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Andromeda1
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:14:00 - [1]
 

How does eve run on vista i know eve works great on windows xp but i am wondering what it is like to play on vista does it run smooth no lag?

Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:20:00 - [2]
 

Runs well... vista still sux... but Eve runs fine.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:24:00 - [3]
 

Presuming you have a good enough computer to handle Vista, it runs fine. Unfortunately, Vista is such a resource hog that if you have an older computer, it will probably be pretty laggy on Vista.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:25:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Tressin Khiyne
Runs well... vista still sux... but Eve runs fine.
Vista is fine, Learn2Vista tbfh.

Andromeda1
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:31:00 - [5]
 

i have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50 GHz

2.00 GB of RAm

GeForce 7600 GS 512mb card pci express

will it handle vista fine and run eve fine on that?

Buster Gonads
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:37:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Andromeda1
i have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50 GHz

2.00 GB of RAm

GeForce 7600 GS 512mb card pci express

will it handle vista fine and run eve fine on that?


Yes. But if you're running more than one client, you might want to lower your graphics settings. btw, it runs fine on Windows 7 too ;).

Jana Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:39:00 - [7]
 

Vista does tend to eat 1 GB worth of RAM so if you are planning on running multiple clients you might want to consider gettting 3-4 GBs.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:41:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Andromeda1
i have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50 GHz

2.00 GB of RAm

GeForce 7600 GS 512mb card pci express

will it handle vista fine and run eve fine on that?


As the guy above me mentioned,upgrade your RAM. 2GB isn't enough for Vista + games, TBH. Get 4 GB.

Khlitouris RegusII
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:41:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Taedrin
Presuming you have a good enough computer to handle Vista, it runs fine. Unfortunately, Vista is such a resource hog that if you have an older computer, it will probably be pretty laggy on Vista.


If you have a good enough computer to run vista then eve runs perfectly luckily vista is much better at managing resources than xp.

Khlitouris RegusII
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:43:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Andromeda1
i have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50 GHz

2.00 GB of RAm

GeForce 7600 GS 512mb card pci express

will it handle vista fine and run eve fine on that?


As the guy above me mentioned,upgrade your RAM. 2GB isn't enough for Vista + games, TBH. Get 4 GB.


2gb of ram is absolutely fine for vista and eve if your vista is consuming a gig+ of ram learn to optimise your pc and vista instead of *****ing and moaning about it.

Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:45:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Tressin Khiyne
Runs well... vista still sux... but Eve runs fine.
Vista is fine, Learn2Vista tbfh.
No, you're wrong.

Chucky
HEAVEN'S DEATH DEALER'S
V.I.R.A.L.
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:51:00 - [12]
 

I'm holding out hope for Windows 7 personally.
Windows 7

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:57:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Taedrin on 17/03/2009 21:58:22
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Andromeda1
i have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50 GHz

2.00 GB of RAm

GeForce 7600 GS 512mb card pci express

will it handle vista fine and run eve fine on that?


As the guy above me mentioned,upgrade your RAM. 2GB isn't enough for Vista + games, TBH. Get 4 GB.


2gb of ram is absolutely fine for vista and eve if your vista is consuming a gig+ of ram learn to optimise your pc and vista instead of *****ing and moaning about it.


The issue isn't that you run out of memory, the issue is that Vista will use the swap file instead of RAM. The more stuff you have running, and the less RAM you have, the more likely that Vista will decide to put stuff into the swap file. Remember - the only way to prevent Vista from using the swap is to disable the swap file entirely. 2GB is not enough. This issue is highlighted if you minimize and maximize applications frequently - if you minimize an application, Vista has a tendency to put in the swap to make more room for other applications. This makes switching between applications take longer.

Having 4 GB of memory is even more important if you want to have more programs running while you play EVE, like a media player, virus scanner and/or web browser, for example.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2009.03.17 21:57:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Chucky
I'm holding out hope for Windows 7 personally.
Windows 7


/me <3's his Windows 7 beta.

Dmian
Gallente
Gallenterrorisme
Posted - 2009.03.17 22:50:00 - [15]
 

Vista 64, 6GB RAM (planning on 8GM, you never have enough RAM if you use Photoshop Razz)
EVE runs just fine.

BTW: Windows 7 is an incremental upgrade from Vista. So it will be something like Vista SP2.5 (but it will appear before Vista SP2.)

Khlitouris RegusII
Posted - 2009.03.17 22:51:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Taedrin
Edited by: Taedrin on 17/03/2009 21:58:22
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Andromeda1
i have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50 GHz

2.00 GB of RAm

GeForce 7600 GS 512mb card pci express

will it handle vista fine and run eve fine on that?


As the guy above me mentioned,upgrade your RAM. 2GB isn't enough for Vista + games, TBH. Get 4 GB.


2gb of ram is absolutely fine for vista and eve if your vista is consuming a gig+ of ram learn to optimise your pc and vista instead of *****ing and moaning about it.


The issue isn't that you run out of memory, the issue is that Vista will use the swap file instead of RAM. The more stuff you have running, and the less RAM you have, the more likely that Vista will decide to put stuff into the swap file. Remember - the only way to prevent Vista from using the swap is to disable the swap file entirely. 2GB is not enough. This issue is highlighted if you minimize and maximize applications frequently - if you minimize an application, Vista has a tendency to put in the swap to make more room for other applications. This makes switching between applications take longer.

Having 4 GB of memory is even more important if you want to have more programs running while you play EVE, like a media player, virus scanner and/or web browser, for example.


2gb of ram is absolutely fine for vista and eve if your vista is consuming a gig+ of ram learn to optimise your pc and vista instead of *****ing and moaning about it

Angus MacMorn
Posted - 2009.03.17 22:54:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Angus MacMorn on 17/03/2009 22:55:40
Originally by: Taedrin
Edited by: Taedrin on 17/03/2009 21:58:22
Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII
Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Andromeda1
i have an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50 GHz

2.00 GB of RAm

GeForce 7600 GS 512mb card pci express

will it handle vista fine and run eve fine on that?


As the guy above me mentioned,upgrade your RAM. 2GB isn't enough for Vista + games, TBH. Get 4 GB.


2gb of ram is absolutely fine for vista and eve if your vista is consuming a gig+ of ram learn to optimise your pc and vista instead of *****ing and moaning about it.


The issue isn't that you run out of memory, the issue is that Vista will use the swap file instead of RAM. The more stuff you have running, and the less RAM you have, the more likely that Vista will decide to put stuff into the swap file. Remember - the only way to prevent Vista from using the swap is to disable the swap file entirely. 2GB is not enough. This issue is highlighted if you minimize and maximize applications frequently - if you minimize an application, Vista has a tendency to put in the swap to make more room for other applications. This makes switching between applications take longer.

Having 4 GB of memory is even more important if you want to have more programs running while you play EVE, like a media player, virus scanner and/or web browser, for example.


Actually Vista, unlike XP, will avoid using the swap and use system RAM when possible. XP likes to hit swap all the time as its memory management was designs for 256MB and 512MB systems. Vista was intended for 2GB+ configurations and has some inherent issues on low-memory systems due to its avoidance of swap.

The other issue with Vista is the excessive number of inefficient services running. It's quite speedy once you turn off the useless crap running by default. So optimize your service list and enjoy a nice upgrade over XP.

As a note, My desktop system is an Athlon 64 X2 6400+ with 3GB RAM and a ATI 3850 running Vista and gets 70+fps at 1600x1200 with middling quality settings.

Khlitouris RegusII
Posted - 2009.03.17 23:01:00 - [18]
 

vista x64 2 gig of ram radeon x1900 and i get 75fps with premium on full. people should really learn to optimise thier pc's and os's instead of joining the latest hate fad bandwagon.

Anton Marx
Caldari
Warhamsters
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.03.17 23:04:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Tressin Khiyne
Runs well... vista still sux... but Eve runs fine.



Quite the opposite actually.


Amida Ta
German Mining and Manufacture Corp.
Posted - 2009.03.17 23:05:00 - [20]
 

If you are low on memory (1GB) disable Search, Defender and Sidebar and you will cut Vistas memory use by some 60%.

Obodi
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.03.17 23:13:00 - [21]
 

I currently have two PCs that I run EVE on: One is a Q9550/9800GT box running 4GB RAM and Vista Business. The other is an E8500/9800GTX box also running 4GB RAM and Vista Home Premium. I typically run two accounts on each simultaneously in windowed mode without lag. Both Vista installs are 64-bit.

If I run all 4 accounts in windowed mode on the Q9550 box with one monitor, I get about 15fps in space on each acct. If I add a second monitor, that drops to about 3-5fps per account.

Screen resolutions:

Q9550: 2650x1600 on a 30" monitor(EVE is awesome in full screen on this), and I run the clients in windowed mode at 1920x1200 each.

E8500: 1920x1200 on a 24" monitor, and I run 2 EVE clients in 1280x1024 windowed mode.

It all works great, with whatever the default texture settings are.

Angus MacMorn
Posted - 2009.03.17 23:21:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Amida Ta
If you are low on memory (1GB) disable Search, Defender and Sidebar and you will cut Vistas memory use by some 60%.


And the Themes service, which is one of the main hogs.

4rc4ng3L
Gallente
C R Y O
Posted - 2009.03.17 23:24:00 - [23]
 

Vista is fine...

I can run 3 eve clients + general use, web apps, video players, itunes all at once on 2gb ram with a q6600 and it absolutely fine.

Ironically, you'll fine most of the people who comaplain about vista, havnt actually used it


Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.
Posted - 2009.03.17 23:27:00 - [24]
 

Vista64x with no issues,

9800XT and 8Gb ram

Runs 4 clients full whack at 140FPS in space.

Cypherous
Minmatar
Lions of Judah Incorporated
Posted - 2009.03.18 00:06:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: 4rc4ng3L


Ironically, you'll fine most of the people who comaplain about vista, havnt actually used it



This TBQFH, not had any EVE related issues running Vista and no reall issues anymore either, hell i even got to survive the boot.ini issue :P

Daelorn
Posted - 2009.03.18 01:26:00 - [26]
 

Vista is perfectly fine. I'm glad people have been starting to realizes this, because Vista DID suck, when it came out. I've actually never had a BSOD in Vista where as in XP I would get them quite often.

Now 2GB will be enough for Vista, but it is recommended you get 4GB or more. FPS shouldn't differ from XP to Vista... there was a article done with Vista that showed game were getting same FPS or slightly more than XP.

Also if you install Vista make sure you turn off stupid things like UAC, Defrag (By default it is setup to run daily, turn it off and use something like Defraggler to defrag), I turned off System restore on mine too, prefetch can be turned off, ect.

Khlitouris RegusII
Posted - 2009.03.18 01:31:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Daelorn
Vista is perfectly fine. I'm glad people have been starting to realizes this, because Vista DID suck, when it came out. I've actually never had a BSOD in Vista where as in XP I would get them quite often.

Now 2GB will be enough for Vista, but it is recommended you get 4GB or more. FPS shouldn't differ from XP to Vista... there was a article done with Vista that showed game were getting same FPS or slightly more than XP.

Also if you install Vista make sure you turn off stupid things like UAC, Defrag (By default it is setup to run daily, turn it off and use something like Defraggler to defrag), I turned off System restore on mine too, prefetch can be turned off, ect.


Of course 4gig or more is only of any use if you have vista x64

Skillzero
Posted - 2009.03.18 02:28:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Skillzero on 18/03/2009 02:30:23
Originally by: Tressin Khiyne
Runs well... vista still sux... but Eve runs fine.


Vista is perfect, Had it for 1 1/2 years and no problems whatsoever once you learn to turn User Account Control off.. and a few other settings..

I run EVE flawlessly..

Oh yeah -

Vista 64bit is fine, 32bit seems to have some issues

Aloriana Jacques
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2009.03.18 03:09:00 - [29]
 

I run Vista Home edition, 64-bit and have not had any problems running any of my games. And just like when we all went from 98 to XP, there are some new things to learn but it shouldn't be too hard.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2009.03.18 04:58:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Angus MacMorn

Actually Vista, unlike XP, will avoid using the swap and use system RAM when possible. XP likes to hit swap all the time as its memory management was designs for 256MB and 512MB systems. Vista was intended for 2GB+ configurations and has some inherent issues on low-memory systems due to its avoidance of swap.

The other issue with Vista is the excessive number of inefficient services running. It's quite speedy once you turn off the useless crap running by default. So optimize your service list and enjoy a nice upgrade over XP.

As a note, My desktop system is an Athlon 64 X2 6400+ with 3GB RAM and a ATI 3850 running Vista and gets 70+fps at 1600x1200 with middling quality settings.


That's interesting. I was under the impression that Vista's improved memory management was focused on preloading frequently used applications, and perhaps some reductions in memory fragmentation. Didn't know that Vista actually reduced the swappiness of the virtual memory manager. I guess that means I might want to re-enable the swap file on my Vista install.


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