head. I say that all the time. Are we friends? 
Trustworthy Joe Minmatar 
Posted  2009.05.09 06:40:00  [ 22]
Edited by: Trustworthy Joe on 09/05/2009 06:40:29 Originally by: CCP Tuxford I'm an electrical engineer and afaik I am not allowed to divide by zero. In fact I'm pretty sure that the only person that can divide by zero is Chuck Norris,... maybe Vin Diesel
i have designed the CCP formula x = devposts per day Y = boot.ini Z = ner***e X = (Y^2/Z)/(2+nano(TomB/0))*5 ITS SCIENCE I SAY!!! EDIT nerf a ge is censored? 
The Jawbreaker Minmatar Muppet Ninja's 
Posted  2009.05.09 06:48:00  [ 23]
*walks in* ugh OOW brrainmelt! omg *dead* 
Betray Caldari Substitute Traitors

Posted  2009.05.09 11:18:00  [ 24]
Try this: (note, sqr()=square root) i=i //i is sqr(1) as we all knowsqr(1)=sqr(1) //using definition from abovesqr(1/1)=sqr(1/1) //rewrite 1 as a fractionsqr(1)/sqr(1)=sqr(1)/sqr(1) //as we know, sqr(x/y)=sqr(x)/sqr(y)i=1 //cross multiply. x/y=a/b then x*b=y*a1=1 //square both sides2=0 //adds 1 to both sides1=0 //divide by 22=1 //add 1Note, Im not OP, but I support his case for the fun of it! 
ReaperOfSly Gallente Underworld Protection Agency South Pole Dancers 
Posted  2009.05.09 12:10:00  [ 25]

Bismaru's Ambition Amarr Trigrams Edge

Posted  2009.05.09 17:05:00  [ 26]
OMG if my old math teacher saw this thread she would kill herself,.. 
Nefrin Maldoes Minmatar Outer Rim Survey and Salvage

Posted  2009.05.19 03:35:00  [ 27]

Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point 
Posted  2009.05.19 10:02:00  [ 28]
Reminds me a lot of math with matches, only this is math here does not match. 
CCP Atropos

Posted  2009.05.19 10:47:00  [ 29]
Originally by: CCP Tuxford I'm an electrical engineer and afaik I am not allowed to divide by zero. In fact I'm pretty sure that the only person that can divide by zero is Chuck Norris,... maybe Vin Diesel
I'm an electronic engineer, and I divide by zero all the time. 
Reven Cordelle Caldari Total Mayhem. Cry Havoc. 
Posted  2009.05.19 10:48:00  [ 30]
Maths like this is amusing ****. Because its basically proving an irrelevant point by bending the rules for the sake of it.
Its like me saying the sky is green, because I say so. 