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Admiral IceBlock
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
Posted - 2009.04.01 16:19:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 15/05/2009 14:07:10
Hello, YARRRR!!

For people that know me, "hi", for others, "hi, nice to meet you".

I am running for CSM for the first time to ********* CCP.

Ingame, I am a CEO of a five year old corporation. I force people to volunteer to my needs, everyday, seven days a week. I enjoy it very much.

Outofgame, I am part-time employee of the Coca Cola company. I like sex. I enjoy it too very much.


Here is my CSM blog:
http://www.noint.net/csm/

Here is my cut & paste of my agendas:

1. POS sovreignity.
Basically, sovreignity today is ****-ass-boring and I like many others hate it. The solution to the problem are many, but they should be discussed and acted upon. The current ****ty system has been in this game far to long. It is time something is done as it has broken the game too much already.

I posted my idea in 2006. Now we are in 2009 and NOTHING has happend exept for "Soon™". Do you want to stand up to this bull****? No I thought as much. Now you can do something about it, and vote me as CSM!

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=388151

- Why the hell does an offline POS still has its shield intact?
- POS GRINDING SHOULD BE REMOVED!
- If we can not find another alternative together, CCP should make POS @ PLANETS dependent on sovreignity and POS @ MOONS for industry.

2. Region unbalance and diversity.
Have you ever been annoyed by Fountain only having partial NPC sovreignity while other factions has the entire region sovreigned?

- Why do some regions have all NPC sov, while others do not.
- Why do some regions suck so much?
- Every region should be diverse and special.

3. Risk vs. reward.
- PvP.
- Low sec, high sec and 0.0.
- lvl4 agents GTFO to low sec and under.

And in no particular order, things that did not make the top three:
- Stop the ISK spamming in Language channel.
- Projectiles, artillery.
- Rockets.
- Missiles in general.
- Mining.
- Faction warfare.
- Drones.
- Black Ops.
- NPC frigate and cruiser Commanders with appropriate loot.
- Assault ships 4th bonus.
- Blasters.
- Falloff script for tracking computer and tracking disruptor.
- IDEA: Remove ECCM and make ECCM scripts for Sensor Boosters. Also increase Sensor Booster activation level to 30 sec. to limit instant-switch of script.

Shinnen
Caldari
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2009.04.01 16:26:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Shinnen on 01/04/2009 17:15:55


Seal

"A vote for Admiral Iceblock is a vote for Liberty"


Wanna Kill
Caldari
Amplified Pain
Posted - 2009.04.01 16:56:00 - [3]
 

Is this a ****ing april fools or what

Pelsson
Amarr
FISKL GUARDS
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.04.01 19:18:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Pelsson on 01/04/2009 19:18:27
the man speaks the truth.
He forced me to post in this thread...

Vote for him I cant take this ass**** anymore Sad

Jaabaa Prime
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.04.01 19:58:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 01/04/2009 20:08:44
Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
Hello, YARRRR!!
For people that know me, "hi", for others, "hi, nice to meet you".


Hi YARRRR!!
1: POS ****es me off no end, anything you could do to make it better simply makes the game better IMO.

2: I don't NPC much (read: EVER) and I'm not really interested in SOV stuff, but judging by what you said in (1) you get my vote here too.

3: Touches a nerve, there shouldn't be Lvl 4 agents in high sec, get them moved. And PvP Risk/Reward, all the modules should survive in <=0.4 space (MOAR LOOT) Wink

This candidate gets my vote for the next CSM term Razz

Berilac
Amarr
Northern Intelligence
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.04.01 20:01:00 - [6]
 

I support this candidate, idea and/or product.

Gunter Bahad
Amarr
Posted - 2009.04.02 06:07:00 - [7]
 

He gets my Vote ;D

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.04.02 08:42:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Admiral IceBlock


I posted my idea in 2006. Now we are in 2009 and NOTHING has happend exept for "Soon™". Do you want to stand up to this bull****? No I thought as much. Now you can do something about it, and vote me as CSM!


Due all respect, I suggest you do your homework.

We already have had CCP commit to revamping the sov system.
Quote:
Have you ever been annoyed by Fountain only having partial NPC sovreignity while other factions has the entire region sovreigned?

Diversity

Quote:
- Why do some regions have all NPC sov, while others do not.


Diversity
Quote:
- Why do some regions suck so much?


Diversity
Quote:
- Every region should be diverse and special.


Div... Wait, that's what I have been saying all along! Very Happy

Quote:
3. Risk vs. reward.
- PvP.
- Low sec, high sec and 0.0.
- lvl4 agents GTFO to low sec and under.

What do you suggest is done then?

The CSM is already working on looking into the loot gathered from missions. We have also discussed the ISK faucets and how they work.

What can you do to make a difference?

(Please don't take offense if my tone is harsh. I think that you are qualified given your history, however I think you might have missed a few things)

Admiral IceBlock
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
Posted - 2009.04.02 17:11:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Admiral IceBlock


I posted my idea in 2006. Now we are in 2009 and NOTHING has happend exept for "Soon™". Do you want to stand up to this bull****? No I thought as much. Now you can do something about it, and vote me as CSM!


Due all respect, I suggest you do your homework.

We already have had CCP commit to revamping the sov system.


Okay. I have not found much specific except for "We are looking into it and will change it soon". However, most of EVE wants this changed ASAP, not next year.

Originally by: LaVista Vista

Quote:
Have you ever been annoyed by Fountain only having partial NPC sovreignity while other factions has the entire region sovreigned?

Diversity


This is like saying that ECM is balanced, because it is so diverse compared to other EW. Rolling Eyes

Originally by: LaVista Vista

Quote:
- Why do some regions have all NPC sov, while others do not.


Diversity


This is like saying that the gankageddon was balanced, because it was so diverse compared to other battleships.

Originally by: LaVista Vista

Quote:
- Why do some regions suck so much?


Diversity


This is like saying that 12,000 m/s Vagabonds was balanced, because it was so diverse compared to other ships.


Originally by: LaVista Vista

Quote:
- Every region should be diverse and special.


Div... Wait, that's what I have been saying all along! Very Happy


This is bal... Wait, three out of four of the above is nerfed, one is pending. Rolling Eyes

Originally by: LaVista Vista

Quote:
3. Risk vs. reward.
- PvP.
- Low sec, high sec and 0.0.
- lvl4 agents GTFO to low sec and under.

What do you suggest is done then?


For one, reward should be balanced to risk. Making insane amount of ISK in high security is really unacceptable. You want to make ISK safely? Than it should take you more effort than mission farming.

Originally by: LaVista Vista

The CSM is already working on looking into the loot gathered from missions. We have also discussed the ISK faucets and how they work.

What can you do to make a difference?

(Please don't take offense if my tone is harsh. I think that you are qualified given your history, however I think you might have missed a few things)

I am straight-forward and allergic to bull****. Good qualities to have when you want something done, bad if you want to "please the masses". I can make a difference with just being myself, with no lies or facets. Simple, realistic and very straight-forward, either you like it or you don't. Smile

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.04.02 17:24:00 - [10]
 


Quote:
Okay. I have not found much specific except for "We are looking into it and will change it soon". However, most of EVE wants this changed ASAP, not next year.

I doubt that it will be next year. But I have no control over that.


Quote:
This is like saying that ECM is balanced, because it is so diverse compared to other EW. Rolling Eyes


Not really, because the problem you were all about was diversity.

Quote:
This is like saying that the gankageddon was balanced, because it was so diverse compared to other battleships.


Again, I beg to differ. By using that argument, you ignore the problem.

Quote:
This is like saying that 12,000 m/s Vagabonds was balanced, because it was so diverse compared to other ships.


Once again, I get the feeling you got me entirely wrong.



Quote:
For one, reward should be balanced to risk. Making insane amount of ISK in high security is really unacceptable. You want to make ISK safely? Than it should take you more effort than mission farming.


I think everybody agrees with that. But you don't exactly put any good solutions to the table. Even CCP knows that there's a problem, so just saying that to them is a waste of time.

Come up with clever solutions. It will serve you and everybody else much better Smile

Shinnen
Caldari
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2009.04.02 17:29:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Shinnen on 02/04/2009 17:30:10
Edited by: Shinnen on 02/04/2009 17:29:04
Originally by: LaVista Vista


I doubt that it will be next year. But I have no control over that.


Not really, because the problem you were all about was diversity.

Again, I beg to differ. By using that argument, you ignore the problem.

Once again, I get the feeling you got me entirely wrong.

I think everybody agrees with that. But you don't exactly put any good solutions to the table. Even CCP knows that there's a problem, so just saying that to them is a waste of time.





What exactly did you mean mate, because to me it sounded like you're just saying,

"oh some things (regions, ships, mechanics) are worse than others for diversity"

And "diversity" - that sounds completely intentional, so from what you're saying I extrapolate that you mean some things are intentionally unbalanced for diversity. Which is completely bonkers in my opinion, and obviously also that of Iceblock.


LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.04.02 17:40:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Shinnen



What exactly did you mean mate, because to me it sounded like you're just saying,

"oh some things (regions, ships, mechanics) are worse than others for diversity"

And "diversity" - that sounds completely intentional, so from what you're saying I extrapolate that you mean some things are intentionally unbalanced for diversity. Which is completely bonkers in my opinion, and obviously also that of Iceblock.



The universe was generated using a simulator. So everything we see is, supposedly, how the creation of an universe would take place in the real world.

Everything is generated by random too. Moon resources etc. is by random too.

So because of the diversity of regions, you DO have un-equal regions. For instance, KIA settled into Geminate because it has crap moons, making it safer for them. That makes space more interesting. You have regions which are fought a lot for, because they are worth a lot, and some to a less degree. I think that's fine, because else space would be static and all the same.

In regards to ships, I laughed a bit when you mentioned ships. During my time on the CSM, people have tried to tell me that the pilgrim is awful and should be buffed. It just so happens that I more or less fly a pilgrim only, as of the last 6 months. I think it's the MOST awesome ship out there.

It's extremely subjective what is good and what is bad. Because of the diversity of bonuses and the options you have with it, you naturally have ships which are worse than others on a subjective level. You can't define what's good and what's not, because it comes down to playstyle.

The exact same goes for the KIA example. They wanted a quiet region where people wouldn't try to take their space. That's THEIR playstyle, they just wanted space where they could settle in and have a bit of fun. For a large alliance who wants to become rich, that's not desirable. But that doesn't mean it's bad space.

TL;DR: It's extremely subjective. You can't define what's good and what is bad.

Edge Two
Gallente
Under The Edge
Posted - 2009.04.02 18:15:00 - [13]
 

I dont really like what you stand for so you won't be getting my vote. Your just a clone of most alliance jerks who think they own eve.

I don't care for 0.0 space, its full of alliance jerks.

If you have something positive to say about us carebears who like empire then maybe i will check out your campaign in more detail, until then my vote goes some other place.

But good luck ****ing CCP off, that on the other hand, does get my vote.

Admiral IceBlock
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
Posted - 2009.04.02 20:02:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 02/04/2009 20:09:11
Originally by: LaVista Vista

Quote:
Okay. I have not found much specific except for "We are looking into it and will change it soon". However, most of EVE wants this changed ASAP, not next year.

I doubt that it will be next year. But I have no control over that.


I am from the soon™ era, sceptical to anything without a date.

Originally by: LaVista Vista

Quote:
This is like saying that ECM is balanced, because it is so diverse compared to other EW. Rolling Eyes


Not really, because the problem you were all about was diversity.

Quote:
This is like saying that the gankageddon was balanced, because it was so diverse compared to other battleships.


Again, I beg to differ. By using that argument, you ignore the problem.


The problem is that the "diversity" you speak of is not really diversity, it is imbalance.

Originally by: LaVista Vista

Quote:
This is like saying that 12,000 m/s Vagabonds was balanced, because it was so diverse compared to other ships.


Once again, I get the feeling you got me entirely wrong.


That may be.

Originally by: LaVista Vista

Quote:
For one, reward should be balanced to risk. Making insane amount of ISK in high security is really unacceptable. You want to make ISK safely? Than it should take you more effort than mission farming.


I think everybody agrees with that. But you don't exactly put any good solutions to the table. Even CCP knows that there's a problem, so just saying that to them is a waste of time.

Come up with clever solutions. It will serve you and everybody else much better Smile


In my eyes there is nothing clever about it. Just make it so, plain and simple. Change a few attributes and it is done. /whinage may commence after this.

Originally by: LaVista Vista

The universe was generated using a simulator. So everything we see is, supposedly, how the creation of an universe would take place in the real world ... You can't define what's good and what is bad.


Diversity does not equal two, rich and poor regions. I want depth and meaning, more than just "this region is poor and people do not want it". If a region is poor, it should have other attractions besides "people does not want it".

A car salesmen does not advertise a car with "this car is slow and people do not want to steal it". I would not be particularly interested. Even then I at least want an air conditioning and decent mpg. Else I would want the seller to show me something inbetween a lada and a mercedes slr. Surely there must be a good spacy car with good mpg if I sacrifice acceleration?

--

Originally by: Edge Two
I dont really like what you stand for so you won't be getting my vote. Your just a clone of most alliance jerks who think they own eve.

I don't care for 0.0 space, its full of alliance jerks.

If you have something positive to say about us carebears who like empire then maybe i will check out your campaign in more detail, until then my vote goes some other place.

But good luck ****ing CCP off, that on the other hand, does get my vote.

I guess one could call me a jerk.

I don't care for high security space, it's full of carebear jerks... Rolling Eyes

Mocking aside, I have nothing against carebears. They are a part of the game. However, I have much against total security and "safe havens".

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.04.02 22:22:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Scatim Helicon on 02/04/2009 22:34:38
Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
A car salesmen does not advertise a car with "this car is slow and people do not want to steal it". I would not be particularly interested. Even then I at least want an air conditioning and decent mpg. Else I would want the seller to show me something inbetween a lada and a mercedes slr. Surely there must be a good spacy car with good mpg if I sacrifice acceleration?

At the risk of stating the obvious, a car salesman is trying to get money off you by selling you a car. CCP aren't trying to sell a region to you, that's not their job (an alliance might want to rent out or sell space, but then its desirability or lack of is that alliance's problem). Having both good regions that everyone wants and poor undesirable regions is a good thing, because it produces rivalries and competition. If every 0.0 region was of more or less equal value, there would be very little point in waging war with others to take their territory off them just to get more of the same, and 0.0 would quickly stagnate into lots of compact isolationist empires quietly minding their own businesses.

There already are a number of variables in the value of regions - some are good for ratting and mining, some for r64 moons, some with useful NPC hubs, some because of their proximity to Empire, or their strategic location, or because their low mooncount makes them easily defended... some for several of the above, and a couple are terrible for everything - and that's a far better situation than having all regions "balanced" into uniform blandness. That's not to say that new mechanics couldn't be added which introduced more variety (random example off the top of my head: planetary mining for Tech 4 materials) and that might have the side-effect of making some previously undesirable territory more valuable, but that should be a random side effect of introducing a new fun system, not a calculated effort to make all the regions 'fair'.

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.04.03 05:43:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Edited by: Scatim Helicon on 02/04/2009 22:34:38
Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
A car salesmen does not advertise a car with "this car is slow and people do not want to steal it". I would not be particularly interested. Even then I at least want an air conditioning and decent mpg. Else I would want the seller to show me something inbetween a lada and a mercedes slr. Surely there must be a good spacy car with good mpg if I sacrifice acceleration?

At the risk of stating the obvious, a car salesman is trying to get money off you by selling you a car. CCP aren't trying to sell a region to you, that's not their job (an alliance might want to rent out or sell space, but then its desirability or lack of is that alliance's problem). Having both good regions that everyone wants and poor undesirable regions is a good thing, because it produces rivalries and competition. If every 0.0 region was of more or less equal value, there would be very little point in waging war with others to take their territory off them just to get more of the same, and 0.0 would quickly stagnate into lots of compact isolationist empires quietly minding their own businesses.

There already are a number of variables in the value of regions - some are good for ratting and mining, some for r64 moons, some with useful NPC hubs, some because of their proximity to Empire, or their strategic location, or because their low mooncount makes them easily defended... some for several of the above, and a couple are terrible for everything - and that's a far better situation than having all regions "balanced" into uniform blandness. That's not to say that new mechanics couldn't be added which introduced more variety (random example off the top of my head: planetary mining for Tech 4 materials) and that might have the side-effect of making some previously undesirable territory more valuable, but that should be a random side effect of introducing a new fun system, not a calculated effort to make all the regions 'fair'.

I thought that was obvious when I wrote my post arguing about the very same thing.

But thanks for writing it out so that everybody understands it.

Fi Vantage
Minmatar
Bristol Freedom Cooperative
True Reign
Posted - 2009.04.03 06:05:00 - [17]
 

Just to be clear to somebody who knows nothing about Sov, which part of Sov allows this "POS Grinding" and what was the original intent for the mechanics that had this unwanted effect of pos grinding.

Also, how would you remove this, what would be the effect of removing this, how are these effects good instead of bad and what mechanics should be introduced to offset any of the bad stuff?

Shinnen
Caldari
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2009.04.03 09:22:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Shinnen on 03/04/2009 09:26:18
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
there would be very little point in waging war with others to take their territory off them just to get more of the same


Originally by: Admiral IceBlock

- Why do some regions suck so much?
- Every region should be diverse and special.




I think that Iceblock means here that he wants unique-ness of each region (diversity) without some 0.0 regions seriously sucking.

In my opinion the same problem exists in empire...


Berilac
Amarr
Northern Intelligence
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.04.03 09:25:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Berilac on 06/04/2009 10:08:32
Admiral IceBlock Campaign Poster

Shinnen
Caldari
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2009.04.03 11:37:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Berilac
Poster

lmao

Admiral Iceblock, the all-American-Norwegian Hero!

Admiral IceBlock
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
Posted - 2009.04.03 18:00:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Fi Vantage
Just to be clear to somebody who knows nothing about Sov, which part of Sov allows this "POS Grinding" and what was the original intent for the mechanics that had this unwanted effect of pos grinding.

Also, how would you remove this, what would be the effect of removing this, how are these effects good instead of bad and what mechanics should be introduced to offset any of the bad stuff?

POS grinding means one have to "farm POS" for sovreignity. Some systems have hundreds of moons. *gg*

My ideas and discussion is located in the thread in my original post.


For the rest, Shinnen described my intentions correctly. I am foreign kid on the block.

Berilac
Amarr
Northern Intelligence
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.04.04 00:07:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Berilac on 06/04/2009 10:09:11
Please enjoy this image as a break from politics:

Miss Jessica Alba

Shinnen
Caldari
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2009.04.04 09:41:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Berilac
Please enjoy this image as a break from politics:



Based on this subliminal messaging alone, people should vote for IceBlock.

Berilac
Amarr
Northern Intelligence
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.04.05 01:41:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Berilac on 06/04/2009 10:09:44
Vote Iceblock!


Official Portrait

OrDeR
Caldari
Muppet Factory
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.04.05 12:45:00 - [25]
 

This post has been cleared of inappropriate content.

Regards,
The EVE Online Moderation team

CCP Mitnal


C C P
Posted - 2009.04.05 18:20:00 - [26]
 

Cleaned.

Changed images to links. Please post with respect.

Shinnen
Caldari
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2009.04.05 19:19:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Cleaned.

Changed images to links. Please post with respect.


Admiral Iceblock's CSM campaign is now the first and only to be DEV-Team endorsed. YARRRR!!

Admiral IceBlock
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
Posted - 2009.04.05 19:33:00 - [28]
 

I would just like to say that this is just a "sneak-peak top three" that I will mostly focus on if you guys vote me as CSM. I picked the three to be more real and not to drown you with walls of text with all kinds of rubbish, where you have to read several pages to actually see what I stand for.

So, to make a standpoint, I picked the ones that are the most important to me and (as I feel it) the EVE community. But mind you, I stand for (and against) much much more.

Berilac
Amarr
Northern Intelligence
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.04.08 04:24:00 - [29]
 

This just in: Admiral IceBlocks real CSM portrait

The Real IceBlock

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.04.08 07:44:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Shinnen
I think that Iceblock means here that he wants unique-ness of each region (diversity) without some 0.0 regions seriously sucking.

If every 0.0 region is worth (made up figure) 100bn a month, it doesn't really matter whether that value is from ratting or moon minerals or mining or whatever. It still removes an incentive to compete for a particular region.

The current war in Delve and Querious is a good example - nobody in their right mind would simply abandon all the regions that Goonswarm previously occupied in the South east in order to occupy Delve, let alone drop Geminate and Scalding Pass as we did last year, if every region had the same value. The fact that Delve is one of the crown jewels of 0.0 and worth as much as 4 or 5 other regions combined is one of the major catalysts behind that conflict, and for that matter having that wealth concentrated into a small area is probably the key reason why BoB was a major power in the last 3 years or so.


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