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Rhyothyn
Hellequin Inc.
Posted - 2009.03.09 16:07:00 - [31]
 

What's with Black Ops?

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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.09 16:09:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Bellum Eternus
There is no definitive list of T3 module subsystems and their bonuses in the patch notes.


I have spoken to CCP Chronotis about this and he assures me that there will be an updated list of sub systems and bonuses in the Game Development forum later today. I will add a link to this in this thread and the Patch Notes once it becomes available.

Given that there are so many sub systems and bonuses it would be a really, really long list to add.

cpu939
Gallente
Volatile Nature
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.03.09 16:10:00 - [33]
 

ok not complaining here but what has change in the deployment with Apocrypha as its only 13 hours i mean most time you aim for 24 hours and most times you do make it in that time is it a case that the server already have the information on it and you just have to move the database and test or is there a new way of deploying it.

anyways gl hope it all goes well.

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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.09 16:12:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Gharlane
Quote:
Skills
  • The Signal Acquisition skill is now called Astrometric Triangulation and gives a strength bonus.

  • The Astrometric Triangulation skill is now called Astrometric Acquisition and gives a scan time bonus.



Confused! is Signal Acquisition now Astrometric AcquisitionQuestion
I need to know what I should be training now.


This is not correct as per the new dev blog by CCP Greyscale.

Night Doc
Posted - 2009.03.09 16:12:00 - [35]
 

yup, no word about "ensure a long skill is being trained?"

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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.09 16:15:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: cpu939
ok not complaining here but what has change in the deployment with Apocrypha as its only 13 hours i mean most time you aim for 24 hours and most times you do make it in that time is it a case that the server already have the information on it and you just have to move the database and test or is there a new way of deploying it.

anyways gl hope it all goes well.


The addition of the new Ramsan 500 as per CCP Mindstars blog means shorter deployment times Smile

Phem Nuwan
K Directorate
Posted - 2009.03.09 16:19:00 - [37]
 

Does this patch fix the Factional Warfare lag? I didn't see anything about that in the patch notes...

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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.09 16:24:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Phem Nuwan
Does this patch fix the Factional Warfare lag? I didn't see anything about that in the patch notes...


Changes have been made which you can read about under Fixes, Need for Speed Smile

Roslyn
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.09 16:29:00 - [39]
 

Can someone please supply an estimate size of the patch? Seeing as I will probably be downloading till Wednesday evening =/

Dirigibla
The Executioners
Capital.Punishment
Posted - 2009.03.09 17:05:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Gharlane
Quote:
Skills
  • The Signal Acquisition skill is now called Astrometric Triangulation and gives a strength bonus.

  • The Astrometric Triangulation skill is now called Astrometric Acquisition and gives a scan time bonus.



Confused! is Signal Acquisition now Astrometric AcquisitionQuestion
I need to know what I should be training now.


This is not correct as per the new dev blog by CCP Greyscale.


That is not correct as per the same blog (and the quote).

Signal Acquisition will change to Astrometric Triangulation, and the bonus will change from scan time to scan strength.

In other words: If you want to boost your scan strength, train Signal Acquisition now, and continue with the same skill under its new name in Apocrypha, Astrometric Triangulation.

If you want to boost your scan time, train Astrometric Triangulation now, and continue with the same skill under its new name in Apocrypha, Astrometric Acquisition.

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.09 17:30:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Dirigibla
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Gharlane
Quote:
Skills
  • The Signal Acquisition skill is now called Astrometric Triangulation and gives a strength bonus.

  • The Astrometric Triangulation skill is now called Astrometric Acquisition and gives a scan time bonus.



Confused! is Signal Acquisition now Astrometric AcquisitionQuestion
I need to know what I should be training now.


This is not correct as per the new dev blog by CCP Greyscale.


That is not correct as per the same blog (and the quote).

Signal Acquisition will change to Astrometric Triangulation, and the bonus will change from scan time to scan strength.

In other words: If you want to boost your scan strength, train Signal Acquisition now, and continue with the same skill under its new name in Apocrypha, Astrometric Triangulation.

If you want to boost your scan time, train Astrometric Triangulation now, and continue with the same skill under its new name in Apocrypha, Astrometric Acquisition.


The current skill on Tranquility, Signal Acquisition, will be renamed to Astrometric Triangulation.

The current skill on Tranquility, Astrometric Triangulation, will be renamed to Astrometric Acquisition.

Astrometric Triangulation will give a bonus to scan strength and Astrometric Acquisition will give a bonus to scan time.

You are quite right and I misquoted there Embarassed

DaemonExodus
Sleeper Industries
Posted - 2009.03.09 17:49:00 - [42]
 

I agree with someone else here who said CCP needs to take out the immense amount of "fluff" they add to patch notes. It is bad enough when I read ads and interviews geared to potential new subscribers but stop yanking our chain around on the patch notes.

Computers and/or software tweaks that you added on the server side to make the game more playable WEEKS ago does not constitute a patch note of an expansion that is coming out. The Ramsan was added already, its in the past its not being released tomorrow its not a client "feature". Same goes for need for speed or anything else that is not especially being added TOMORROW on patch day.

Stop trying to sell us the game in patch notes, we already subscribe thank you.

Gil Danastre
Amarr
JAF-CO Exploration
Posted - 2009.03.09 18:24:00 - [43]
 

Quote:
The System Scanner Array has been recalled by its manufacturers for faulty wiring and you can redeem your original purchase cost by selling them back to various NPC corporations.


Why was this done? I was under the impression that the system scanners were useful.

ViolenTUK
Gallente
Demolition Men
Posted - 2009.03.09 18:28:00 - [44]
 

Its a Shame that the Planets and moons haven't been given a complete overhaul also. I can tell that work has been done to them but they arent any better.

Crayson Carlyle
Gallente
S.T.U.R.M.
Posted - 2009.03.09 18:31:00 - [45]
 

What about the Learning Multiplier when change the Skills for Signal Ac. btw. Astrometic Tri.

Old 5, now 8 ....

If one had Astrometic Tri. at 5 and Signal Acq. at 4, he wold get many Skillpoints given.
A Char with Astrometic Tri. at 4 and Signal Acq. at 5, has a big Disadvantage.

So why does the Skills Changed, its not Equality for the EVE Players.

CCP Greyscale

Posted - 2009.03.09 18:57:00 - [46]
 

The only thing that was done to the skills was to change the names over and the bonuses they give. The skill that you have in your character sheet that's currently called "Signal Acquisition" will have its name changed and will have its bonus changed. The rank of the skill and the number of levels you have trained in it will not be changed. Thus if you currently have Signal Acquisition trained to level 5, you will find post-patch that you have a skill called "Astrometric Triangulation", which will be a rank 8 skill still, and will be trained to level 5 still. Nobody is losing skillpoints, nobody is having the ranks of trained skills altered. All that it means is that the most useful skill is still the rank 8 one and it will still have as many skillpoints as you have in the current rank 8 exploration skill.

DCThunder
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2009.03.09 18:59:00 - [47]
 

Anybody got a link to a printable copy of the patch notes? Word or PDF?

Crayson Carlyle
Gallente
S.T.U.R.M.
Posted - 2009.03.09 19:12:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Crayson Carlyle on 09/03/2009 19:43:01
Edited by: Crayson Carlyle on 09/03/2009 19:33:31
Edited by: Crayson Carlyle on 09/03/2009 19:13:53
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
The only thing that was done to the skills was to change the names over and the bonuses they give. The skill that you have in your character sheet that's currently called "Signal Acquisition" will have its name changed and will have its bonus changed. The rank of the skill and the number of levels you have trained in it will not be changed. Thus if you currently have Signal Acquisition trained to level 5, you will find post-patch that you have a skill called "Astrometric Triangulation", which will be a rank 8 skill still, and will be trained to level 5 still. Nobody is losing skillpoints, nobody is having the ranks of trained skills altered. All that it means is that the most useful skill is still the rank 8 one and it will still have as many skillpoints as you have in the current rank 8 exploration skill.


So i think i los skillpoint for one simple example :

Bevor Patch, Skill for Strength at 5 an for Scan Time at 4 !

If i have Astrometric Triangulation at 5 (5x) an Signal Acquisitan 4 (8x)
After Patch
If i have Astrometric Triangulation at 4 (8x) an Astrometic Acquisitan 5 (5x)

After Patch, i must Skill a 8x for a Second Time to 5 ....

A other Example :

Bevor Patch, Skill for Strength at 4 an for Scan Time at 5 !

If i have Astrometric Triangulation at 4 (5x) an Signal Acquisitan 5 (8x)
After Patch
If i have Astrometric Triangulation at 5 (8x) an Astrometic Acquisitan 4 (5x)
So i have not need to skill the other skill at 5, because Scann Time is now not needed at 5, because it gives only 1 second.
I think the Player in Example 2 is a lucky one !

So some Players are better, some Players More badly, in Point of the Skillpoints. 1 Million Skillpoints given for a Lucky Player.

Barador Mercer
S.T.U.R.M.
Posted - 2009.03.09 19:14:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Barador Mercer on 09/03/2009 19:20:04
Edited by: Barador Mercer on 09/03/2009 19:19:38
Sorry Grayscale,
but the most useful skill was (after tomorrows patch) the one which gave you more scan strength, so to say the rank 5 skill astrometic trian. Signal Acqu. was just nice to have to reduce scan time.

Most of the players I think got the following skill set:

Signal Aqu. (8) @Level 4 ----> reduces scan time
Astrometic Tri (5) @Level 5 ----> gives more scan strength (which is by far more important, it lets you find something)



So after youre patch tomorrow people will have

Signal Aqu. (5) @Level 5 ----> reduces scan time
Astrometic Tri (8) @Level 4 ----> gives more scan strength

So the have a reduction of 50% scan time (whoooa, 5 secs to 10 is not that great as it was before the patch, the percentage is the same right, but the effect now sucks, same goes with covert ops @level 5). So to say, 30 days skill training for one f***ing second, very nice.
Will the bonus given for the covert ops skill also be changed or do i now have another useless skill @level 5?

Or am I wrong?

zandayus
Posted - 2009.03.09 19:45:00 - [50]
 

to CCP Navigator beware the arrogance of technology.such arrogance sunk the Titanic.

Paxi
Posted - 2009.03.09 19:58:00 - [51]
 

"Covert Ops Skill Bonus: -98% to -100% reduction in Cloaking Device CPU use per level and 10% increase to scan strength of probes per level"


Sorasale
Posted - 2009.03.09 19:59:00 - [52]
 

I suggest that the devs allow alternative download sites for the patch to decrease server load and maybe have it in torrent format just a few suggestions

ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company
Independent Faction
Posted - 2009.03.09 20:02:00 - [53]
 

Is it just me, or do these expansion patches always deploy on Tuesdays? Confused

Lone Gunman
Forhotea Corporation
Posted - 2009.03.09 21:24:00 - [54]
 

It's not you, patches are always done on Tuesdays because there are ALWAYS problems on Wednesday and they don't get most of them fixed until Friday. So it's somewhat playable on the weekend when most people log on. You should have been here when they put out patches on Friday.

Naga Tokiba
Posted - 2009.03.09 21:28:00 - [55]
 

Crying or Very sad And I was looking forward til WIS in this expansion Crying or Very sad

Kaaii
Caldari
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
KAAII-NET
Posted - 2009.03.09 21:59:00 - [56]
 



Can you still disband alliances with a single click?

Rolling Eyes


Vulgaris
Caldari
ASSIMULATED FREEDOM
Posted - 2009.03.09 22:07:00 - [57]
 

Mother of God....now these guys read and reply to topic's!!!!!!! read the dev blogs and patch notes and please stop asking Noob questions.........Fingers crossed all goes well CCP.....MAKE us proud and keep to the time frame....
Yarrrrr pirating in wormhole space...Twisted Evil

Botia Macracantha
Minmatar
Volition Cult
Posted - 2009.03.09 22:25:00 - [58]
 

My current classic client says it is 75883, I am downloading the conversion from 75883 classic to premium patch, but the patch notes for tomorrows expansion say :

Build 75884 to 83913 addresses Patch Notes for Apocrypha ...

Is this a problem ?

Takeshi Yamato
Posted - 2009.03.09 22:28:00 - [59]
 

Thanks for this new expansion, CCP!

Can't wait till tomorrow evening :)

Bro918
Posted - 2009.03.09 22:33:00 - [60]
 

Hi, im bro918 and im kinda a newbie, i have a couple questions... I dont think i live in GMC ( whatever that stands for lol) i was wondering if someone could translate when Apocrypha will be out to download but to Central time(i live in about central Canada) so could someone pls translate that!?!?! And speaking of downloads, how can i download Apocrypha? will i need to donwload the Premium download first then download Premium Lite!??! pls help cause im VERY confused. Confused And how do i join the Singularity server? the one for testing the new updats and wormholes etc. do i need to like sign up or what? Thanks, Bro918 :)


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