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Russul
Posted - 2009.05.05 06:27:00 - [1]
 

Hey folks, new player got into some mining, now looking to get myself a nice ship. I'm trying to find a class of ship where I can be more tactical than just brute strength. I was wondering what would be more effective in PvP: Covert Ops or Electronic Attack Frigates? Keep in mind that I will mostly be solo for a while as I want to adventure (PvE, slight PvP) and see New Eden!

Covert Ops to me seems to be very fun as cloaking, speed, and torpedoes sound interesting. What would be the better ship in that category between the Amarr and Gallente ships? (don't like the Caldari or Minmatar). I liked the Anathema and Nemesis, and Amarr Purifier but I would like some more educated veteran feedback.

Also, would a EAF be viable solo if I do some PvE and the occassional PvP? I really like the Gallente Keres (drones would be very cool) and the thought of EAF's seems very enticing to me: basically shutting down somebody elses systems and rendering their ship ineffective while I fly circles shooting my turrets and deploying a drone or two.

Which would you guys suggest based on your experience. Please provide an explanation along with your answer. And remember I'm still learning. I'm not very fluent with the EVE acronyms just yet ugh

Derek Sigres
Posted - 2009.05.05 06:34:00 - [2]
 

The short answer is neither class of ships will deliver an effective solo PVP ship. Covert ops ships will however give you the ability to travel about the universe in relative safety (it doesn't get much safer than a well fitted covert ops ship actually, though I suppose one might run afoul of the occasional smart bomb spamming battleship that could end a day badly.) In terms of gang PVP performance, again neither is terribly effective but cov ops will give you access to the stealth bomber - which is concievably quite useful if employed correctly.

The EAF's on the other hand are often considered poor investments. In some cases, (such as the kitsune) you get an extremely expensive version of an existing T1 cruiser. In other cases, the myriad flaws (among them, the simple fact that you're in a frigate and therefore are being defended by wet shreds of newspaper) make it an unwise choice thanks to the cost of replacement and your uncanny ability to attract fire.

Overall, my vote would go to the Covert Ops line. Not only do the ships at least provide some of your requirments, they also open up avenues for specilization further on down the road.

Misaniovent
Invicta.
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2009.05.05 06:35:00 - [3]
 

Covert Ops are support ships, finding targets who are hidden in safespots, while providing a target for ships in a fleet to warp to. If you train your probing skills and practice with it, you will be a valuable pilot in a Covert Ops.

Stealth bombers were recently buffed, and are apparently much more useful than they used to be. They can serve as scouts with a bit more punch than a CovOps, but they cannot fit a probe launcher.

EAS are useful in a gang of smaller ships, but they are generally not particularly useful solo. The Sentinel, however, is very effective if you are looking for some solo PVP.

Derek Sigres
Posted - 2009.05.05 06:37:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Misaniovent
Covert Ops are support ships, finding targets who are hidden in safespots, while providing a target for ships in a fleet to warp to. If you train your probing skills and practice with it, you will be a valuable pilot in a Covert Ops.

Stealth bombers were recently buffed, and are apparently much more useful than they used to be. They can serve as scouts with a bit more punch than a CovOps, but they cannot fit a probe launcher.

EAS are useful in a gang of smaller ships, but they are generally not particularly useful solo. The Sentinel, however, is very effective if you are looking for some solo PVP.


The sentinel may be effective solo agaisnt turrent armed frigates. I doubt it's much of a threat to even a Kestral given that neither of it's fancy EWAR options really make much of a difference to it.

WidowMaker IX
Caldari
Posted - 2009.05.05 06:39:00 - [5]
 

If your new, a word of advice if ur thinking PvP, instead of getting an expensive 20million isk ship and losing it at round one which is almost a certainty, get your self 10 or 15 rifters t1 frigs, fit them with T1 one stuff, and go PvP with them, lose them all. At that point ypull know some of the basics.

And then move to t1 cruiser, and do the same. That is eve PVP 101 before you even think of putting one t2 mod.

abrasive soap
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2009.05.05 06:39:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Misaniovent
Covert Ops are support ships, finding targets who are hidden in safespots, while providing a target for ships in a fleet to warp to. If you train your probing skills and practice with it, you will be a valuable pilot in a Covert Ops.

Stealth bombers were recently buffed, and are apparently much more useful than they used to be. They can serve as scouts with a bit more punch than a CovOps, but they cannot fit a probe launcher.

EAS are useful in a gang of smaller ships, but they are generally not particularly useful solo. The Sentinel, however, is very effective if you are looking for some solo PVP.


The sentinel may be effective solo agaisnt turrent armed frigates. I doubt it's much of a threat to even a Kestral given that neither of it's fancy EWAR options really make much of a difference to it.


Fit it like a curse with mse and neuts and it will kill a kestrel or any frig pretty easily.

Grek Forto
Crosshair Corp
Posted - 2009.05.05 06:39:00 - [7]
 

Neither of those ships are very viable when it comes to SOLO pvp. The stealth bomber (the Covert Ops ships that does damage) can put out massive damage, but is still paper thin except for some occasional E-war.

The Electronic Attack Frigates aren't really solo ships at all since they concentrate in E-War and are thus paper thin and are generally more useful in a gang.

Flying a frigate sized ship for PVP. I would recommend training for Assault Ships since they can really pack a punch, but first, if you don't already have experience in PVP. Use a T1 ship like the Rifter. It can be very effective and will allow you to learn the basics before losing T2 ships (since you will lose shipsYARRRR!!)

PS: There are two classes of Covert Ops ships. The "Covert Ops" and the "Stealth Bomber". The "Covert Ops" is suited for probing and general scouting while the "Stealth Bomber" is the damage dealing one.


abrasive soap
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2009.05.05 06:41:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: abrasive soap on 05/05/2009 06:42:49
Go with sentinel, hyena (more for gangs and is pretty useful), taranis, ishkur, wolf, jaguar, crusader, crow. Pretty much the other frigs suck (talking tech 2 here). The punisher, incursus, rifter, and kestrel are good if you're into tech 1. The tech 1 destroyers are also an option and can kill most tech 2 frigates if setup right.


 

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