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Drunk N'Disorderly
Minmatar
BACKUPLEGION
Posted - 2009.04.26 05:33:00 - [271]
 

Originally by: Dwight Hammerhead
Hey, I can make a dump too.

Yes, that was it. Its on this topic


You try to ban your alliance from CAOD posts and then you make a quality one of your own. *golfclap* Well done dip****.

Merbok
Gallente
The Hull Miners Union
Gentlemen's Club
Posted - 2009.04.26 05:49:00 - [272]
 

wtf are all of you talking about??

Murrior
Amarr
Thundercats
B O R G
Posted - 2009.04.26 06:24:00 - [273]
 

you don't wanna know

Vladic Ka
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.04.26 07:11:00 - [274]
 

Here are a few more selected items to whet your appetites:

Originally by: DAB Aneu Angellus
Additionally i have been speaking to BoB and have another chat with Molle upcoming. Expect more information on them soon - but i am pushing to ensure we do things timed at roughly the same time meaning PL will have to openly choose between showing goons the finger or leaving their pets to defend themselves, either of which further what we are doing here.


How did that chat go?

Originally by: -MVN- Avicenna
Xing up will not solve the PL equation. Our main fleet vs theirs + their allies and we are outnumbered 3 to 1 - We will not win when their caps are on the field. We need MORE to actually WIN. I am here to WIN, I have had one too many IAC's and SCA style invasions - which this is turning into.


What happened to just looking for good fights?


Originally by: -MVN- Avicenna
The grass is not greener in fountain if we are getting our asses kicked 4 to 1, with no backup and we are by ourselves taking on their entire powerblock - I love that we can dance - but we aren't going to SOLO fountain by ourselves - we arent BoB or LV - maybe in the future - but we are lowsec pirates and 0.0 remmants from dead alliances using stones to fight tanks.


Nothing like a nice morale booster when you need it eh?

Helen
Amarr
ReviveX Fleet
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.04.26 07:55:00 - [275]
 

Originally by: -MVN- Avicenna
The grass is not greener in fountain if we are getting our asses kicked 4 to 1, with no backup and we are by ourselves taking on their entire powerblock - I love that we can dance - but we aren't going to SOLO fountain by ourselves - we arent BoB or LV - maybe in the future - but we are lowsec pirates and 0.0 remmants from dead alliances using stones to fight tanks.


Question why the hell would anyone want to be BoB or LV?

Carin K
Minmatar
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.04.26 08:10:00 - [276]
 

Originally by: Helen
Originally by: -MVN- Avicenna
The grass is not greener in fountain if we are getting our asses kicked 4 to 1, with no backup and we are by ourselves taking on their entire powerblock - I love that we can dance - but we aren't going to SOLO fountain by ourselves - we arent BoB or LV - maybe in the future - but we are lowsec pirates and 0.0 remmants from dead alliances using stones to fight tanks.


Question why the hell would anyone want to be BoB or LV?



Hey helen, I was talking to you in local a couple of weeks ago right
And I wanted to know
Are you as chill as everyone says, cos everyone says you are p chill
I tried to ask
But you left
Local
.

<BR>


TheBaptist
Amarr
Vori V Zakoni
Posted - 2009.04.26 08:27:00 - [277]
 

Is this where the pms threadnaught went?
Did I do this right?

Razzor Death
Gallente
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.04.26 09:36:00 - [278]
 

Originally by: -MVN- Avicenna
The grass is not greener in fountain if we are getting our asses kicked 4 to 1, with no backup and we are by ourselves taking on their entire powerblock - I love that we can dance - but we aren't going to SOLO fountain by ourselves - we arent BoB or LV - maybe in the future - but we are lowsec pirates and 0.0 remmants from dead alliances using stones to fight tanks.


Avi is a top bloke and all that post does is show that hes not a blind idiot, witch is more than can be said for alot of puppet leaders.

Stalina
Gallente
Serious Business Incorporated
Posted - 2009.04.26 11:24:00 - [279]
 

Originally by: TheBaptist
Is this where the pms threadnaught went?
Did I do this right?

Yes, you are now a level 2 forumwarrior. Gratz m8.

Queen Ba'Ku
Minmatar
Royal Enterprise
Art of Defiance
Posted - 2009.04.26 11:30:00 - [280]
 

Im wonderig how this thread got to 10 pages! Rolling Eyes

Avicenna Sarfaraz
Caldari
The Maverick Navy
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.04.27 04:18:00 - [281]
 

It looks like my posts have made the limelight. Most people who have had the experience of working with me know how I operate know that I will lay my opinion out on the table for you all to see, be it my **** or my opinion - it's mine and I'm sticking to it.

The excerpt you are reading is a partial post but I am sure the entire CEO level posts will be made much like RQM's were posted. I'd like to think my posts were made from a informed perspective, the "enemy" posting this more or less confirms my thoughts and the eventual strategic situation is quite apparent from our current position. It looks RQM and PMS have suffered similar problems but I would say it's less to do with the ground level and more with members of the "management" - I am included here as a CEO of one of the corps.

Puppet Master's fault was not the talent in our ranks having some truly awesome corps (QUAM,CORP1,GONZO)in our ranks allowed for alot of talent to throw down and this was very apparent especially in the early battles where PMS utterly demolished some of the fleets fielded against us, later on only after the alliance decided "Commit" to attacking fountain did morale degrade leading to what you are reading on the forums.

PMS's biggest faults were the lack of organization in the command structure, coordination between ceos and their directors to execute orders from the top effectively - even if some of those orders were half baked and haphazard. When you join an alliance you follow orders till the orders either become clouded or incoherent - you signed up and you "committed" to the cause.

In this case - I do deserve some of the blame for my own participation in this operation despite my reservations - but I have made a lot of friends despite what has happened and at the end of the day, that's all you have.

A CEO must know his/her obligations to their membership and leave their emotional bull---- at the door when making decisions. Unfortunately for better or worse decisions were made and it looks like your keeping fountain for now.

I've had fun and no matter the side of the fence its always good to have great fights and good fun among friends and enemies alike. I'll buy some of you a drink next fan fest.

Pa1nbringr
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2009.04.27 20:49:00 - [282]
 

Should have known better than to let aneu into pms.

Sixer70
Caldari
Association of Cunning Linguists
Logistics and Industrial Dorks
Posted - 2009.04.27 20:56:00 - [283]
 

Edited by: Sixer70 on 27/04/2009 20:56:00
aneu

peoke


hmmmm two names with odd concentration of vowels leading alliances into disarray and causing multitudes of pilots to discover the emotions of hate and disgust.

I wonder....

glassmanipulator
Minmatar
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.04.27 22:45:00 - [284]
 

Well congrats ? This thread made the news page.... lol..

People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work, as PL and friends have stated many many times before.

I think that was your guy's mistake :) Had you read old forum posts about fountain, you woulda known it destroys enemy alliance's. Shoulda picked a dif region to "failure cascade" on.

MAXSuicide
Caldari
Core Impulse
Posted - 2009.04.28 01:00:00 - [285]
 

Originally by: glassmanipulator

People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work


Have u seen territorial maps since 2003/4? I dont think u have ugh

i could make a pretty long list of invasions, failed and successes... but needless to say, it can be done, even with the ever evolving mechanics of the game.

Porgy
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.04.28 01:24:00 - [286]
 

Originally by: glassmanipulator
Well congrats ? This thread made the news page.... lol..

People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work, as PL and friends have stated many many times before.

I think that was your guy's mistake :) Had you read old forum posts about fountain, you woulda known it destroys enemy alliance's. Shoulda picked a dif region to "failure cascade" on.


Glass, meet my friend Bruce. Bruce, this is glassmanipulator. I think you'll find you two have plenty to talk about.

glassmanipulator
Minmatar
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.04.28 01:36:00 - [287]
 

Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: glassmanipulator

People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work


Have u seen territorial maps since 2003/4? I dont think u have ugh

i could make a pretty long list of invasions, failed and successes... but needless to say, it can be done, even with the ever evolving mechanics of the game.


I didn't play in 2003/2004, for years I thought eve was a browser based text game ! (seriously) I said since I started, which was the very end of 06 Laughing

Hi Porgy. Thx for introducing us Razz

Kryztal
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.04.28 03:40:00 - [288]
 

oh god, anue is still doing what he does best i see ... like geez ppl 5 years of history should have tought you better :/

Tmarte
Caldari
Slackers Incorporated
Posted - 2009.04.28 05:35:00 - [289]
 

Originally by: glassmanipulator
Well congrats ? This thread made the news page.... lol..

People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work, as PL and friends have stated many many times before.

I think that was your guy's mistake :) Had you read old forum posts about fountain, you woulda known it destroys enemy alliance's. Shoulda picked a dif region to "failure cascade" on.


No offence, but until SPLoT showed up to reinforce fountain, your alliance were ****ting themselves and your member count was dropping quickly.

Arcane had nothing to do with PMS failing to take fountain. IIRC it was your killboard with the <25% efficiency when we showed up, not ours. Our failing was due to trying to bite off way more than we could chew, and our growing way too fast. We put a person into leadership that was in the alliance for 2 weeks, and nobody trusted. If you don't trust the leadership, then your not going to listen or care for their plans. This was made apparent in game by the lack of people in gangs, and by what was posted on the forums.

In the end the problem was dealt with and kicked from the alliance. We obviously failed to take any significant space and assets have been pulled from the region. SPLoT can take credit for this. Arcane you didn't do a damned thing but be easy kills for us.

It was good fights to the people who deserve the praise, and best of luck to PL/SoT.

glassmanipulator
Minmatar
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.04.28 06:12:00 - [290]
 

Edited by: glassmanipulator on 28/04/2009 06:17:35
Do you see me trying to take a bunch of credit ? No. Learn how to read and interpret sentences. I was merely making fun of the decline of your alliance, as you would be doing to us, but much less extreme and immature Very Happy

Tmarte
Caldari
Slackers Incorporated
Posted - 2009.04.28 06:24:00 - [291]
 

Edited by: Tmarte on 28/04/2009 06:29:40
Originally by: glassmanipulator
Edited by: glassmanipulator on 28/04/2009 06:17:35
Do you see me trying to take a bunch of credit ? No. Learn how to read and interpret sentences. I was merely making fun of the decline of your alliance, as you would be doing to us, but much less extreme and immature Very Happy


Your post and other arcane member post's were clearly implying that your alliance had something to do with it. I'm here to set the record straight and give credit where it needs to be given.

And we would make fun of your alliance if it had failed because we would have had a primary role in your failure. That's different than dying to us by the thousands and then trying to make fun of us because your landlords did all the work and you watched.

glassmanipulator
Minmatar
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.04.28 08:36:00 - [292]
 

Edited by: glassmanipulator on 28/04/2009 09:18:59


Again, back to that reading and interpreting sentences skill. It's ok. I think most of you guys, with the exception of a few, are in highschool still, and don't pay attention in class.

No where am I implying anything. I just remember you guys saying many times in local, how one of your primary goals was the destruction of Arcane, this and that... and now, here we are, with a news thread about your guys FAILURE/disbandment. I just think it is; ironic, funny, fun to make fun of, and were gonna laugh about it for weeks to come.

Oh and I just wanted to add, your guy's seem to be implying much more than I am.

Originally by: T'Karr
Just noticed some people bashing Arcane (SoT guys aswel?!?!?)....

Arcane put up more fights in fountain than PL and SoT combined over the 4 months or so we were fighting there... Well done to Arcane, they obviously needed SoT and PL to help them, but Arcane put up the most fights and were involved in more fights out of all 3.


Whatever, really it doesn't matter. Keep posting excuses and such Laughing

MAXSuicide
Caldari
Core Impulse
Posted - 2009.04.28 12:27:00 - [293]
 

Originally by: glassmanipulator
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: glassmanipulator

People have tried to "invade" fountain since I started playing this game. It just doesn't work


Have u seen territorial maps since 2003/4? I dont think u have ugh

i could make a pretty long list of invasions, failed and successes... but needless to say, it can be done, even with the ever evolving mechanics of the game.


I didn't play in 2003/2004, for years I thought eve was a browser based text game ! (seriously) I said since I started, which was the very end of 06 Laughing

Hi Porgy. Thx for introducing us Razz


ah i see Razz

Admiral Frools
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.04.28 14:00:00 - [294]
 

Originally by: glassmanipulator
Edited by: glassmanipulator on 28/04/2009 09:18:59


Again, back to that reading and interpreting sentences skill. It's ok. I think most of you guys, with the exception of a few, are in highschool still, and don't pay attention in class.

No where am I implying anything. I just remember you guys saying many times in local, how one of your primary goals was the destruction of Arcane, this and that... and now, here we are, with a news thread about your guys FAILURE/disbandment. I just think it is; ironic, funny, fun to make fun of, and were gonna laugh about it for weeks to come.

Oh and I just wanted to add, your guy's seem to be implying much more than I am.

Originally by: T'Karr
Just noticed some people bashing Arcane (SoT guys aswel?!?!?)....

Arcane put up more fights in fountain than PL and SoT combined over the 4 months or so we were fighting there... Well done to Arcane, they obviously needed SoT and PL to help them, but Arcane put up the most fights and were involved in more fights out of all 3.


Whatever, really it doesn't matter. Keep posting excuses and such Laughing


You probably should've gone to fifth grade english before trying to look clever on the internet Neutral

easei
Caldari
Havoc Violence and Chaos
Merciless.
Posted - 2009.04.28 14:50:00 - [295]
 

Originally by: Sixer70
Edited by: Sixer70 on 27/04/2009 20:56:00
names with odd concentration of vowels in alliances causing multitudes of pilots to discover the emotions of hate and disgust.

I wonder....


Fixed and confirmed YARRRR!!

Machiko Noguchi
Caldari
Muppet Factory
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.04.28 14:58:00 - [296]
 

10 pages of blahblahblah.
just say gf and logofsky

now this dude just made my day
Originally by: Mogren
Good luck to you and your remaining pen-fifteen adventures.


LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

glassmanipulator
Minmatar
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.04.28 15:14:00 - [297]
 

Originally by: Admiral Frools


You probably should've gone to fifth grade english before trying to look clever on the internet Neutral


oh noes you got me

Admiral Frools
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.04.28 15:28:00 - [298]
 

Originally by: glassmanipulator
Originally by: Admiral Frools


You probably should've gone to fifth grade english before trying to look clever on the internet Neutral


oh noes you got me


Let me clarify - if you're going to insult someone by telling them they should've paid more attention in class, then you should not abuse grammar and punctuation in the process.

The irony Razz

glassmanipulator
Minmatar
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.04.28 15:32:00 - [299]
 

Originally by: Admiral Frools
Originally by: glassmanipulator
Originally by: Admiral Frools


You probably should've gone to fifth grade english before trying to look clever on the internet Neutral


oh noes you got me


Let me clarify - if you're going to insult someone by telling them they should've paid more attention in class, then you should not abuse grammar and punctuation in the process.

The irony Razz


Wow you must troll these forums like a hawk...just posted that like 3 mins ago. Oh and actually, if you wanna get technical, im talking about reading and sentence comprehension, not grammar. So again, oh noes ! So ironic ! omg what ever shall we do.

JeepersCreepers
Caldari
Endstati0n
Ev0ke
Posted - 2009.04.28 17:07:00 - [300]
 

my point of view:

1. arcane are nothing without SoT
2. SoT gaves us really good fights and i had really fun
3. pos-war in fountain?... and to know "PL sitting with all caps stand-by", .. if u cant bring own caps... is useless
4. our corp has no carebears.. so why we need systems?
5. internal drama is always the end of an alliance in a crisis
6. GF to all peni$$moker in fountain


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