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Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research
Posted - 2009.03.29 12:15:00 - [991]
 

Originally by: Gnulpie


I really thought that CCP got professional during 2008 and wouldn't give in into any threadnaught/blackmail-attempt of a very small player base.

Obviously I was wrong.


Actually CCP reversing name changes have a long history. One of the more prolific was when they deemed 4S of Morhus Mihi as a "bad name" and changed it. Large outcry gave 4S thier name back. And that was long before the Goons.

It happens.

Sai kein
Posted - 2009.03.29 16:18:00 - [992]
 

Edited by: Sai kein on 29/03/2009 16:18:41
Originally by: the Entity

oh an on topic, we all knwo bob are babies with attitude if dont go their way... get over it u sheep!




You really are stupid Confused. Goons act like Babies, create threadnaught.... you blame Bob. Neutral

rosey palmer
GoonwSarm
Posted - 2009.03.29 16:35:00 - [993]
 

We own (pwn) CCP EVERYDAY Laughing




Cpt Cosmic
Posted - 2009.03.29 16:46:00 - [994]
 

Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 29/03/2009 16:51:10
Originally by: GateScout

FACT: You missed the point.

The name change, itself, is meaningless. The issue is the perception of favoritism to one particular alliance with a documented history of similar issues.

Do the world a favor and think about the underlying issues and not just the superficial symptoms. Rolling Eyes


another braindead zombie answer. the past showed everyone that CCP favors stupidness and whining in forums and you take part in this stupidness and you still dont get this even if everyone presents it to you on a silver tablet. you still dont see that CCP does not follow their own rules and they never rly did and this "event" was the best example, as bob should have never lost their name in the first place, everything done afterwards by CCP was just another proof of fail.

GateScout
Posted - 2009.03.29 21:55:00 - [995]
 

Edited by: GateScout on 29/03/2009 21:57:01
Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 29/03/2009 16:51:10
Originally by: GateScout

FACT: You missed the point.

The name change, itself, is meaningless. The issue is the perception of favoritism to one particular alliance with a documented history of similar issues.

Do the world a favor and think about the underlying issues and not just the superficial symptoms. Rolling Eyes


another braindead zombie answer.

lol. Right back at you. What part of my comment was 'braindead?' Zombie answer? You're kidding, right?

I don't see that ccp doesn't "follow their own rules?" That's EXACTLY what I think.

You have a serious reading comprehension problem.Rolling Eyes


Arnhelm Maas
M2I Incorporated
Posted - 2009.03.30 05:44:00 - [996]
 

This

Arnhelm Maas
M2I Incorporated
Posted - 2009.03.30 05:44:00 - [997]
 

is

Arnhelm Maas
M2I Incorporated
Posted - 2009.03.30 05:45:00 - [998]
 

post

Arnhelm Maas
M2I Incorporated
Posted - 2009.03.30 05:46:00 - [999]
 

number

Arnhelm Maas
M2I Incorporated
Posted - 2009.03.30 05:46:00 - [1000]
 

1,000.

Arnhelm Maas
M2I Incorporated
Posted - 2009.03.30 05:47:00 - [1001]
 

Okay, with over a thousand posts, this is officially an epic thread ... but since there's no new content in it, perhaps it's time for a lock, mm'kay?

Wu Jiaqiu
Minmatar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.03.30 06:06:00 - [1002]
 

GJ for following your own rules. =]

Also, IBTL.

Suction Aspiration
Band of Devs Reloaded
Posted - 2009.03.30 07:50:00 - [1003]
 

I support this decision.

Feilamya
Pain Elemental
Posted - 2009.03.30 16:41:00 - [1004]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
3. what is the actual policy on name changes? what differentiates a legal name-change from an impermissible namechange?


It's based on community care factor.
If nobody gives a ****, there is no policy.
Otherwise policy is whatever works as crowd control. Scapegoats have proven to be effective in the past...

slothe
Caldari
Jian Products Engineering Group
Atlas.
Posted - 2009.03.30 21:38:00 - [1005]
 

Still awaiting a response to this matter CCP Evil or Very Mad

Imperian
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.03.30 22:19:00 - [1006]
 

Originally by: Qual
Originally by: Gnulpie


I really thought that CCP got professional during 2008 and wouldn't give in into any threadnaught/blackmail-attempt of a very small player base.

Obviously I was wrong.


Actually CCP reversing name changes have a long history. One of the more prolific was when they deemed 4S of Morhus Mihi as a "bad name" and changed it. Large outcry gave 4S thier name back. And that was long before the Goons.

It happens.


Hahaha, most of 4s members suicided and Jita all day long because of this until it got changed again. Half of them got banned afaik but it seemed to be fun :P

Vladic Ka
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.03.31 11:34:00 - [1007]
 

Originally by: slothe
Still awaiting a response to this matter CCP Evil or Very Mad


You are not getting your name back. There you go. You got closure.

Zeveron
Exiled Gathering
HELL4S
Posted - 2009.03.31 13:48:00 - [1008]
 

Originally by: Vladic Ka
Originally by: slothe
Still awaiting a response to this matter CCP Evil or Very Mad


You are not getting your name back. There you go. You got closure.


Says who?
I dont see CCP tag below your name.

Keep on threadnauting :-)

Seijitsu Nakama
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.31 17:08:00 - [1009]
 

Originally by: Zeveron
Originally by: Vladic Ka
Originally by: slothe
Still awaiting a response to this matter CCP Evil or Very Mad


You are not getting your name back. There you go. You got closure.


Says who?
I dont see CCP tag below your name.

Keep on threadnauting :-)



u mad?

TheG2
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.03.31 18:51:00 - [1010]
 

Don't change it back, rules are rules.

laura raumal
Posted - 2009.03.31 20:22:00 - [1011]
 

Edited by: laura raumal on 31/03/2009 20:22:19
Originally by: TheG2
Don't change it back, rules are rules.


Apparently rules are rules as long as they are premeditated but not if spontanius according to goonswarm ITT

slothe
Caldari
Jian Products Engineering Group
Atlas.
Posted - 2009.03.31 22:35:00 - [1012]
 

Edited by: slothe on 31/03/2009 23:24:04
an alliances orignal name (i.e. Band of Brothers) has been returned before and we expect the same treatment for our allaince. Or are you suggesting CCP show you favouritism and deny us our name??

It is obvious to the older players in game and people involved in this current situation what is going on. But for newb players and others not keeping up, it should not be allowed to have some greifing GS players pretending to be Band of Brothers and causing confusion.

As you are not allowed to pose as CCP why should people be allowed to pose as Band of Brothers???

Epiphaniess
Posted - 2009.04.01 00:00:00 - [1013]
 

Edited by: Epiphaniess on 01/04/2009 00:03:33
Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 31/03/2009 23:24:04
an alliances orignal name (i.e. Band of Brothers) has been returned before and we expect the same treatment for our allaince. Or are you suggesting CCP show you favouritism and deny us our name??[/b]


I do believe if you really want to get your name back then you will just have to use the same tactics that Goonswarm did. Such as get all your members, allies, friends, dogs and mothers to spam CAOD relentlessly with troll threads and flame wars, making CAOD useless for what it was meant for and full of locked treads keeping the poor forum monitors busy and then cry a lot.

While that is happening get people that are “unaffiliated with your alliance but who are rules conscious and believe in the ethics of EVE” like EVE universe and its players actually cares about ethics, and have them insist that CCP follow their own rules as if they were enforceable by law and strip the Goonswarm squatting corp that kidnapped your name, of the name and return it to the rightful owners. Even get a few of these righteous individuals to create a proposals, petitions whatever in the Assembly Hall forum. Then have all your alliance members, allies, friends, enemies, dogs, cats, relatives, dead relatives and the kitchen sink to sign them mouthing off whatever hyperbole they believe will show that they actually have conviction and care about the subject. All the while having all the members of your alliance be as disruptive and exasperating as possible to the eve player base, Devs and Moderators.

After a week or two of this constant assault, CCP should cave in and give you what you want, of course I know and you know that BoB/KenZoku doesn’t really care about the name. Other than its history and quasi legitimate/illegitimate destruction and theft leaning towards griefing, exemplified by Goons behavior after the incident, on the forums and in game, creating a corp to name squat of all things but of course BoB/KenZoku isn’t overly concerned about all of this they are busy being players/Pod pilots and plotting their revenge.

Instead of becoming the forum warriors we all know the Goons are, being an alliance comprised of people that predominantly originate from a pay to post forum that has little relevance. Because we all know Goons can’t Pvp they hire other alliances to do that for them.

So KenZoku I beseech you how about, instead of lowering yourself to your enemies level, OWN your new name, reincarnate yourself into a new alliance get your revenge become feared by all, all over again and show the players and the Goons who the really masters of EVE are. I know you have it within you to accomplish this.

Yarik Mendel
Amarr
Red Horizon Inc
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.04.01 03:22:00 - [1014]
 

Originally by: slothe
As you are not allowed to pose as CCP why should people be allowed to pose as Band of Brothers???


Are you suggesting both hold the same dev-backed omnipotence?

Monoke
Posted - 2009.04.01 12:21:00 - [1015]
 

It is a shame that CCP did not have balls to stick by their earlier decision.

The fact that CCP had managed to out meta-game GS and their attack on our game / their business was a good thing IMO. Then to go and throw it all away?

Oh well.

Sad

TheGunslinger42
Posted - 2009.04.01 15:32:00 - [1016]
 

Originally by: slothe
As you are not allowed to pose as CCP why should people be allowed to pose as Band of Brothers???


Your alliance was disbanded with totally fair, legitimate in game mechanics and the name was freed up to whoever wanted it. Goons took it.

That is not the same as impersonating a developer.

Sun Clausewitz
Posted - 2009.04.01 17:17:00 - [1017]
 

Originally by: Arnhelm Maas
1,000.


Call me when it gets over 9000

Vladic Ka
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.04.01 19:39:00 - [1018]
 

Cmon guys you need to threadnaught this more. The Day of Darkness II thread has nearly caught up.

Severice
Crushed Ambitions
Posted - 2009.04.02 16:00:00 - [1019]
 

From what i understand bob petitioned the name immediately, and CCP waited 2 months to get around to responding to it. Maybe the real issue here isn't the name change, it's the fact that CCP couldn't hand down a simple decision in less than 2 months. Bob didn't have the option of remaking kenzoku after 1 week, much less 2 months. They were in a race for sov and every moment mattered. Remaking bob later, might have been an option, but it was not an option after a week.

So the question is, what does CCP owe Kenzoku for a 2 month 'lol' on the name change issue? it took the players 3 minutes to find out, find a precedent, and ***** about it endlessly on the forums.

Nicholas Barker
Deez Nuts.
Posted - 2009.04.02 17:06:00 - [1020]
 

Originally by: Vladic Ka
Cmon guys you need to threadnaught this more. The Day of Darkness II thread has nearly caught up.


it has, both on page 34.


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