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Baroshi Hynas
Gallente
The Exploratory Project

Posted - 2010.08.20 22:06:00 - [451]
 

Please, oh please give Ishkurs the 10% drone damage per level bonus that they so desperatly need. ALL other gallente drone carriers have it (vexor, myrm, domi). I mean, you don't have to include the 10% drone hp bonus (even though it'd be nice too), just at the very least give us the damage bonus!

Kuan Yida
Minmatar
Huang Yinglong

Posted - 2010.08.23 21:28:00 - [452]
 

+1

Valthax Kelkore
Posted - 2010.08.25 13:56:00 - [453]
 


Theel Maas
The Praxis Initiative
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2010.08.25 14:58:00 - [454]
 


Drifnir
Mnemonic Enterprises
Posted - 2010.08.25 22:04:00 - [455]
 

AF's just need a little boost in effectiveness to really come into their own and kick some ass in Eve

What that 'little boost' should be...i've no idea....sorry. Supported, anyway.

NeovonPoet
Posted - 2010.08.26 12:59:00 - [456]
 

Suproted

Ophelia Ursus
Posted - 2010.09.10 18:58:00 - [457]
 

Man, look at this commitment to excellence:

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1005679&page=35#1026
Originally by: CCP Chronotis

assault frigate balancing is separate to rockets and not on the immediate horizon for release like rockets (aka in the backlog, not assigned to a release but could be pulled in if time allows). The current approach is to release rocket changes, then do assault frigs after that in a subsequent release. The issue is they are scenario specific to where they under perform. One approach we have explored a little is splitting the varieties more to give a more distinct difference in role so one may be remain the armoured gank 'mini-hac' whilst the other might fulfill a heavy tackler role perhaps as one idea to cover the two main scenarios and potential roles.

(also we need to rename these and hacs back to frigates and cruisers. Always weird to call them ships!)


Bleh.

BlahBlahBlah exwife
Posted - 2010.09.14 00:19:00 - [458]
 

TL:DR, but the 4th bonus on assault ships was resistances. Since you have to have a racial frigate skill to 5 to fly that race's assault frigs, meaning the bonus would always be the same, and for other reasons I don't recall, at one point CCP decided to quit listing it as a bonus in the description, and just add the calculated amount to the ships base resists in the info window's second tab.

The fourth bonus is still there, just displayed differently, now. Oh yes....it lets you look up a ship in the market and see what the actual resists would be, rather than having to either board it or eft (quickfit) it, or get out your calculator.

Vladimiru
Gallente
Nanite Industries
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2010.09.14 00:53:00 - [459]
 

Originally by: BlondieBC
supported.

I would like to see all assualt frigates get a 15% bonus to afterbuners, this both helps the AF and the afterburner.


Perhaps even an agility increase as well. I think AF's should be the most agile ship, period.

Astroka
Posted - 2010.09.14 01:13:00 - [460]
 

Originally by: Vladimiru
Originally by: BlondieBC
supported.

I would like to see all assualt frigates get a 15% bonus to afterbuners, this both helps the AF and the afterburner.


Perhaps even an agility increase as well. I think AF's should be the most agile ship, period.

What about Interceptors?

Shwedagon Paya
Posted - 2010.09.14 03:01:00 - [461]
 

+1

Assault Frigates, the ships everyone only flies for fun because they don't properly fill any role, certainly not well enough to justify their cost.

Vladimiru
Gallente
Nanite Industries
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2010.09.14 03:26:00 - [462]
 

Originally by: Astroka
Originally by: Vladimiru
Originally by: BlondieBC
supported.

I would like to see all assualt frigates get a 15% bonus to afterbuners, this both helps the AF and the afterburner.


Perhaps even an agility increase as well. I think AF's should be the most agile ship, period.

What about Interceptors?


Speed != Agility

Inty's should be the fastest ships yes, but AF's should be the best at making smooth 180 turns for dogfighting at close range. I wouldn't mind if the 4th bonus was near-web-immunity (75% reduction at level V).

Astroka
Posted - 2010.09.14 06:49:00 - [463]
 

Originally by: Vladimiru
Originally by: Astroka
Originally by: Vladimiru
Originally by: BlondieBC
supported.

I would like to see all assualt frigates get a 15% bonus to afterbuners, this both helps the AF and the afterburner.


Perhaps even an agility increase as well. I think AF's should be the most agile ship, period.

What about Interceptors?


Speed != Agility

Inty's should be the fastest ships yes, but AF's should be the best at making smooth 180 turns for dogfighting at close range. I wouldn't mind if the 4th bonus was near-web-immunity (75% reduction at level V).

Assault ships are supposed to be stronger, more resilient versions of frigates. Interceptors are supposed to be faster, more agile versions. This is their role.

Hayaishi
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics
Posted - 2010.09.22 12:11:00 - [464]
 

Edited by: Hayaishi on 22/09/2010 12:13:07
/signed

The Ishkur should get a Drone Speed bonus to make it a dedicated AF for anti-interceptor support.

Sepheir Sepheron
Caldari
1st Grave
Posted - 2010.10.06 07:33:00 - [465]
 

Originally by: Wang Jing
It is increasingly common for the vengeance to be fitted with blasters or lasers as even without bonuses they will outperform rockets.


I'm one of them lol
Light Ion II > Rocket

Adrena Tirkuni
Amarr
Manufact Co.
Posted - 2010.10.09 21:01:00 - [466]
 

A second middle slot on retribution would be nice :))

I support!

Jaala Creed
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe

Posted - 2010.10.10 19:18:00 - [467]
 

Agreed, good arguements.

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2010.10.10 20:40:00 - [468]
 

give them all another midslot another rig slot, 30 more cpu and 5 more power and they'd be pretty darn versatile.

The electronic attack ships also need a similar boost... not another mid slot but patching their racial resitance holes and maybe giving them some bomb resitance so they're not dead with one bomb unless they fit a shield extender(and the notion of an armor tanked frigate is sort of odd to me )

Peter Quixote
Amarr
Order of Celestial Knights
Galactic System Lords Alliance
Posted - 2010.10.11 02:40:00 - [469]
 

Love Assault Frigs, just not the Amarr ones. Training for Wolf right now.

Pure Tabasco
Posted - 2010.10.13 22:28:00 - [470]
 

++1

Maz3r Rakum
Gallente
The Imperial Fedaykin
Posted - 2010.10.14 00:25:00 - [471]
 

+1

Freelancer117
Posted - 2010.10.18 19:44:00 - [472]
 

4th bonus on AF's , Excellent Laughing

dont forget the Amarr ships too

Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
Posted - 2010.10.18 20:27:00 - [473]
 

+1

Dro Nee
Posted - 2010.10.18 22:06:00 - [474]
 

Just break out the resist bonus that af's get so that people stop whining.

i.e... give the jag the same resists as the sabre, claw, hound and then the additional resists found on the jag hull can be broken out and made the 4th bonus.

Please oh please do not do dumb things like give the jag tracking bonuses or AB bonuses. Though giving the retri 1 med slot in exchange for a low would be fine.

usrevenge
Posted - 2010.10.19 02:11:00 - [475]
 


Dinta Zembo
Posted - 2010.10.19 16:46:00 - [476]
 

Definitely supported.
I haven't flown my Hawk for months. It sucks balls.
Make them stronger YARRRR!!

hjgjgfgfgsj
Posted - 2010.10.24 14:34:00 - [477]
 

I am totally supporting this. I think the fourth bonus should be in relation to the fourth bonus on the heavy assault ship counterpart.

Vagabond gets a bonus to max velocity, so make the Jaguar get a bonus to max velocity.

Munnin gets a bonus to tracking, give the Wolf a tracking bonus - it has no web.

Ishtar gets a bonus to drone damage and hitpoints, give this to the Ishkur, you may think its overkill so maybe just the damage bonus i guess.

Enyo, I guess would get a bonus to MWD capacitor.


The Hawks current shield boosting bonus does not relate to the Cerberus. I would suggest giving the Hawk a ROF bonus like the cerb.

The Harpy is missing a bonus to shield resistances.

The retribution is missing a ROF bonus and a midslot if it please ya, the midslot, i guess doesnt matter as much if ccp wont fix it.

The Vengeance is missing a ROF bonus.

This won't make them overpowered, only better ships.

Rickhart
Gallente
Posted - 2010.10.24 16:09:00 - [478]
 

supported

matthiastee
Posted - 2010.10.24 16:10:00 - [479]
 

oh yeah i support this

Chris Shogun
Posted - 2010.10.24 18:47:00 - [480]
 

Supported!


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