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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2009.03.09 09:29:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Sevarus James on 18/04/2009 22:18:40
In game channel for Linux wine support: "linux"
This channel is available on SISI as well.

Wine download location (for .deb / .rpm/ etc. packages:
GET WINE!

Link for EVE Wine installation wiki: EVE WIKI-WINE

Wine recommended packages link: Recommended wine packages for installing git/source

Additional Wine walk through info can be found here: EVEaholic's site

GTKEVEMON (evemon for linux) here: Battleclinic GTKEVEMON
Version 1.7x in SVN and 1.6 are out via binary downloads. (gdebi installs)
GTKEVEMON Battleclinic forum section: GTKEVEMON Forums and feedback

Nvidia specific driver link: NV News Forum Linux Section Driver sticky This post is continually updated with the latest release and "pre-release" driver information.

Reserved for ATI links:
Wine.org link for ATI fixes: WINE - ATI hacks
(This also may resolve some of the nvidia 6x/7x issues that have been reported. Mileage will vary until wine is updated to include these changes. (in other words use at your own risk for now!)

Pulseaudio information (Ubuntu primarily but good resource for pulseaudio users) Ubuntu forum Pulseaudio thread

The Grand old dame' of linux threads, here: EVE with wine massive thread

Any other informative threads or links just reply here and I'll add em' to this post.

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2009.03.10 20:36:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Sevarus James on 27/03/2009 03:44:57
Additional Links will be posted here from forum threads as necessary.

Ventrilo under wine link:

Ventrilo and WINE

The Gentoo Support Thread

Gentoo supported here!

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2009.03.13 14:25:00 - [3]
 

I'm requesting some links for ATI drivers to include in the top post. As an nvidia head, I'm not as familiar with driver download locations/updates other than AMD's main ATI site. If there any other locations worth linking, please post the replies here and I'll get them into the top info post.

Thanks in advance,

Unca Sev

Ho55
Posted - 2009.03.13 20:08:00 - [4]
 

as a relative newb to linux, id appreciate some help on how to patch wine, please

Doublewhopper
Posted - 2009.03.14 11:52:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Doublewhopper on 14/03/2009 11:53:00
Patching and compiling wine:

1.) Get wine-1.1.17 source and the appropriate patch from this thread:
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437

2.) Extract wine:
tar xvfj wine-1.1.17.bz2

3.) Copy patch to wine-1.1.17 directory and patch there:
patch -p1 < apocrypha.shaders.1.1.17.patch

4.) Compile and install wine (compile as user and install as root)
./configure
make depend
make
make install

4a.) get all dependencies that are missing and are causing ./configure to fail to run through (most work intensive part for the first time compilation), then try ./configure again until all is satisfied

Kudzuu
Posted - 2009.03.14 22:40:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Doublewhopper
Edited by: Doublewhopper on 14/03/2009 11:53:00
Patching and compiling wine:

1.) Get wine-1.1.17 source and the appropriate patch from this thread:
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437

2.) Extract wine:
tar xvfj wine-1.1.17.bz2

3.) Copy patch to wine-1.1.17 directory and patch there:
patch -p1 < apocrypha.shaders.1.1.17.patch

4.) Compile and install wine (compile as user and install as root)
./configure
make depend
make
make install

4a.) get all dependencies that are missing and are causing ./configure to fail to run through (most work intensive part for the first time compilation), then try ./configure again until all is satisfied


64-bit users may have trouble following these instructions. To compile wine 32-bit on a 64-bit system, follow the instructions on:
http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit

From their web page:
wget http://winezeug.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/install-wine-deps.sh
sudo sh install-wine-deps.sh

This will ix your dependency problems.

Esme Nomarra
Posted - 2009.03.17 19:49:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Esme Nomarra on 17/03/2009 19:49:55
Originally by: Doublewhopper


4.) Compile and install wine (compile as user and install as root)
./configure
make depend
make
make install




Many thanks for the info, but for those of us who've never compiled anything (me, for one!), could you expand on the above please? At which point do you need to switch to root? And for Ubuntu users, will sudo be sufficient, or will we need to sudo su? Smile

Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2009.03.18 02:16:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Esme Nomarra

Many thanks for the info, but for those of us who've never compiled anything (me, for one!), could you expand on the above please? At which point do you need to switch to root? And for Ubuntu users, will sudo be sufficient, or will we need to sudo su? Smile


First off, is there actually a NEED to compile? If you need the patch to wine, then yes, I see it, but for the rest, just following the link in the sticky above to eveaholic's site and follow the directions for ubuntu oughta' get you going just fine.


Now if you DO need to, here is the sequence:

FIRST and MOST important! See this link: Recommended packages! This has a script file (.sh) for ubuntu depending on distribution. (iirc this needs sudo to run the script properly, but it will get EVERYTHING you need to compile wine in one big swoop. Not wine itself, but all of the things that ./configure will whine about during the first step.)

I cannot stress enough to get THIS FIRST if you are going to compile wine from source or git!!!!!!!!

Now, when all that is done, and you've got the source extracted to a wine-xxx directory change to that directory and do this after you've applied the patch you want to the source.

./configure (in the downloaded source wine directory) (NO ROOT, NO SUDO!)

make depend && make (one line does both and again: NO ROOT!, NO SUDO!) go have coffee and dinner on this part.

Last: sudo make install (here you need sudo so that wine can place the usr/bin files in their proper places. It is the ONLY place you need to do a sudo (for ubuntu) or SU/ROOT for other distros.


Gilbert T
Gallente
Gladiators of Rage
Posted - 2009.03.18 08:24:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Gilbert T on 18/03/2009 08:25:52
New patch

Esme Nomarra
Posted - 2009.03.18 19:27:00 - [10]
 

Thank you, Sevarus, and yes, there is need - else I would not have asked. At the moment it's looking likely that if patching Wine doesn't work, then EVE will remain unplayable on my system, in which case I'll simply take a break from EVE for a while before trying again, from a fresh install.

silent relay
Posted - 2009.03.19 01:13:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: silent relay on 19/03/2009 01:44:31
Edited by: silent relay on 19/03/2009 01:25:36
hi there,


this info quiet helpful ,but i still having problems i can't get father than licensing screen,there is nothing to scroll down , im f stock on that,,,,, any ideas?

latest drivers from envidia, latest wine....... crap i so fu***** disappointed in EVE


is the F**** kick on ass for those who been playing for years and now stop supporting caz they different and not supporting MICRO SHUIT (WINDOWS) ,..... shaime on you EVE team....

Gilbert T
Gallente
Gladiators of Rage
Posted - 2009.03.19 09:33:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: silent relay
Edited by: silent relay on 19/03/2009 01:44:31
Edited by: silent relay on 19/03/2009 01:25:36
hi there,


this info quiet helpful ,but i still having problems i can't get father than licensing screen,there is nothing to scroll down , im f stock on that,,,,, any ideas?

latest drivers from envidia, latest wine....... crap i so fu***** disappointed in EVE


is the F**** kick on ass for those who been playing for years and now stop supporting caz they different and not supporting MICRO SHUIT (WINDOWS) ,..... shaime on you EVE team....


We're all a little bit upset about this, but I *think* the main reason why they dropped linux support was probably because Transgaming wasn't doing their job. They kept them on board for a year past their deadline, and still no premium client on Cedega. So, anyway, your anger would probably be best directed at the TG team.

Nora Smith
Gallente
Space Frontier Foundation
Posted - 2009.03.19 10:13:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Nora Smith on 19/03/2009 10:20:54
Originally by: Gilbert T

We're all a little bit upset about this, but I *think* the main reason why they dropped linux support was probably because Transgaming wasn't doing their job. They kept them on board for a year past their deadline, and still no premium client on Cedega. So, anyway, your anger would probably be best directed at the TG team.


The reason was simply that no one was actually using the official Cedega based client, because it just sucked. Some examples are: regular crashes, many graphical glitches (e.g. the map browser showed junk), no unicode support, no clipboard support, and, at last: no premium content.

Linux users, who tried the official client (including me), replaced it quickly by wine and the regular windows client, as this combination just worked better. I fully understand and support CCP's decision, I'm even glad that Transgaming isn't getting any more money for their crap. They took the Wine code, made it closed source, added functionality and sold it as their very own product. That was absolutely legal, as the Wine license permitted it, but they never gave back anything to the Wine project, neither money from their revenues nor their code enhancements, and that led to a license switch by the Wine devs to the GNU GPL. After that change, Transgaming couldn't legally take any new code from the Wine project, and that's why Cedega is far behind the current Wine features.

We all know that porting EVE to OpenGL and other platforms is more than a huge project, since they need to almost rewrite the whole client from scratch. And, als already said by CCP officals, making sure that every new EVE version is working with all Wine version in use out there is unmanageable. That's something WE as the community should take in our hands by reporting bugs and regressions to the wine devs, and help them fixing them.

silent relay
Posted - 2009.03.24 22:20:00 - [14]
 

hi again,,

sorry for my anger in a previous post, bit upset about that , i didnt have any problems on cedega, but now on wine nothing works ,,,,...

I CANT GET FARER THAN LICENSING cant see that f* license to scroll down .... ANY IDEAS WHAT TO DO?!

latest wine,latest drivers from nvidea,,,,


Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2009.03.25 13:10:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: silent relay
hi again,,
sorry for my anger in a previous post, bit upset about that , i didnt have any problems on cedega, but now on wine nothing works ,,,,...
I CANT GET FARER THAN LICENSING cant see that f* license to scroll down .... ANY IDEAS WHAT TO DO?!
latest wine,latest drivers from nvidea,,,,


This isn't the thread for those questions. Please refer to the threads below this sticky for answers, OR post a new thread requesting help. This thread should be used for links.

Bruce Blacky
Minmatar
Blacky Invention Research Development YinYang
Posted - 2009.03.26 12:39:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Bruce Blacky on 26/03/2009 13:21:51
Edited by: Bruce Blacky on 26/03/2009 12:45:05
Edited by: Bruce Blacky on 26/03/2009 12:41:20

NEW PATCH: (apocrypha update 1.02)

http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/evepremiumpatch84609-85476_m.exe
new patch linkage


hmmm the update doesnt work for me :-(
i get some strange error message with just an ok button and nothing understandable or readable in the message box

any ideas?

i started a new thread regarding this issue:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1034253
new thread regarding the patch issue form 26th march 2009

Ainur Sefarin
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2009.03.26 12:59:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Bruce Blacky

hmmm the update doesnt work for me :-(
i get some strange error message with just an ok button and nothing understandable or readable in the message box

any ideas?


I had the same problem, both with auto-update and when i downloaded the 85476 patch manually. I also tried both "evepremiumpatch84609-85476.exe" and "evepremiumpatch84609-85476_m.exe"

FYI: i use gentoo 2.6.24-r8, nvidia drivers 180.37 (geforce6200) and wine 1.1.16


Miraqu
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.26 18:04:00 - [18]
 

It was suggested in the ingame linux-channel that you should try to set your windows version in winecfg to xp.

Maybe you could play around with that version a little :P

Ravow
Minmatar
Cosmic Encounter
Mayhem.
Posted - 2009.04.13 03:22:00 - [19]
 

I just posted the patch for Wine 1.1.19 on WineHQ site.

Agent Known
Posted - 2009.04.29 06:01:00 - [20]
 

Pssst, TeamSpeak 2 also works in Wine. Use that instead of the Linux client (which has horrible...and I mean HORRIBLE, sound quality). Push-to-talk functions inside of EVE or with any wine-based application open, but doesn't work with Linux apps focused. The Vent hack doesn't seem to work with TS (even though someone said it does).

Meh...I'm still fighting with the damn thing. ATI drivers suck when it comes to getting this game working. First it'd freeze my entire display forcing a reboot, then it would hang, then I finally got in with a black environment and errors flooding. It seems I have the worst of luck. *Compiles wine with another patch for the 3rd time*

CCP Gangleri


Minmatar
Posted - 2009.10.23 16:40:00 - [21]
 

Would you guys want this channel linked to in the 'Other' section of the in game UI?

Kolon Dark
Gallente
Steel Beasts
Sev3rance
Posted - 2009.10.26 13:05:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: CCP Gangleri
Would you guys want this channel linked to in the 'Other' section of the in game UI?


IMHO it won't hurt, at least.;-)

Ravow
Minmatar
Cosmic Encounter
Mayhem.
Posted - 2009.10.26 15:54:00 - [23]
 

Yes! It will be easy to find for new Linux player who don't read the forum.

Valeo Galaem
New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit
Sentient World Observation and Response Directive
Posted - 2009.10.26 18:23:00 - [24]
 

Third on making the channel official.

I assume this will be added in the Dominion update?

CCP Gangleri


Minmatar
Posted - 2009.10.27 11:01:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: CCP Gangleri on 30/10/2009 21:53:03
Linux is now listed under Other in the channel UI.

After the Dominion release on December 1st you will need to re-join the channel due to some small changes we are making. Among those changes is to rename it from 'linux' to 'Linux' so that it conforms with the rest of the channels in the 'Other' category.

Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
Posted - 2009.11.21 23:36:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: CCP Gangleri
Edited by: CCP Gangleri on 30/10/2009 21:53:03
Linux is now listed under Other in the channel UI.



Nice! Btw we got the first spamer last week Wink

CCP Gangleri


Minmatar
Posted - 2009.11.24 17:46:00 - [27]
 

It should be a little easier moderating the channel after Dec 1st, we're adding a "Report ISK spammer" right click option Twisted Evil

CCP Gangleri


Minmatar
Posted - 2009.12.01 19:18:00 - [28]
 

Unfortunately the upgrade of the channel to a system one wiped the MOTD so you guys will have to rebuild it, here is the last backup I could find (sans all the formatting):
Originally by: old linux MOTD

EVE Linux Forum section OOG: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=channel&channelID=630463

EVE Linux Information and links thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1017452

Current OPS: Sevarus James, Ravow, ChristofDeluca, KtoJest. Post in EVE forums for OP status to help cover timezones will be up before 3-28-09.

Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
Posted - 2009.12.02 22:56:00 - [29]
 

The channel setting of Delayed member listing is annoying. Would be nice to have Immediate mode back again.

I presume that's something an operator can change.


Nimtra
Posted - 2009.12.09 21:31:00 - [30]
 

Well I tried Mono yesterday and running the "regular" Evemon.
It works great, problem is getting the binaries out of the installer. But you might be able to use winetricks to get .net in wine then install it in wine, copy the binaries wherever you want and use mono to run it. The installer wont continue if you dont have .net in wine .

I just had an old installation of Evemon, so I just copied those and updated.
Or you just get one of the development packages since those are in .zip format.

I got mono-runtime 2.4.2.3+dfsg-3, I think you'll also need the libmono-winforms if its not yet installed. But since mono is already installed on Ubuntu (Not on Fedora it seems) to run e.g. Tomboy you should be able to run Evemon with "mono EVEMon.exe".
(Pay attention, on some systems wine executes everything that stops with .exe if you click on it)


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