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Gobo
Gallente
Infusion.
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2009.03.14 11:14:00 - [1]
 

ok...so Ive just entered system and im in cloak.
Align to exit gate.. hit MWD and cloak straight after, with the new cloaking i havnt come out of cloak.

Cloak off before the MWD finishes and warp instantly after, you come out of cloak whilst in warp..

Bubbles are the only thing to stop this to be fair

DiaBlo UK
ZDK
Posted - 2009.03.14 11:28:00 - [2]
 

AFAIK, this has pretty much always been possible...

the gfx its just that, a gfx.

oh, and a good ceptor pilot can uncloak you before you reach warp speed.

Gobo
Gallente
Infusion.
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2009.03.14 11:36:00 - [3]
 

"the gfx its just that, a gfx." what does that mean?

The domi stays in cloak the whole time until its in warp with this method..

Yakumo Smith
Gallente
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.03.14 12:00:00 - [4]
 

I think he means did a third party witness this effect or are you basing this from your own perspective.

If you are basing it from your own perspective, then it may only look like you retain cloak to you, but to everyone else, you are visable.

Jhango Fett
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2009.03.14 19:31:00 - [5]
 

It used to be once you came out of a gate, you will stay cloaked as long as your ship didn't move, this included aligning your ship to its destination. When you aligned, it broke cloak and you were an easy target.

The change was so that you can align WHILE cloaked, and then break cloak just before warping off.

Santiago Fahahrri
Gallente
Galactic Geographic
Posted - 2009.03.14 19:31:00 - [6]
 

He's saying that nothing has changed except the speed of the the cloaking graphic. The tactic described has always been possible. The amount of time that the Domi is visible on an attackers overview has not changed, only the visible effect of the gate cloak fading and the normal cloak engaging has changed. This gives the appearance that the domi has entered cloak faster - though it hasn't.

Don't get over-confident with this trick. You can be locked before that cloak engages.

Guer
Posted - 2009.03.14 19:43:00 - [7]
 

before the new update, the cloaking animation/effect was fast enough that you could clearly see your ship uncloak briefly. In my covert ops, it appears as if I never uncloak at all. I'd say the cloaking effect isn't working as intended.

Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2009.03.15 08:27:00 - [8]
 

I would say many graphics are not working correctly and should be feedbacked/bugged.

Gartel Reiman
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
Posted - 2009.03.15 16:37:00 - [9]
 

No change here, this has always been possible with exactly the same method you describe.

As the first reply says, what's changed is the graphical feedback on the "decloaking" animation. Previously it would take 2-3 seconds for the animation to run, during which time you would see a line slide across your ship dropping the cloak. Now it takes 2-3 seconds for the animation to run, during which time you appear to stay fully cloaked until the end of it where the cloak "dissolves".

In both cases, you are visible on the overview, and targetable, as soon as the cloak actually disengages, rather than when the animation completes. Apocrypha has not changed in any way the feasibility of trying to target someone warping from cloak, unless you are playing with brackets off and the overview minimised and trying to Ctrl-click on their ships in space.

oodin
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.03.16 06:46:00 - [10]
 

you are flying a black ops Laughing

Murk Loar
O.W.N. Corp
OWN Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.16 09:38:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: oodin
you are flying a black ops Laughing


Lol.


Binah 369
Multiverse Corporation
Cosmic Anomalies
Posted - 2009.03.16 11:16:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Gobo
ok...so Ive just entered system and im in cloak.
Align to exit gate.. hit MWD and cloak straight after, with the new cloaking i havnt come out of cloak.

Cloak off before the MWD finishes and warp instantly after, you come out of cloak whilst in warp..

Bubbles are the only thing to stop this to be fair



confirmed.....the MWDrive "trick" has been around forever. It was thought that it might not be feasible after the "nano-nerf" patch, because a large number of ships depend on nano's in order to allign quick enough to reach 3/4 speed; however, the nano-nerf patch did not effect it enough to render it useless.

the only thing that has changed is the gfx and how your ships looks while cloaked.

a boosted hictor (or as previously stated, a good ceptor pilot) can/and will spoil your party. use with care and don't be overly confident/stupid about it.

Kavu
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.03.16 15:29:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Gobo
"the gfx its just that, a gfx." what does that mean?

The domi stays in cloak the whole time until its in warp with this method..


he means the graphics,
just because your graphic shows you still cloaked doesnt mean someone else cant see you, as soon as you de-activate that module you are targetable


 

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