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Dane Hur
Caldari
Snapbug Inc
Posted - 2009.04.03 00:15:00 - [1021]
 

So Ken have the devs on MSN, while goons have the most devs in their alliance and Ken gets to be the devs pets? Thats just unfair.

Lucas Tigh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.04.03 04:30:00 - [1022]
 

Originally by: Vladic Ka
Cmon guys you need to threadnaught this more. The Day of Darkness II thread has nearly caught up.

I'll contribute with some rousing discussion:

!

Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Indicium Technologies
Hephaestus Forge Alliance
Posted - 2009.04.03 12:24:00 - [1023]
 

Despite the posturing from Goons and Not-BoB, it is CCP that have failed to keep their facts straight, act consistently and honour precedent throughout this entire affair.

If high-level alliance support/policy issues are going to be dictated by forum wars, with CCP flailing around frantically trying to make themselves appear to be in charge of their own game and failing all counts - why not just give big alliance executors clients with GM tools enabled and let them go at each other directly - cutting out the impotent middle man.

Vladic Ka
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.04.03 14:46:00 - [1024]
 

Originally by: Ryoji Tanakama
Despite the posturing from Goons and Not-BoB, it is CCP that have failed to keep their facts straight, act consistently and honour precedent throughout this entire affair.

If high-level alliance support/policy issues are going to be dictated by forum wars, with CCP flailing around frantically trying to make themselves appear to be in charge of their own game and failing all counts - why not just give big alliance executors clients with GM tools enabled and let them go at each other directly - cutting out the impotent middle man.


CCP had no precedent for to change an alliance name that had been created months prior. If BoB had waited perhaps they could have recreated the alliance after the BoB corp was renamed. But they didn't. So they are stuck with a crappy alliance name, they are bleeding members and they are no longer the powerhouse they once were.

rosey palmer
GoonwSarm
Posted - 2009.04.03 23:29:00 - [1025]
 

Originally by: Vladic Ka
Originally by: Ryoji Tanakama
Despite the posturing from Goons and Not-BoB, it is CCP that have failed to keep their facts straight, act consistently and honour precedent throughout this entire affair.

If high-level alliance support/policy issues are going to be dictated by forum wars, with CCP flailing around frantically trying to make themselves appear to be in charge of their own game and failing all counts - why not just give big alliance executors clients with GM tools enabled and let them go at each other directly - cutting out the impotent middle man.


CCP had no precedent for to change an alliance name that had been created months prior. If BoB had waited perhaps they could have recreated the alliance after the BoB corp was renamed. But they didn't. So they are stuck with a crappy alliance name, they are bleeding members and they are no longer the powerhouse they once were.


That's right brosef, except we control the BOB name with a corp we created to grief BOB, so they have no way to get that name back evah!!!!!!!

Bob lacks a name, CCP lacks a backbone

BOOOOSHHHH.

nuance rasam
Posted - 2009.04.03 23:34:00 - [1026]
 

Edited by: nuance rasam on 03/04/2009 23:35:04
Originally by: Vladic Ka
If BoB had waited perhaps they could have recreated the alliance after the BoB corp was renamed. But they didn't.


Except that it was never renamed back by CCP. Please try again. Rolling Eyes Wait for something that will never happen sounds like a great plan. Confused

Originally by: Vladic Ka
they are bleeding members and they are no longer the powerhouse they once were.


Didn't they just kick your ass and take another system from you?

I'm sure you will post on KUGU again how awsome you are posting in this tread. Laughing

Vladic Ka
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.04.03 23:50:00 - [1027]
 

Kenny kicked no ones ass. -a- on the other hand did a fine job of getting some momentum going but they are also having some internal troubles ATM. It's almost as if black is white they way some alliances are today in comparison to a year ago.

slothe
Caldari
Jian Products Engineering Group
Atlas.
Posted - 2009.04.04 02:39:00 - [1028]
 

Originally by: rosey palmer
Originally by: Vladic Ka
Originally by: Ryoji Tanakama
Despite the posturing from Goons and Not-BoB, it is CCP that have failed to keep their facts straight, act consistently and honour precedent throughout this entire affair.

If high-level alliance support/policy issues are going to be dictated by forum wars, with CCP flailing around frantically trying to make themselves appear to be in charge of their own game and failing all counts - why not just give big alliance executors clients with GM tools enabled and let them go at each other directly - cutting out the impotent middle man.


CCP had no precedent for to change an alliance name that had been created months prior. If BoB had waited perhaps they could have recreated the alliance after the BoB corp was renamed. But they didn't. So they are stuck with a crappy alliance name, they are bleeding members and they are no longer the powerhouse they once were.


That's right brosef, except we control the BOB name with a corp we created to grief BOB, so they have no way to get that name back evah!!!!!!!

Bob lacks a name, CCP lacks a backbone

BOOOOSHHHH.



I am glad that it has now been openly admitted in writing that this name was stolen for the purposes of griefing other players. The correct action should now be taken by CCP to rectify this matter and penalise the greifing parties.

Suzanne Maretto
Posted - 2009.04.04 03:06:00 - [1029]
 

Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 31/03/2009 23:24:04
As you are not allowed to pose as CCP why should people be allowed to pose as Band of Brothers???


It's funny that you think Band of Brothers should be treated the same as CCP.


Firenze Nightingale
Posted - 2009.04.04 03:15:00 - [1030]
 

Originally by: slothe
Originally by: rosey palmer
Originally by: Vladic Ka
Originally by: Ryoji Tanakama
Despite the posturing from Goons and Not-BoB, it is CCP that have failed to keep their facts straight, act consistently and honour precedent throughout this entire affair.

If high-level alliance support/policy issues are going to be dictated by forum wars, with CCP flailing around frantically trying to make themselves appear to be in charge of their own game and failing all counts - why not just give big alliance executors clients with GM tools enabled and let them go at each other directly - cutting out the impotent middle man.


CCP had no precedent for to change an alliance name that had been created months prior. If BoB had waited perhaps they could have recreated the alliance after the BoB corp was renamed. But they didn't. So they are stuck with a crappy alliance name, they are bleeding members and they are no longer the powerhouse they once were.


That's right brosef, except we control the BOB name with a corp we created to grief BOB, so they have no way to get that name back evah!!!!!!!

Bob lacks a name, CCP lacks a backbone

BOOOOSHHHH.



I am glad that it has now been openly admitted in writing that this name was stolen for the purposes of griefing other players. The correct action should now be taken by CCP to rectify this matter and penalise the greifing parties.


Oh, puh-leeze. Yes, we get that someone griefed your band of griefers. Yes, we get that you're still moaning about it months after the fact. Yes, we get that you think CCP should waive its magic wand and give you back the name your leaders continue to insist was never all that important anyway.

But my God, you're a crashing bore, slothe.

Darathor Omegie
Posted - 2009.04.04 08:05:00 - [1031]
 




That's right brosef, except we control the BOB name with a corp we created to grief BOB, so they have no way to get that name back evah!!!!!!!

Bob lacks a name, CCP lacks a backbone

BOOOOSHHHH.



I am glad that it has now been openly admitted in writing that this name was stolen for the purposes of griefing other players. The correct action should now be taken by CCP to rectify this matter and penalise the greifing parties.


If a player or group of players intentionally violate the ToS(Terms of service) the only appropriate response would either be a perm ban or a temp ban.

Vladic Ka
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.04.04 09:07:00 - [1032]
 

Originally by: rosey palmer


That's right brosef, except we control the BOB name with a corp we created to grief BOB, so they have no way to get that name back evah!!!!!!!

Bob lacks a name, CCP lacks a backbone

BOOOOSHHHH.


Thank you rosey palmer of GoonwSarm

Yo Adriaaan
Posted - 2009.04.04 13:42:00 - [1033]
 

Edited by: Yo Adriaaan on 04/04/2009 13:42:49
Originally by: Darathor Omegie



That's right brosef, except we control the BOB name with a corp we created to grief BOB, so they have no way to get that name back evah!!!!!!!

Bob lacks a name, CCP lacks a backbone

BOOOOSHHHH.



I am glad that it has now been openly admitted in writing that this name was stolen for the purposes of griefing other players. The correct action should now be taken by CCP to rectify this matter and penalise the greifing parties.


If a player or group of players intentionally violate the ToS(Terms of service) the only appropriate response would either be a perm ban or a temp ban.



And if a player or group of players intentionally, but clumsily, pretends to be a member of another alliance ... like "rosey palmer" of "GoonwSarm," up there ... the only appropriate response would be to mock them for their silliness. Rolling Eyes

Towelieban
Minmatar
Universal Army
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.04.04 14:40:00 - [1034]
 

Vladic ka you are really trying to hard

Sallie Looker
Posted - 2009.04.04 17:18:00 - [1035]
 


If only they'd had their proper name back, BoB wouldn't have had their asses handed to them today in 9cg.

Cheer up, boys ... there's always tomorrow.

Of course, tomorrow may not be better than today, but heck, it couldn't be much worse, could it? Very Happy

Darathor Omegie
Posted - 2009.04.05 02:57:00 - [1036]
 

Originally by: Yo Adriaaan
Edited by: Yo Adriaaan on 04/04/2009 13:42:49
Originally by: Darathor Omegie



That's right brosef, except we control the BOB name with a corp we created to grief BOB, so they have no way to get that name back evah!!!!!!!

Bob lacks a name, CCP lacks a backbone

BOOOOSHHHH.



I am glad that it has now been openly admitted in writing that this name was stolen for the purposes of griefing other players. The correct action should now be taken by CCP to rectify this matter and penalise the greifing parties.


If a player or group of players intentionally violate the ToS(Terms of service) the only appropriate response would either be a perm ban or a temp ban.



And if a player or group of players intentionally, but clumsily, pretends to be a member of another alliance ... like "rosey palmer" of "GoonwSarm," up there ... the only appropriate response would be to mock them for their silliness. Rolling Eyes


lmao good catch, didn't notice that(oops).. lol

But there really needs to be an impersination type rule thingy...

rosey palmer
GoonwSarm
Posted - 2009.04.05 16:55:00 - [1037]
 

Edited by: rosey palmer on 05/04/2009 16:58:56
Originally by: Yo Adriaaan

like "rosey palmer" of "GoonSwarm"


Kaaablammooooo.

I am silly, but effective Twisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted Evil

This is what the game has been reduced to.

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2009.04.06 06:46:00 - [1038]
 

Quote:
GoonwSarm

LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

But seriously as soon as Kenny gets reduced back to zilcho sovereignty they should just disband their current fail name alliance and go with Band of Brothers Reloaded or whatever. Nothing to lose except a tiny fraction of their overall wallet strength for the new alliance registration. This has probably been said already, this being a threadnaught and all.

Xanderss
Posted - 2009.05.05 07:09:00 - [1039]
 

Edited by: Xanderss on 05/05/2009 07:18:33
I have read much on this topic and how it happened betrayal could be very bad however I donít agree with one person being able to break 1000+-man alliance with a few clicks. From a game standard it makes no sense, so because one guy stood up and commended it was torn down,

Lets put some realism in to what happened if the president of united states stood up and said ok screw all of our allies and we are going communist do you think he would last very long? Or do you think he would be stopped? I think he would be dead pretty fast or in prison. I think thatís what would have happened in the dismantling of a nation sized corp regardless of the person title or privlages.

The game mechanics in this situation need to be corrected. They are very far fetched and anything but realistically what would happen if one man tried to break the ties of an alliance the size of nation.

Not a member of ether of the alliances but I call BS when I see it and this is like a 10 ton pile of steamy crap. Just because the game mechanics allow it due to a bug or ingorance of the devs it shouldnít have been allowed to stick from day 1.

The fact such nonsense was allowed speaks volumes too ccp ignorance. One person couldnít disband a country in mins the fact poor game mechanics allowed such a clown show to occur should have been over turned instantly. But I guess ccp didnít want to admit its mistake and the goons got to do what they love best abuse the game mechanics and make it look foolish or at least take responsibility for it.


Corsys
Posted - 2009.05.07 04:30:00 - [1040]
 

Edited by: Corsys on 07/05/2009 05:51:49
Dont know either of your alliances personally, but this whole thing happened way to easily..
it wouldn't happen like that in any sort of real life corporation.
there is no 1 man who can destroy it all so simply.

In real life if a corp owner did this..
he'd go to jail or possibly be killed by a ****ed off employee..
where is the responsibility?
Where was concord, the ever useless beacon of hope? lol..

Hell, I'll kill a man in a fair fight...
Or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight.
Or if he bothers me.
Or if there's a woman.
Or if I'm gettin' paid.
Mostly only when I'm gettin' paid.

But I at least want em to know it's comin.

CCP really needed to do something about this..
The game mechanics need to be revamped.

but damn.. well played..
they did exactly what they said they were going to do.


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