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Tresten Remu
Posted - 2009.03.12 10:08:00 - [1]
 

Hi,
since Apocrypha was introduced on Sisi I am thinking more and more about following scenario.

To get into the same w-hole space is indeed difficult because there are many systems with possible entry points. But it all changes once you are there. As soon as you are there, you can find the entry points easily. All you have to do is to leave your probing alt there and you can come back 'whenever' you want.

I won't elaborate how you can establish moon mining and seal the system with bubbles and camps...

In fact, you get the most rewarding area high sec w-hole space that is safer than 0.0.
Where is the risk vs. reward? It is now hassle vs. reward?

Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
Posted - 2009.03.12 10:14:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Tresten Remu
Hi,
since Apocrypha was introduced on Sisi I am thinking more and more about following scenario.

To get into the same w-hole space is indeed difficult because there are many systems with possible entry points. But it all changes once you are there. As soon as you are there, you can find the entry points easily. All you have to do is to leave your probing alt there and you can come back 'whenever' you want.

I won't elaborate how you can establish moon mining and seal the system with bubbles and camps...

In fact, you get the most rewarding area high sec w-hole space that is safer than 0.0.
Where is the risk vs. reward? It is now hassle vs. reward?


there are no moon minerals in wspace ...

Tresten Remu
Posted - 2009.03.12 10:17:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Hugh Ruka

there are no moon minerals in wspace ...


Oh, ok. Thank you.

Still it does not change much about it.

Dirty Python
Posted - 2009.03.12 10:18:00 - [4]
 

wheres the risk?
how about retrieving 3+ hours worth of loot and salvage through 50 jumps of 0.0 and lowsec after the entry wh had collapsed.

Tresten Remu
Posted - 2009.03.12 10:28:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Dirty Python
wheres the risk?
how about retrieving 3+ hours worth of loot and salvage through 50 jumps of 0.0 and lowsec after the entry wh had collapsed.


Just wait for new entry spawn, maybe?

It is the same as if you were based in 0.0 and needed to move your stuff from/to high sec. The difference is the higher rewards and the chance of no hassle at all.

Dirty Python
Posted - 2009.03.12 10:32:00 - [6]
 

ok whatever. You can sit around an wait for something that may or may not happen - especially if you havent used the available exit wh.

it's not the same. It's the same because you aren't playing/testing this and just making up baseless complaints.

Lt Angus
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.03.12 10:58:00 - [7]
 

one mans exit is another mans entrance

Tresten Remu
Posted - 2009.03.12 10:58:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Dirty Python
ok whatever. You can sit around an wait for something that may or may not happen - especially if you havent used the available exit wh.

it's not the same. It's the same because you aren't playing/testing this and just making up baseless complaints.


I am focused towards long term solution so waiting 2 days or week ain't the issue. My assumtions are not baseless since I tested w-holes on Sisi and the mechanics definately allows what I described above, and I find it odd. What I am wondering if it is efficient enough.

Azuse
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.03.12 11:11:00 - [9]
 

And that's the point, there is no long term solution. No big powerhouse, no one, can control wh space making it one big free for all. It's the risk that was present in 0.0 when the game first started and is s welcome, no enjoyable, return.

Park and alt if you want, just don't expect the next wormhole to go where you want, or not be collapsed by someone else, or go to empire and get camped before collapsing... Life becomes boring when everything become predictable Very Happy

Space Wanderer
Posted - 2009.03.12 11:23:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Space Wanderer on 12/03/2009 11:23:33
Originally by: Lt Angus
one mans exit is another mans entrance


This. If a single prober comes in, he can invite all his alliance to have a tea party with you.

Tresten Remu
Posted - 2009.03.12 12:25:00 - [11]
 

All valid points.
I think it all bloils down to how frequently are wormholes gonna be used and whom.

I am still convinced that instability of w-holes offer more safety(for potentional inhabitans) than danger. The w-holes not only cut you from 'safe' return but cut your from your enemies too.


 

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