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david1090879
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.13 13:38:00 - [1]
 

I was just on my way back from Stacmon to PC9 0.0 region (Syndicate), half way through the jumps I get followed by a known pirate - I believe he was in a faster ship, and started to chase me.

I keep moving as I have the instas and shouldnt get time to lock me if I warp though the route of gates immedaitely, on the next gate I was cought by a game bug. I clicked jump from coming out of warp alittle too early "Jump in progress" appeared however I remained in the system (My pirate is now locking me) 10 seconds till I am locked.

I m clicking the stop ship command, and try and warp, still stuck. - I am now fully locked by this nasty pirate, warp scrambled and webbed...... Hence the end of my 110 Isk raven...

I have sent a petition to ccp ! I hope they have this logged on their severs properly, as this was totally unfair. If I do not get a +++ response from them then Im.

If it hadnt have been for this damm bug I know my ship would still be here, I shouldnt have to work around bugs like this...

my question is has anyone had any similair expierences to this, and had any positive reponses.

If I do get a neg response then I am back in empire and would love to help someone with a mining op while I rebuild my isk.

Barth3zzzNL
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Posted - 2004.08.13 13:45:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 13/08/2004 13:46:33
A: Insurance is your friend, wth are you taking an uninsured raven into 0.0 for? Confused

B: That bug has been around for a while.

C: Pirates rule! YARRRR!!

xAoC2
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2004.08.13 13:52:00 - [3]
 

its a well known bug. but surely anyone using insta's knows..never EVER press jump while coming out of warp!!! you gotta give it a couple of seconds, the pirate isnt gonna do much in a couple seconds. stay calm and dont panic. afaik its the only way of avoiding this bug.Confused

david1090879
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.13 13:52:00 - [4]
 

i was insured it the fact that every time I looose a bs due to either a bug or pirates I loose 30 mill insurance money.

30 mill is still too much to loose. -

could anyone answer my first question, has anyone had ++ response to this type of petition or been on the receiving end

david1090879
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.13 13:53:00 - [5]
 

xAoC2 ???

will they compensate me for it due to this being a bug

Kozak
Caldari
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2004.08.13 13:58:00 - [6]
 

Best way to avoid this bug, is to use autopilot. Turn it on while in warp, and off once you get the jumping message.

I would petition and you may get your stuff back, but i wouldn't hold my breath.

Xendie
Ad Astra Vexillum
Sc0rched Earth
Posted - 2004.08.13 13:58:00 - [7]
 

i dont think it is a bug since you only get that if you havent completely gotten out of warp before you hit jump.
i never get that if i make sure i am out of warp completely, but ive gotten it if i try to hit jump to early.

and yes insurance is your friend.
as for going into 0.0 and getting depressed when your ship gets blown up, no need since when you go to 0.0 you should already have kissed the ship goodbye and be prepared to loose it if so be.
no need to cry over 1's and 0's that resides on a computer in iceland.
just go and play for fun instead.

david1090879
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.13 14:07:00 - [8]
 

was insured it, that wasnt my question.

I would like to know if anyone has had any responses from any petitions when in a similair situation.

Randuin MaraL
Minmatar
Encina Technologies
Namtz'aar k'in
Posted - 2004.08.13 14:08:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: david1090879

could anyone answer my first question, has anyone had ++ response to this type of petition or been on the receiving end


I never had to petition such a thing. GM comments and decisions are very rarely, if ever, discussed on the forums. Patience is what you need now. If you disagree with GM decision, discuss with them - might you can add more details for them to judge your case. But do not discuss here Wink

Ifni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2004.08.13 14:11:00 - [10]
 

You mean this Raven?

S3VYN
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Posted - 2004.08.13 14:15:00 - [11]
 

Quote:
Hence the end of my 110 Isk raven...


Wish I could get my Ravens for 110 isk. I'd let pirates blow them up for sport too.

david1090879
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.13 14:15:00 - [12]
 

thats the one -

Im not quiting I will be back.

david1090879
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.13 14:16:00 - [13]
 

well since Its very unlikely I will get the money back, I will have to do either mining or missions in empire -

anyone willing to join up with me?

Naqq
stone grave haulage
PROBABLE CAUSE
Posted - 2004.08.13 14:18:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Xendie
i dont think it is a bug since you only get that if you havent completely gotten out of warp before you hit jump.
i never get that if i make sure i am out of warp completely, but ive gotten it if i try to hit jump to early.



Noob, no offence.
It is a bug, or atleast I hope so, even if you wait untill you get down to 'normal' flying speed you still get this message, as a previous posted wrote the best workaround for this is using the autopilot to jump with your instas or make sure you try to move your ship before you jump.
In case you remember when some people had to move their ship a little before you could warp to them in gang(said gangster not in system if they didn't move after getting outta warp) same case here.

Gl hf.

david1090879
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.13 14:21:00 - [15]
 

I do not take any offense being called a noob, I have not been playing that long in comparison to most of the pirates.

Im only looking for someone to help me out now as most of my corp is now in pc9 , im not returning there until i have more skill points and cash to replace any more ships

infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg

Xendie
Ad Astra Vexillum
Sc0rched Earth
Posted - 2004.08.13 14:58:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Naqq
Originally by: Xendie
i dont think it is a bug since you only get that if you havent completely gotten out of warp before you hit jump.
i never get that if i make sure i am out of warp completely, but ive gotten it if i try to hit jump to early.



Noob, no offence.
It is a bug, or atleast I hope so, even if you wait untill you get down to 'normal' flying speed you still get this message, as a previous posted wrote the best workaround for this is using the autopilot to jump with your instas or make sure you try to move your ship before you jump.
In case you remember when some people had to move their ship a little before you could warp to them in gang(said gangster not in system if they didn't move after getting outta warp) same case here.

Gl hf.



well i have never had that problem with not being able to jump unless i hadnt gotten out of warp completely first.
simple as that.
as for the "noob" remark heres some education for you...
the term "n00b" (note spelling with 2 00 instead of 2 oo as you did) is a age old computer slang word that was used for "newbie's" wich werent ever able to learn anything even though they were told how things work over and over again compared to the "Newbie" who is a person who are new but are able to learn compared to the "n00b" who will never be able to learn.

also i might add that it is always the 1337 n00bs who spell it "noob so guess where i put your lame flame attempt.

fact still stand that i dont think it is bug as i have never had it happen to me when ive have come out of warp completely only when i have tried to jump before im completely out of warp.

FuPhal
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:06:00 - [17]
 

no0b ? :/

Shade Widow
Gallente
Maximum Velocity Munitions
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:18:00 - [18]
 

NOOB--Angry noob
n00b--Idiot
newbie--new to game
NoOob--idiot newbie
NOob--angry idiot newbie
NoOb--angry idiot
noobish--The act of being an idiot
newblert--insignificant idiot
Noobie--new to game but a moron
noobs--Many morons
NOobs--Many angry idiots.


Questions?

Shade Widow
Gallente
Maximum Velocity Munitions
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:19:00 - [19]
 

Theres actually a 10 page list but I didnt feel like posting it..

Ifni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:25:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Ifni on 13/08/2004 15:34:08
Originally by: david1090879
I do not take any offense being called a noob, I have not been playing that long in comparison to most of the pirates.

Im only looking for someone to help me out now as most of my corp is now in pc9 , im not returning there until i have more skill points and cash to replace any more ships

infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg


re read the link i posted. i didnt kill you. it was m0o that killed you , unless you lost more than one...? not that i wouldnt try :)

Nilkarus
Gallente
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:26:00 - [21]
 

Ahem... If you're talking about today when I shot down your raven, I think you're a little confused about the sequence of events.

You instaed to the zvn gate, I did the same. Now, you sat there a while, which I'm guessing is when you were having the jump problems. All that did was allow me to catch up. I locked you, and waited for you to jump. I followed...

On the OTHER side of the gate, I scrambled you (no web) and proceeded to open fire (you being 12km from the gate here). You logged off in response.

If you do get your ship back from the GM's from blaming it on that jump session change bug, kudos to you for pulling the wool over their eyes.

FuPhal
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:31:00 - [22]
 

Well ure name doesnt appear on the kill mail? :/ unless it was an alt of ures?

Nilkarus
Gallente
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:32:00 - [23]
 

Kill mail:

2004.08.13 12:41:00

Victim: david1090879
Corporation: EverCorp.
Destroyed Type: Raven
Solar System: ZVN5-H
System Security Level: 0.0

Involved parties:

Name: Nilkarus (laid the final blow)
Security Status: -1.4
Corporation: Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
Ship Type: Raven
Weapon Type: Mjolnir Torpedo I



Destroyed items:

Type: Mexallon (Cargo)
Quantity: 961

Type: Nocxium (Cargo)
Quantity: 1

Type: Zydrine (Cargo)
Quantity: 1

Type: Overdrive Injector System I (Cargo)

Type: Heavy Missile Launcher I (Cargo)

Type: Heavy Missile Launcher I (Cargo)

Type: Widowmaker Heavy Missile I (Cargo)
Quantity: 1

Type: Miner II (Cargo)

Type: Miner II (Cargo)

Type: Miner II (Cargo)

Type: Power Diagnostic System I (Fitted - Low slot)

Type: Power Diagnostic System I (Fitted - Low slot)

Type: Cap Recharger I (Fitted - Medium slot)

Type: Siege Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)

Type: Siege Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)

Type: Cruise Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)

Type: Cruise Missile Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)

Type: Basic Mining Drone (Drone Bay)




Was this morning. And... He had NO missiles loaded or dropped at all, figure that one out. (Probably why he just logged.)

Defcon2
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:32:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: david1090879

infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg


Infiny, getting kills? You must be mistaken Wink

Ifni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:35:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Defcon2
Originally by: david1090879

infiny I hope you enjoy killing noobs and its makes you feel bigggg


Infiny, getting kills? You must be mistaken Wink


can no one read? I F N I

Defcon2
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:38:00 - [26]
 

I like Infiny better Cool

Koda
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:42:00 - [27]
 

Given the time stamps on the kill mails, it looks like 2 Ravens in 2 days Shocked

FuPhal
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.13 15:54:00 - [28]
 

Id start using frigates :P theyre cheaper

The Ratfink
Posted - 2004.08.13 16:47:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: david1090879


I m clicking the stop ship command, and try and warp, still stuck. - I am now fully locked by this nasty pirate, warp scrambled and webbed...... Hence the end of my 110 Isk raven...



I wanna know your battleship supplier i'll buy thousands of ravens

DJTheBaron
Caldari
FinFleet
KenZoku
Posted - 2004.08.13 17:14:00 - [30]
 

to my knowledge ccp do not refind you for that obious jump bug, just the other day we had to sacrifice 2 cruisers to draw fire from a jump bugged raven that was being chased, luckily theyd ecided to scramble 2 cruisers instead of a battleship lol

i lost a rifter and a pod to this bug, had the logs stating both, had a screenshot of, after i got podde,d is een my corpse, autopiliot jumping, i had a 0 structure 0 armour and sheild building up pod in the next system

through about 5 replies from a gm i was told i would not be reemburssed, this wasnt a bug, im lucky it was only a rifter i lost...


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