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Sir Logoffski
Imperial Shipment

Posted - 2009.03.24 14:33:00 - [1231]
 

Edited by: Sir Logoffski on 24/03/2009 14:34:21
Edited by: Sir Logoffski on 24/03/2009 14:34:11
Edited by: Sir Logoffski on 24/03/2009 14:33:36
DIE BEAVER, DIE!

bobr lol

Tyshalle Blade
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:34:00 - [1232]
 


Township
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:34:00 - [1233]
 


LifeLines
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:35:00 - [1234]
 


Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:35:00 - [1235]
 

Originally by: Perpello
I feel very frustrated! And maddened too! Twisted Evil

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Funny that you think it's about you, while it's about ccp favoring 1 alliance which happens to be yours. It doesn't really matter your alliance in what name or form will die soon(tm) Twisted Evil

Endis
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:35:00 - [1236]
 

Originally by: Glengrant
Originally by: Navaj0
One game One rule.[/quote


Of course the same should apply to any alliance that lost their name in the same way to the same bug. Were there any other cases? If such an alliance comes forward and can't get a similar name change - then yes - that would be unfair.


It wasnt a bug that BoB was disbanded, Game mechanics.

Ndundhu
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:36:00 - [1237]
 


TempSniper
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:36:00 - [1238]
 

I support this.

Yonker
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:38:00 - [1239]
 

Originally by: Vincent Gaines
Originally by: Yonker


Quote:
Chribba has a dread in Amarr, not a Titan.


Whatever, capital/supercapital veldspar mining craft.


did you forget the rest of what I said or just decide to ignore it?

Chribba's DREAD was in Amarr prior to the lowsec restriction.

Those that are crying "OMG CCP are breaking rules" support breaking those rules... these mechanics (because the big issue is the sov 3 in a few systems, right?)

So it's ok to overlook mechanics for one individual, but not to an alliance, be it BoB, Stian, or whatever else. I see.


At best this is a red herring...

"Those that are crying "OMG CCP are breaking rules" support breaking those rules... "

Are you trying to link all of the people supporting re-re-naming BOBR to Kenzoku to some other thread where people want to move Chribba's titan/dread/whatever to somewhere it can't go on it's own? :psypop:







Ivoryman
Silent Service Operations
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:39:00 - [1240]
 

I vote no! This gives Goons + the 70% of all space holding alliances NAP'ed with them something to poast aboutSmile This whole debacle is made of WIN! imo.Twisted Evil

Maybe CCP has had enough of Goons + friends... it's CCP's game, if you don't like it I know a few WoW accounts for sellYARRRR!! CCP pulling everyone's 'equality' chain is ****in hilariousLaughing Something else to raise your 'righteous swords' againstRolling Eyes.

Ivory

Igus
M. Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:39:00 - [1241]
 

wow Ccp is openly trying to sweep this on under the rug like they have so many times in the past and completely ignoring the facts. considering the Kenzoku alliance was per existing for several months befor the ex-bob corps decided to join the alliance.

oh ccp will you ever learn cheating is not the answer. if the its ok to be friends with players but when you start cheating like this and the many times in the past you lose credability. and to be honest in the end thats all you have.

bloody johnroberts
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:40:00 - [1242]
 

gm could you please give us 1 alliance that has had its name changed without losing sov.

and please dont use a 1 member alliance that does not exist anymore or 1 that you started to get you guy off the hook

as im sure we would all like to see these so called name changes




Belmarduk
Amarr
Imperial Shipment

Posted - 2009.03.24 14:41:00 - [1243]
 


Lucius Cuningam
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:42:00 - [1244]
 


Poruntubo
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:42:00 - [1245]
 


Yonker
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:43:00 - [1246]
 

Originally by: Ivoryman
I vote no! This gives Goons + the 70% of all space holding alliances NAP'ed with them something to poast aboutSmile This whole debacle is made of WIN! imo.Twisted Evil

Maybe CCP has had enough of Goons + friends... it's CCP's game, if you don't like it I know a few WoW accounts for sellYARRRR!! CCP pulling everyone's 'equality' chain is ****in hilariousLaughing Something else to raise your 'righteous swords' againstRolling Eyes.

Ivory


God CCP sure showed us.

"Take all of our space, disband our alliance and troll us into oblivion will you? *rename's alliance* YOU TAKE THAT GOONSWARMMMMM :argh:"

Endis
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:43:00 - [1247]
 

Originally by: bloody johnroberts
gm could you please give us 1 alliance that has had its name changed without losing sov.

and please dont use a 1 member alliance that does not exist anymore or 1 that you started to get you guy off the hook

as im sure we would all like to see these so called name changes



This

Korerin Mayul
Amarr
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:44:00 - [1248]
 

Originally by: NRCom
Yes to a disband, one rule for all.


nout else needs said.

Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:47:00 - [1249]
 

Originally by: Ivoryman
I vote no! This gives Goons + the 70% of all space holding alliances NAP'ed with them something to poast aboutSmile This whole debacle is made of WIN! imo.Twisted Evil

Maybe CCP has had enough of Goons + friends... it's CCP's game, if you don't like it I know a few WoW accounts for sellYARRRR!! CCP pulling everyone's 'equality' chain is ****in hilariousLaughing Something else to raise your 'righteous swords' againstRolling Eyes.

Ivory


Dev alt spotted!

Serj Darek
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:48:00 - [1250]
 

The tears are strong in this one

Maxxar
Gallente
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:48:00 - [1251]
 

This is no surprise.

Keeper ofDungeonSquad
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:49:00 - [1252]
 

Why u let them rename!!!

Favoring isn't good. Disband them and drop sov or rename back to KenZoku!

Zostera
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:51:00 - [1253]
 

To me it doesn't matter if it's BoB/Kenny/Beaver that had their name changed, or even that an alliance did have a name change without dropping sov and paying to reform.

For me it is the basic principal that a rule of the game was ignored by CCP.

Which rule would it be next? and for whose benefit? Seems to me that the door is now open for creeping illegitamacy in the decision making process of the GM's and Devs.

My vote is for this to be discussed by the CSM and for CCP to listen hard to what the community has to say.

Zos



Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:51:00 - [1254]
 

Originally by: Serj Darek
The tears are strong in this one


Ah yes, so what you are saying is that you support what ccp did and thus don't really care that other alliances have to pay fees to get their names straight, where you get to pay nothing, for something that was your leaders own stupid mistake. I like my logic and ccp's is flawd Cool

Yarik Mendel
Amarr
Red Horizon Inc
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:51:00 - [1255]
 

CCP, your GM and DEV behaviors are an ebarassement to the MMO community. Great game, please sell it to a smarter company before you destroy it completely, you've already killed solo and small gang pvp.

Vincent Gaines
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:51:00 - [1256]
 

Originally by: Yonker

At best this is a red herring...

"Those that are crying "OMG CCP are breaking rules" support breaking those rules... "

Are you trying to link all of the people supporting re-re-naming BOBR to Kenzoku to some other thread where people want to move Chribba's titan/dread/whatever to somewhere it can't go on it's own? :psypop:




not a red herring as much as pointing out the irony.

This is fueled mostly by hatred of BoB/ken/BoBR, and the level of whining and actual threadnought/threadspam level shows this.

I honestly couldn't care less what they change thier name to, I don't feel it's any kind of an explot, or doing anything on the level that GMs/CCP has done before that probably didn't make any waves.

If Ken was replaced by another alliance, that would be different. I'd be 100% with you all. But it's just a name change. The old policy should have been scrapped long ago when you look at POS, cap, and sov effects that have been added since that time. It's essentially a blue law that would have been better addressed under different circumstances.

But if people here, a large majority, are so up in arms over this, than showing consistency regarding other game mechanics would make this look less like jumping on the BoB hatewagon.

That being said, I don't care about the name change, I dislike BoB just as most do, I just don't see the big deal, as nothing has changed but the name. It's not a new alliance, not a replacing alliance, but the same one.

And as a consequence to this, CCP will now, or should now, allow other corps and alliance change thier name without sov consequences.

that "pendulum" swings both ways, I agree it should be allowed, but that it should be allowed across the board from here on out.

Mhua dib
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:52:00 - [1257]
 

1 game, 1 rule

Melysa Reul
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:53:00 - [1258]
 

Nobody forced the BoB member corps to join the existing Kenny alliance. They should have spent the money on the day they lost the previous name to buy the new one they wanted. CCP should revert this change.

Ag'Ammemnon
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:53:00 - [1259]
 

Supportin' this. CCP position seems biased here.

corebloodbrothers
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:53:00 - [1260]
 

Edited by: corebloodbrothers on 24/03/2009 14:55:12
ok, fine then i will disclose, its indeed all in the name, as alot refer too.

kenzoku is a registred trade mark name and the name is licensed and protected. therefor it cannot be used as the name of a alliance ingame or outside on forums. As u can judge from the site itself, the @ means its trademarked name

http://www.kenzoku.com/

which is al fine till the owner complains then u have to remove it in 24 h else fines start rolling in. now thats what happened

the so much refered to eula states name s gonan be changed in that case



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