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Pharago
Gallente
Nughat Corp
Posted - 2009.04.03 09:03:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Pharago on 30/03/2010 03:29:59
This program has 3 main features:

  1. EVE client relocation.

    It places eve clients on the top left corner of the monitor in which they are, so your eve clients will seem to be in fullscreen mode while running in windowed mode, you have to use your desktop resolution in your eve clients.

  2. EVE client switching.

    The client switcher is a small window with buttons, each button represents one of your running eve clients, you can use the buttons to switch between clients, the buttons of the client switcher will use the currently logged character's name if you activate the option 'show window identification' inside the general tab in the eve configuration window.

  3. EVE client view windows.

    From the client switcher you can use the option 'new window' to open as many as 8 view windows into your client, the views will update themselves at the same time as the client. You can control the client with the mouse through those views.

This tool is free, and yes I accept ISK donations and yes they make me very happy when they come.

EVE Windowed Mode Helper 3.2.1

Changes 3.2.1:

  • Fixed a bug preventing the execution of programs using the third option in the menu 'open client'.

Changes 3.2.0:

  • Added Russian translation, thanks to MZine.

  • Added another execution path for the option 'open client'.

  • Added the option to minimize clients from the client switcher.

  • Colors, lots of them. You can change the colors of the UI from the configuration window.

Changes 3.1.10:

  • The program has a installer.

  • You can choose UI language between english and castellano, contact me ingame if you want to make a translation for your own language.

  • Font rendering uses ClearType.

  • You can configure 2 execution paths for the option 'open client'.

  • There is a new submenu called 'alternate', this option will place your clients in a clockwise corner selection. More explanations in here.

  • This is the first version that has gone through a beta stage, and has been successfully tested in Windows XP, Vista 32/64 and Windows 7 32/64.

A big THANK YOU to all the players that participated in the beta stage.

Regards and fly safe.

Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2009.04.03 09:12:00 - [2]
 

Still waiting for EVE to have a scaleable windowed mode. Kinda fed up of being locked to a specific size of window.

Lord Haur
Amarr
Grim Determination
Posted - 2009.04.03 09:34:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Still waiting for EVE to have a scaleable windowed mode. Kinda fed up of being locked to a specific size of window.


Tried changing the resolution while in windowed mode? Give it a try Wink

Pharago
Gallente
Nughat Corp
Posted - 2009.04.05 07:32:00 - [4]
 

bump!

mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2009.04.05 07:33:00 - [5]
 

hehe, I ShiftWindow was made for exactly this purpose a while back (I'm using it now). Of course it doesn't work with Vista, so if yours does, congrats!

Pharago
Gallente
Nughat Corp
Posted - 2009.04.05 07:48:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: mechtech
hehe, I ShiftWindow was made for exactly this purpose a while back (I'm using it now). Of course it doesn't work with Vista, so if yours does, congrats!


I didn't know about ShiftWindow, if i had i probably wouldn't have build this app, dunno, didn't try it.

Concerning Vista i cant guarantee that it works as im using WinXP, so if anyone has any problem with Vista please let me know.

Any way, after looking at the screenshot i can tell you that this app is much much smaller and simpler to use.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2009.04.05 07:50:00 - [7]
 

What is this application supposed to do? Other than locking windows in a certain position it achieves nothing.

Pharago
Gallente
Nughat Corp
Posted - 2009.04.05 07:55:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Super Whopper
What is this application supposed to do? Other than locking windows in a certain position it achieves nothing.


Yes it does, it sets the eve window to fit the screen as if it were in fullscreen. You have to set your windowed mode eve resolution to the same resolution of your windows screen.
Without it you will have an eve client (or more) that its out of place because of the window titlebar and window borders.

Doktor Feeelgoood
Posted - 2009.04.05 08:01:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Doktor Feeelgoood on 05/04/2009 08:01:38
Looks good. Will it work with multiple monitors? My problem is that I dual client with 2 different screens. One monitor runs at 1680x1050 and I have an Eve install that uses that resolution. The other monitor is 1920x1080 and I have a second client install that uses THAT resolution. What I have to do right now is start Evemon, set it to position client on screen 1, click the client so it moves, then start my second client, set evemon to position to screen 2, click that client so it moves, while being careful not to click the first client, and then disable Evemon's moving clients at all. What a pain in the arse.

I'll try this out tomorrow.

Pharago
Gallente
Nughat Corp
Posted - 2009.04.05 08:13:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Pharago on 05/04/2009 08:15:11
Cant say for sure if it will work well with a multiple monitor config, but it should not have any problem, let me know how it works for you.

If there are no complications by using the dual monitor setup, you just will have to start your clients and click on the 'set clients' menu option in the system tray.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2009.04.05 08:54:00 - [11]
 

Sorry Pharago, I was just really slow however this still achieves nothing as the Windows Bar at the bottom of the screen still disappears as your little programme maximises this. If this programme could scale to show the bar whilst keeping the screens windowed would be great success!

Pharago
Gallente
Nughat Corp
Posted - 2009.04.05 09:11:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Super Whopper
Sorry Pharago, I was just really slow however this still achieves nothing as the Windows Bar at the bottom of the screen still disappears as your little programme maximises this. If this programme could scale to show the bar whilst keeping the screens windowed would be great success!


You must press ALT+TAB to switch between apps.

As a side note, i tried to do what you said when i coded it the first time, but i discovered that somehow the eve client dosn't handle mouse coordinates as the rest of windows apps, and because of that (and falcon) it dosn't translate mouse clicks on their correct position on the screen, making the game unplayable; another problem with custom window sizes was eve screen blurring, at least on LCD panels.

ZinderX500
Caldari
Very Predictable Feedback
Posted - 2009.04.05 09:26:00 - [13]
 

That's exactly what i need but for some reason, when i have more than 1 clients running and one of them (or both) are in windowed mode, my pc lags like it was pentium 1 or something. If i go back to both fullscreen on them, its great.

It didn't happen with Windows XP. I don't remember with Vista.
I'm on Windows 7 beta at the moment.

Anyway, thanks!

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2009.04.05 10:07:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: ZinderX500
That's exactly what i need but for some reason, when i have more than 1 clients running and one of them (or both) are in windowed mode, my pc lags like it was pentium 1 or something. If i go back to both fullscreen on them, its great.

It didn't happen with Windows XP. I don't remember with Vista.
I'm on Windows 7 beta at the moment.

Anyway, thanks!


This sounds like a driver problem or your PC isn't up to the task. What's your CPU?

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2009.04.05 10:08:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Pharago
You must press ALT+TAB to switch between apps.

As a side note, i tried to do what you said when i coded it the first time, but i discovered that somehow the eve client dosn't handle mouse coordinates as the rest of windows apps, and because of that (and falcon) it dosn't translate mouse clicks on their correct position on the screen, making the game unplayable; another problem with custom window sizes was eve screen blurring, at least on LCD panels.


Thanks for the attempt mate and a shame that EVE is coded in such a way.

RiotRick
Kamehameha I's Revenge
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.04.05 10:39:00 - [16]
 

This feature is built into EVEMon as well.
Tools -> General -> Relocate windowed EVE to fill a monitor

Darwin's Market
Posted - 2009.04.05 10:47:00 - [17]
 

eve launcher still works... most of the time

Pharago
Gallente
Nughat Corp
Posted - 2009.04.05 11:25:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Pharago
You must press ALT+TAB to switch between apps.

As a side note, i tried to do what you said when i coded it the first time, but i discovered that somehow the eve client dosn't handle mouse coordinates as the rest of windows apps, and because of that (and falcon) it dosn't translate mouse clicks on their correct position on the screen, making the game unplayable; another problem with custom window sizes was eve screen blurring, at least on LCD panels.


Thanks for the attempt mate and a shame that EVE is coded in such a way.


Well, there are a number of reasons about the why eve is made the way it is, as games tend to use their own way to handle mouse control among other things, i'm sure there is a simple explanation about eve's mouse handling and that the effect seen while trying to use custom window sizes is just a byproduct of it, after all, eve resolution should be only changed from it's own configuration window.

Henry Loenwind
Gallente
Area 42
Posted - 2009.04.05 20:04:00 - [19]
 

I think this is the fifth or sixth program to do this.

If you need multi-monitor support and/or want the titlebar and window border removed from the EVE window, or need to reposition multiple EVEs...: Use EVEMover

Feilamya
Pain Elemental
Posted - 2009.04.05 21:21:00 - [20]
 

TBH I wonder why the EVE client does not do this by itself.
What's the point of using DirectX fullscreen mode when you can just create a screen-sized window without decoration? DirectX fullscreen mode only causes problems...

mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2009.04.05 22:04:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Feilamya
TBH I wonder why the EVE client does not do this by itself.
What's the point of using DirectX fullscreen mode when you can just create a screen-sized window without decoration? DirectX fullscreen mode only causes problems...


FPS is noticeably higher in XP when in window mode

Pharago
Gallente
Nughat Corp
Posted - 2009.04.05 23:24:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Henry Loenwind
I think this is the fifth or sixth program to do this.

If you need multi-monitor support and/or want the titlebar and window border removed from the EVE window, or need to reposition multiple EVEs...: Use EVEMover


Thanks for your concern, but i think i'll stick to my app, as it is smaller, faster, easier to use, and it is made of one single file of 70kb that does not need installation.

Arkhan Bayne
Posted - 2009.04.05 23:25:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Lord Haur
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Still waiting for EVE to have a scaleable windowed mode. Kinda fed up of being locked to a specific size of window.


Tried changing the resolution while in windowed mode? Give it a try Wink


the trouble with that is, you can run at your monitor's current (usually max) resolution, and have bits of the client off-screen, or, you can run in a lower resolution, and have empty space around your client that's going to waste.

Personally, I play most online games in a window, and the ability to scale windows is nice to have.

Henry Loenwind
Gallente
Area 42
Posted - 2009.04.06 01:14:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Arkhan Bayne
the trouble with that is, you can run at your monitor's current (usually max) resolution, and have bits of the client off-screen


Now guess why so many people decided to create a program like this one. The yall take care of exactly this problem...

Rick Dentill
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2009.04.06 01:40:00 - [25]
 

Eve Launcher works just fine in Vista, just run the program, setup your clients, and just use the game icon to launch instead of the eve launcher launch button. It will run your clients in the windowed mode you need.

Henry Loenwind
Gallente
Area 42
Posted - 2009.04.06 01:43:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Pharago
Originally by: Henry Loenwind
I think this is the fifth or sixth program to do this.

If you need multi-monitor support and/or want the titlebar and window border removed from the EVE window, or need to reposition multiple EVEs...: Use EVEMover


Thanks for your concern, but i think i'll stick to my app, as it is smaller, faster, easier to use, and it is made of one single file of 70kb that does not need installation.


Just to balance the pros and cons a bit:

Smaller---yes, you have 70kB, I got 740kB. I'd say the difference gos 50:50 to runtime libraries and user interface (I have one)

Faster---Let's see, how is "manually rightclicking in the tray bay and selecting a menu option" faster than "doing nothing"?

No installation---Actually your tool requires the user to find and install some archiver that can extract RAR. And then to actually place the extracted EXE somewhere it can be found again. Mine has an installer: download, run and done, including start menu entry. (And it's a single EXE, too...)

Easier to use---As long as the user has one EVE and one monitor, it could be seen both ways. You have a rightclick and a leftclick, I have a leftclick and a drag&drop. On the first run. On the second run, you have rightclick and a leftclick, and I have ... nothing. ;)

When using multiple monitors however, you lose. (by (a) moving all EVEs to the first monitor and (b) by not removing title bar and window borders)

Henry Loenwind
Gallente
Area 42
Posted - 2009.04.06 01:49:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Rick Dentill
Eve Launcher works just fine in Vista, just run the program, setup your clients, and just use the game icon to launch instead of the eve launcher launch button. It will run your clients in the windowed mode you need.


Has it learned to remove title bar and window borders and not to stretch the window to full display size since I last tested it?

Pharago
Gallente
Nughat Corp
Posted - 2009.04.06 02:09:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Henry Loenwind
Originally by: Rick Dentill
Eve Launcher works just fine in Vista, just run the program, setup your clients, and just use the game icon to launch instead of the eve launcher launch button. It will run your clients in the windowed mode you need.


Has it learned to remove title bar and window borders and not to stretch the window to full display size since I last tested it?


Oh wait, is this some kind of competition?
Because as far as i'm concerned this tool has every thing i need from it, so i don't care who wins.

This is a free tool, free as in beer. If you like it fine, if you dont, stop bothering me, plain and simple.
I thought i could share it, and thru the forums solve any problem others might have with it, end of the story.

Quantar Raalsken
Gallente
Posted - 2009.04.06 02:25:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Quantar Raalsken on 06/04/2009 02:30:24
EVEMon has this built in and EVELauncher is MADE for multi client, giving u the ability to set shortcut keys for each client

ill stick with EVE Launcher tho cause i already have it and works for what i want :P

GJ for ur efforts tho ^^-b

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2009.04.06 02:47:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Taedrin on 06/04/2009 02:48:20
Quote:
Actually your tool requires the user to find and install some archiver that can extract RAR.


I've always wondered, why do people use RAR so much? As far as I've seen, all it does is annoy the crap out of people who don't know how to use it. And you have to buy the software in order to compress with RAR, unless you pirate it. And if you pirate it, you might as well go with 7-zip which is just as good and free (as in both beer and speech) software to boot.


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