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Connner
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.03.11 13:22:00 - [91]
 

I for one verily enjoy the new probing system. I'll admit it took me a few hours of playing around with it on the test server before I figured it out, but now that I know how it works its like 1000x better than the previous system. With more practice I should be able to probe down anything in no time.

Ana Vyr
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.11 13:25:00 - [92]
 

If your scan result is sphere shaped, it means the signature is somewhere on that sphere...not inside it. You can shrink your scan radius smaller than the sphere and get no result, for example. If your scan result is a circle, the signature is somehwere on the line of the circle. If your scan result is a red or yellow point, you can overlap the scan ranges of your probe group at 0.25 AU to get a better result..a green point which you can warp to.

That's how I interpreted the results. Seemed to work fairly well as I found three cosmic signatures (two grav sites and a combat site) in the time it would have taken me to find one under the old system.

Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2009.03.11 13:26:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Sgt Nill

If I wanted to play "sims scanning for my little pony" with shiny new blue kitty b*lls, fine..
- to me, its just not fun anymore.
Crying or Very sad


Anymore?

I mean, you don't seriously believe the old system was fun do you?

Neutral

Confuzer I
Posted - 2009.03.11 13:41:00 - [94]
 

Can you warp to any of the multiple possible locations after scanning btw? Are it warpable to points?

Ana Vyr
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.11 13:46:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Confuzer I
Can you warp to any of the multiple possible locations after scanning btw? Are it warpable to points?


Only once you have resolved the signature down to a green point does it become warpable.

Zurrar
Posted - 2009.03.11 14:28:00 - [96]
 

Edited by: Zurrar on 11/03/2009 14:28:53
Probing 101
little vid i put together to help those in the exploration channel. html format to come.

Gavin Darklighter
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.03.11 14:29:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Confuzer I

Rethinking that. it IS possible to get one result with the 3rd probe. That is only if the target is precisely at the point of the circle which the sphere just only toughes at one point.



If the distances between the two probes and the signature added up to the distance between the two probes, you would have a result with just two probes. But that will never happen.

AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
Druuge Crimson Corporation
Posted - 2009.03.11 14:42:00 - [98]
 

Finding exploration sites is a snap now. Took me all of five minutes to find one when I tested the new system.

Finding a player that doesn't want to be found is going to be a totaly different thing. More so if the system has some vertical play in it. "Push button and receive Killmail" style mechanics, that the old system was pretty close to, need to go anyway.

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2009.03.11 14:43:00 - [99]
 

Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 11/03/2009 14:43:42
Originally by: cpt Mark
Why would more than 3 points make it more accurate?

3 points covers a 360 degree radius.. and therefore you can calculate the position anywhere.

Hell, even 2 points can so long as the point is anywhere not in direct line with those two points!


Actually. 2 points can pin down a circle. 3 can pin down two points, and you need the 4th to get teh exact position.

That is RL tho ;)

Druadan
Syrus Speculations
Posted - 2009.03.11 22:29:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Baconfeet
Originally by: Chucky
Scanning blog to read BEFORE scanning
Linkage


The RP in this makes it unreadable.


Are you kidding? ALL devblogs should be written by some guy down the space-pub.

Sgt Nill
State War Academy
Posted - 2009.03.15 09:10:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Sgt Nill

If I wanted to play "sims scanning for my little pony" with shiny new blue kitty b*lls, fine..
- to me, its just not fun anymore.
Crying or Very sad


Anymore?

I mean, you don't seriously believe the old system was fun do you?

Neutral


Everything is relative, but atleast I got the "feeling of beeing out exploring"..
now, instead of waiting for the scantimer to move down (wich was dull I agree) im just moving balls around in a bad 3d program.. wich is even more dull.
Id like the old system with the new probes.. or something in that direction.

no, no stuff.
Wink

Evolyze
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.03.15 09:28:00 - [102]
 

I like this new system tbh, it took me a few hours to get the hang of it but once you have got it its really good, maybe too good.

I think that this system relies more on your skills with the scanner if you want to find some oen fast, i.e. use the directional scanner to get the general idea of the direction some one is in then drop 3 probes around that direction, if your quick with the probes you can have a warp in on the person within a couple of minutes or less, even if they are in a mission.

probably will end up getting nerfed tho :(

Baron Lafayette
Posted - 2009.03.15 09:40:00 - [103]
 

3 or 4 probes.... who cares

the new scanning system ist the biggest crap ever...

oh wait... for isk farmer its a nice tool to scan out wh etc.

but for fast pvp scanning its just bull$hit...

the scanning takes only 5 sec. but it costs you time to "play" around with the f*ck 4 probes in the not needed interface...

in my opinion a useless "brandnew* feature and a good example for "never touch a running system"

for me a reason to say adios eve online...


Thuranni
Eldjotnar
Posted - 2009.03.15 09:42:00 - [104]
 

Everyone who thinks the old system is better than the new system is factually incorrect.

Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
Posted - 2009.03.15 10:37:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Baron Lafayette
3 or 4 probes.... who cares

the new scanning system ist the biggest crap ever...

oh wait... for isk farmer its a nice tool to scan out wh etc.

but for fast pvp scanning its just bull$hit...

the scanning takes only 5 sec. but it costs you time to "play" around with the f*ck 4 probes in the not needed interface...

in my opinion a useless "brandnew* feature and a good example for "never touch a running system"

for me a reason to say adios eve online...




With that mindset, they should have never changed the original probing system, which ALSO required using basic triangulation.

We've basically gone back to the better system ... only with a makeover.

Northern Fall
Minmatar
British Legion
Posted - 2009.03.15 10:38:00 - [106]
 

GPS Systems use 4

3 for triangulation, 4th for checking errors

Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Posted - 2009.03.15 10:39:00 - [107]
 

In the last 3 hours I've read up on the new probing system, had a play and found 4 wormholes within 6 jumps of each other, 1 in a major trade hub.

This new system is light years ahead of the old one. No waiting around, no chance-based results. Scanning is fun again. \o/

/Ben

Yao
Gallente
Parental Control
HELL4S
Posted - 2009.03.15 11:47:00 - [108]
 


Fi Vantage
Minmatar
Bristol Freedom Cooperative
True Reign
Posted - 2009.03.15 11:51:00 - [109]
 

I'm too new to have tried the old system, but the current scanning system is awesome. I've been sitting in wormhole systems since the patch, trying to scan and bookmark everything in them.

Sleepers keep killing me though.Neutral

Hacra
Minmatar
Cosmodynamics
Posted - 2009.03.15 13:55:00 - [110]
 

Yet another lovely improvement brought to you by World Of Eveonlinecraft, 1 and 2 week olds get together and scan everything up, it's so easy, really! no need to put any effort to it, made so easy that you can even skip few million skillpoints and be pro, join today! :)

Thuranni
Eldjotnar
Posted - 2009.03.15 15:25:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Hacra
Yet another lovely improvement brought to you by World Of Eveonlinecraft, 1 and 2 week olds get together and scan everything up, it's so easy, really! no need to put any effort to it, made so easy that you can even skip few million skillpoints and be pro, join today! :)


I don't think it even matters at this point what CCP introduce to the game, the "wowification" of EVE has become such a meme that people are going to scream it at the top of their lungs with every content patch.


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