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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:08:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 04/03/2009 10:10:38
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Oh look, An "EVE IS DYING" whine thread. How common.

Oh, look, somebody who doesn't get it. How common. No, this is NOT an "EVE is dying" thread, it's a "EVE is slowly becoming what we used to hate, namely WOW in space".

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Oh and by the way - The player count on EVE has drastically risen since all of those changes you've mentioned took place, therefore if anything - EVE is doing quite the opposite of dying.

WOW IN FRICKIN' SPACE !

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You might as well leave. I doubt CCP will care. 5 year veteran or not, you pay the same amount as a newb that would take your place. Oh and your stuff, contract it to me.

No, we disgruntled oldbies WON'T leave, because EVE is still the best game out there IN SPITE of its ever-dwindling harshness and increasing wowification.
And you can be sure we WON'T give you any of our stuff, we'll friggin' blow it all to hell in a "kill everything that lives until you die" style before the last days of subscription time runs out shortly before this no longer will be possible.

Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:09:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Rells

First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.

Second of all, stay in highsec where you can hide behind your mommy's skirts bcause its carebears like you that are so fun to kill and send crying.


A. I don't want your ball-sweat, fgt.

B. Hells yes I'm staying in High Sec - Training for an Orca. Gonna make me some MAD isks off the Veld. You seen the price of that ****?

C. Congratulations - You have successfully gained 3cm of E-Peen for an elitist post.

Delkin
Amarr
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:10:00 - [33]
 

So you want a server rollback? everyone goes back to mining in cruisers while the elite run around with lows full of damage mods insta popping those less worthy?

A lot of changes were a result of players finding ways round how ccp thought the game should played. Just how many were online then 2k-4k if that.

When you ventured out to plunder 0.0 you may have stood a chance to profit from the spoils, now you have a hard job of avoiding treading on some ones patch even though you just spent a month out there without seeing anyone in their claimed area.

The small amount of highends in empire pale with the amounts coming from the drone regions, which then made ccp change the refine content of alloys, the price crash of zydrine/megacyte was clear down to the drone region. The current upset seems to point back to when ccp stopped npc's selling shuttles, trit now got no cap so blame ccp for making trit the highest in build spec.

You get plenty of pvp on the test server why because everything cost 100isk, you got less in TQ why the cost plain and simple.

As many would say when changes happen "Adapt"



Tzar'rim
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:10:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 04/03/2009 10:09:26
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Oh look, An "EVE IS DYING" whine thread. How common.

Oh, look, somebody who doesn't get it. How common. No, this is NOT an "EVE is dying" thread, it's a "EVE is slowly becoming what we used to hate, namely WOW in space".

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Oh and by the way - The player count on EVE has drastically risen since all of those changes you've mentioned took place, therefore if anything - EVE is doing quite the opposite of dying.

WOW IN FRICKIN' SPACE !

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You might as well leave. I doubt CCP will care. 5 year veteran or not, you pay the same amount as a newb that would take your place. Oh and your stuff, contract it to me.

No, we disgruntled oldbies WON'T leave, because EVE is still the best game out there IN SPITE of its ever-dwindling harshness and increasing wowification.
And you can be sure we WON'T give you any of our stuff, we'll friggin' blow it all to hell in a "kill everything that lives until you die" style before the last days of subscription time runs out.



<3

Rells
Caldari
Fusillade.
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:11:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Akita T

And you can be sure we WON'T give you any of our stuff, we'll friggin' blow it all to hell in a "kill everything that lives until you die" style before the last days of subscription time runs out.



Wouldnt it be great if we got everyone in 0.0 together and just CLOSED lowsec to all these carebears? One massive alliance to wipe out any carebear comming in lowsec. It would be glorious. Of course the carebears have no balls so they would just hide and whine to CCP.

Doctor Penguin
Amarr
Sacred Templars
Black Star Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:11:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Doctor Penguin on 04/03/2009 10:11:50
*Doctor Penguin looks out of a window in the UW9 station, down in Curse. A few Russians fly past, being shot at by Tenth Legion. A large chunk of metal, careening madly from an earlier explosion, slams into the metal of the station beside the window, making a dull thunk sound. Doctor Penguin sighs, wanders over to his pod and plugs in, immersing himself in his Arbitrator once more...*

- Signed, a 4 month old newbie.

Xoth Freefall
Minmatar
Massively Mob
Massively Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:15:00 - [37]
 

Why do people always write like people stay in one place? I know people and I have myself, moved and lived in many areas of space (high-sec, low-sec, 0.0).

Also isn't losing sp when you lose a t3 ship rather "harsh"?

Karlemgne
Tides Of War
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:15:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Karlemgne on 04/03/2009 10:19:11
Originally by: Rells
Originally by: TimMc
I joined with Revelations, so cannot speak about the changes from beginning to now.
Everyone will agree that CCP would not have nearly as many subs if it stayed as hardcore as the beginning, people need to be brought in safely and then nudged into the danger and fun.



No I will NOT agree with that. Just because there is a proven market for chocolate doesnt mean there is no market at all for vanila. There are dozens of PvE games to be had, we dont need to turn Eve into yet another. There are THOUSANDS of 0.0 players that are now gone because of what I have described. Just because they were replaced with thousands of carebears doesnt mean they didnt exist in the first place.


Excuse me, but as sad as this makes me, this is still a capitalist world. And as a capitalist entity, a company, in fact, CCP is trying to make money. So they've softened the edges of the game. So f'ing what?

As a pirate for 3 years my biggest complaint IS NOT (since you like to capitalize) lack of targets, lack of people participating in pvp, etc. Its actually the blobbing. Its actually the fact that ALL of 0.0 is owned by huge alliances, and that there is no room for small corps and small gang pvp.

So really, as far as I'm concerned you can give me your stuff, or give it to someone else, and leave eve or you can stop your melodramatic gesturing and come up with something less emo and more constructive to say.

-Karlemgne

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:16:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 04/03/2009 10:17:37
Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Akita T
And you can be sure we WON'T give you any of our stuff, we'll friggin' blow it all to hell in a "kill everything that lives until you die" style before the last days of subscription time runs out.

Wouldnt it be great if we got everyone in 0.0 together and just CLOSED lowsec to all these carebears? One massive alliance to wipe out any carebear comming in lowsec. It would be glorious. Of course the carebears have no balls so they would just hide and whine to CCP.

No, it would be a zillion times better if lowsec AVERAGE rewards would be 2-3 times larger than AVERAGE highsec rewards, and 0.0 rewards up to 10 times larger... THEN see who has the balls to try go into lowsec/0.0
Oh, wait, that's how it used to be in EVE for the first couple of years, but nowadays the averages are LOWER in lowsec, with 0.0 barely a bit above highsec.
Bad CCP, bad !

P.S. Also, the whole "larger blob almost always wins" and "sucky POS warfare for sov" would have to be looked at THOROUGHLY too.

4rc4ng3L
Gallente
C R Y O
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:18:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Akita T

And you can be sure we WON'T give you any of our stuff, we'll friggin' blow it all to hell in a "kill everything that lives until you die" style before the last days of subscription time runs out.



Wouldnt it be great if we got everyone in 0.0 together and just CLOSED lowsec to all these carebears? One massive alliance to wipe out any carebear comming in lowsec. It would be glorious. Of course the carebears have no balls so they would just hide and whine to CCP.


Ohh please, your so up yourself you've ruined any validity and intelligence your op had.

Easy to give your opinion but hard to accept others ehhh?

Juwi Kotch
KOTCH Construction and Anchoring
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:19:00 - [41]
 

Well, compared to other options, EVE still is one of the most PvP centered - if not the most PvP centered - MMOG on the market.

The only other MMOG I know is Ultima Online, which I played for 6 years before I joined EVE in 2005. They had happen the same to it: From a pure PvP game down to a protected carebear game with some PvP zones, which were - when I left - very well deserted. UO has since lost half of their subscription base, but I don't think that is because of its carebear appeal, but because more shiny competition hit the market.

And that is, what EVE safes right now: It has no real competition in SciFi MMOG.

On the other hand, we need to face the fact, that a 100% PvP MMOG would attract a subscription base of 100k players maximum. The RL is full of carebears, real PvP with real losses are to hard to take as something what is meant to be relaxing after a hard day's work. That's the reason why there are no subscription based pure PvP MMOGs: it has no real market.

For those who are looking for pure PvP MMOGs, there is one alternative I know of: UO Freeshards. You can even build one yourself for more or less free. There you simply can make your own rules as you like. But you need to live in a medivial age environment... The other option: scratch the first M from MMOG, and go play Counterstrike & Co. and shoot others. There are no carebears in ego shooters.

Juwi Kotch

Rells
Caldari
Fusillade.
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:21:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Delkin
So you want a server rollback? everyone goes back to mining in cruisers while the elite run around with lows full of damage mods insta popping those less worthy?


I was quite clear in my posts what I wanted. If you have difficulty with reading comprehension, that is not my problem.

Originally by: Delkin
A lot of changes were a result of players finding ways round how ccp thought the game should played. Just how many were online then 2k-4k if that.


And CCP should have held firm. And how would you know how many were there or in 0.0 mr carebear?

Originally by: Delkin
When you ventured out to plunder 0.0 you may have stood a chance to profit from the spoils, now you have a hard job of avoiding treading on some ones patch even though you just spent a month out there without seeing anyone in their claimed area.


Yes. You have to take it. That is called "P" "v" "P". It stands for Player vs. Player. It means you dont fight some easy to defeat computer ship but a living breathing, thinking person. The least of which in 0.0 is far more skilled than your carebear mind can comprehend. You cant just go out solo and be safe. You have to organize and cooperate and so on. *gasp* Cant have that can we?

Originally by: Delkin
The small amount of highends in empire pale with the amounts coming from the drone regions, which then made ccp change the refine content of alloys, the price crash of zydrine/megacyte was clear down to the drone region. The current upset seems to point back to when ccp stopped npc's selling shuttles, trit now got no cap so blame ccp for making trit the highest in build spec.


Pure proof that you dont know crap abotu 0.0. You could fly a fleet of freighters through the drone regions without seeing anyone. I know corps out there often dont even bother to escort til the hit venal. There is NOTHING out there beyond a bit of moon mining. NOTHING Drone rats in that area arent worth the effort because of the huge logistics and low payoff. Most of the dropped alloys come from level 4 missions in which TENS of THOUSANDS of rats are killed per day.

Originally by: Delkin
You get plenty of pvp on the test server why because everything cost 100isk, you got less in TQ why the cost plain and simple.

As many would say when changes happen "Adapt"



We just shoot carebears like you. That is how we adapt. But this post is about eve as a whole. An eve that you frankly dont have the kahunas to live in.

Rells
Caldari
Fusillade.
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:22:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: 4rc4ng3L
Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Akita T

And you can be sure we WON'T give you any of our stuff, we'll friggin' blow it all to hell in a "kill everything that lives until you die" style before the last days of subscription time runs out.



Wouldnt it be great if we got everyone in 0.0 together and just CLOSED lowsec to all these carebears? One massive alliance to wipe out any carebear comming in lowsec. It would be glorious. Of course the carebears have no balls so they would just hide and whine to CCP.


Ohh please, your so up yourself you've ruined any validity and intelligence your op had.

Easy to give your opinion but hard to accept others ehhh?


I dont care if you think i am valid or not. I and my corp have done far more for Eve than you ever will. So your opinion of me is less than irrelevant.

Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:23:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Rawr.



So uh, continue to whine then? Doesn't really bother me.

WoW in space, it has a long way to go to hit that. Namely the replacement of skill training with grinding XP for skillpoints - the removal of CSM, all space 1.0, no POS's, all ships cost nothing and modules are gained from rats and rats only...
I mean I've done PVP - but the simple fact is, i'm way too lazy to bother. Its fun sometimes if you can actually get a bit of Solo these days. Regardless I still suck. T1 Cruisers ftw.

Usually I'll jump into god knows where, tag a guy - inevitably start to lose but then lose a whole lot faster when his entire corp warps in to bust my ass.

Regardless, this level of molestation still exists in EVE. You still lose everything when you pop, you lose time - and time is money. The BoB thing? I can't really see that happening in WoW - hell, that **** even got into the BBC news.

It depends how harsh you want it to be, but at the end of the day - CCP are a company. They want a bigger userbase - the last thing they're going to do is remain in such a niche that dooms them to not having enough subscribers to pay their employees.

EVE is still NOTHING at all like WoW, its no where near that level of basic, repetitive grindfest idiocy that every player in WoW needs to partake in to hit "Endgame".

If you can suggest to me what actually makes EVE like WoW apart from the existance of Empire space and players that enjoy PVE content and market activity, then let me know.

Karlemgne
Tides Of War
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:25:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Akita T

Oh, look, somebody who doesn't get it. How common. No, this is NOT an "EVE is dying" thread, it's a "EVE is slowly becoming what we used to hate, namely WOW in space".


Bull****. Eve is not becoming WoW in space. Eve continues to be a game where I get an adrenaline rush from pvp. It remains a game where anyone can be ganked by anyone, anywhere. It remains a game where people can be scammed out of their isk, items and real life cash (plex cards).

Eve remains a game where I risk all when I fight, I don't just ****ing respawn, and I can taste the tears of my enemy.

You all, in all honesty, have some ****ed up distorted view of the "way things were" and the "way things are."


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And you can be sure we WON'T give you any of our stuff


From one "oldbie" to another, I implore you to change your mind, and contract your stuff to me.

-Karlemgne

4rc4ng3L
Gallente
C R Y O
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:26:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Rells
Originally by: 4rc4ng3L
Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Akita T

And you can be sure we WON'T give you any of our stuff, we'll friggin' blow it all to hell in a "kill everything that lives until you die" style before the last days of subscription time runs out.



Wouldnt it be great if we got everyone in 0.0 together and just CLOSED lowsec to all these carebears? One massive alliance to wipe out any carebear comming in lowsec. It would be glorious. Of course the carebears have no balls so they would just hide and whine to CCP.


Ohh please, your so up yourself you've ruined any validity and intelligence your op had.

Easy to give your opinion but hard to accept others ehhh?


I dont care if you think i am valid or not. I and my corp have done far more for Eve than you ever will. So your opinion of me is less than irrelevant.


Well you quite obviously proved i was right when i said i you were up yourself.

And i love the way you assume you know anything i'v done in relation to or for eve :p

fyi, your becoming a bit whiney, i'd keep it on track if you want this tread to be taken seriously lol

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:29:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 04/03/2009 10:30:12
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
EVE is still NOTHING at all like WoW, its no where near that level of basic, repetitive grindfest idiocy that every player in WoW needs to partake in to hit "Endgame".

And that's why we still play EVE.
But with every iteration, we see it slipping CLOSER to that.
It doesn't really matter if it would NEVER actually get to be "WOW in space", it's already getting close enough to be cause for worry.

Even right now, the fact that the fundamental "balance" between highsec/lowsec/0.0 "risk+effort vs reward" is disrupted badly, with CCP not even budging a finger (visibly, because I have no idea what they ACTUALLY do in the background if they aren't saying anything) is a red flag, a huge, wavy, red flag.

Trader20
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:30:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Trader20 on 04/03/2009 10:30:51
QQ more, CCP is in the bizz to make money not to cater to whiney vets like you.
TL;DR version: Stop whining

Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:31:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: 4rc4ng3L

Well you quite obviously proved i was right when i said i you were up yourself.

And i love the way you assume you know anything i'v done in relation to or for eve :p

fyi, your becoming a bit whiney, i'd keep it on track if you want this tread to be taken seriously lol


Didn't you know? As soon as you hit "5 year Vet" status they give you a soapbox and inject you with delusions of grandeur.

You start thinking that EVE is real-life, and you forget it's just a game for people to enjoy.

At this point you disregard everyone elses play-style and enforce your own, demanding that every ship, every where, must be ganked at least 10 times before it reaches its destination. Also CONCORD must be removed so other "5 year Vets" can sit in smartbombing ravens and camp the station exit.

You also get the idea that despite everything in EVE costing millions, Level 4 missions such as Enemies Abound (all 5 missions) should only pay out 3m isk including tags.

Such is the way of the "5 year Veteran".

"Bring back PVP, **** up the carebears, unbalance the market, destroy EVE and nerf CCP's income"

Its an age old story, you just have to sit back and watch them go on, like old people tend to do when talking about "the wars".

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:32:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 04/03/2009 10:33:02
Originally by: Trader20
QQ more, CCP is in the bis to make money not to cater to whiney vets like you.

And they CAN make all the money they want to by making highsec better/safer/whatever.
But NOT making lowsec/0.0 better but also riskier (since it's better, the risk automatically increases with the current rules) at the same time is a mistake.
CCP has continously improved on highsec, while barely touching lowsec/0.0... no, scratch that, they ALLOWED lowsec to slip below highsec in risk+effort/rewards, which is even worse.

4rc4ng3L
Gallente
C R Y O
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:36:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Originally by: 4rc4ng3L

Well you quite obviously proved i was right when i said i you were up yourself.

And i love the way you assume you know anything i'v done in relation to or for eve :p

fyi, your becoming a bit whiney, i'd keep it on track if you want this tread to be taken seriously lol


Didn't you know? As soon as you hit "5 year Vet" status they give you a soapbox and inject you with delusions of grandeur.

You start thinking that EVE is real-life, and you forget it's just a game for people to enjoy.

At this point you disregard everyone elses play-style and enforce your own, demanding that every ship, every where, must be ganked at least 10 times before it reaches its destination. Also CONCORD must be removed so other "5 year Vets" can sit in smartbombing ravens and camp the station exit.

You also get the idea that despite everything in EVE costing millions, Level 4 missions such as Enemies Abound (all 5 missions) should only pay out 3m isk including tags.

Such is the way of the "5 year Veteran".

"Bring back PVP, **** up the carebears, unbalance the market, destroy EVE and nerf CCP's income"

Its an age old story, you just have to sit back and watch them go on, like old people tend to do when talking about "the wars".


LaughingLaughingLaughing




Jalif
Minmatar
Snuff Box
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:39:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Juwi Kotch

And that is, what EVE safes right now: It has no real competition in SciFi MMOG.



Not YET

Avalon Champion
Black Thorne Corporation
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:41:00 - [53]
 


I am what would be described as a highsec carebear, and totally agree with the Rells, I've been to 0.0 (drone regions with FREGE) and it was good money but very high risk, a former corp lost about 4-5 bil in assets when Frege imploded.

The only truely safe havens should be 1.0 with concord responses progresively lower based on system sec, eg 0.9 5 secs, 0.8 10-15 sec, 0.7 15-20 sec, 0.6 20-25, and in a 0.5 with a 30+ seconds.

What else can CCP do :

1) Remove all fixed DED complexes from High sec, or at least make them scannable only
2) remove high quality agents from High sec, move them to Lo-sec
3) give the rats in missions more AI, and randomise the types, and quantity more so you get more risk.
4) Roid belts make them scannable only, that might help allievate the Macro problem
5) force people out of Noob corps (3 month limit) and into tier 2 NPC corps, and FFS make them a taxable isk sink at between 15-25%, people dont want to pay tax, they form their own (decable) corp Evil or Very Mad



wallenbergaren
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:43:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: wallenbergaren on 04/03/2009 10:44:43
Edited by: wallenbergaren on 04/03/2009 10:43:26
Originally by: Rells

It must be the fact that I am 38 and not from the newer generation. When I grew up, honor, ethics, integrity, and principles were not seen as obstacles. We are in the midst of the "ME" generation I suppose but it is a generation that has lost the ability to think and reason rationally. They emote but they dont consider. They rant but don't calculate. They want it all now and cant see the long term impact of their foolish decisions.


I agreed with your OP, but this is just a load of s***
Generalizing a whole generation... way to go dude

What a joke post

Also, I agree with the poster above me. Different concord response times depending on sec would be good

Ranik Sandaris
Caldari
The Centurions
Eternus Imperium Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:46:00 - [55]
 

I have to agree with the OP on this one.
I have only been playing this game for little over a year, but have learnt from many vets just what this game was like in the start. I mean sure, we do need some safe places, but as has allready been stated, people need a hell of a lot more of a "nudge" (it should really be a massive kick up the arse) to go out in to low and 0.0.

As for "EvE isnt dying" well no its not, but at the end of it all it wont really be EvE anymore. It will be somthing akin to WoW in space.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:48:00 - [56]
 

"carebears carebears carebears wah wah wah killing EVE whine whine whine frakking whine."

Since WHEN did the "hardcore PvPers" start whining about the actions of other players MORE THAN THE SMEGGING CAREBEARS DO?! For feth's sake....



Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:50:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Ranik Sandaris
It will be somthing akin to WoW in space.


When we start having to grind rats to gain skillpoints then yeah, you can call it WoW in space - otherwise just... stop... being an idiot.

D'ya wanna tell me why people MUST go into Low/Null sec btw? Any particular reason why?

Because its empty? Space is empty in general.

Because you need more easy targets? Thats it.

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:50:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 04/03/2009 10:54:49
Originally by: Jalif
Originally by: Juwi Kotch

And that is, what EVE safes right now: It has no real competition in SciFi MMOG.



Not YET


I think that competition is what in fact will save EVE. When we get those pure PvE themepark sci-fi games on the market, they will take some of those people away from EVE. Those new games will be designed for it and CCP would have to scrap most of what is already in the game to compete with them and that would be a suicide for EVE. CCP can then stop appeasing the people wanting easy access, no risk themepark rides and continue to build on the games own strengths.

EDIT: Just for clarity I'm mostly pretty happy with the current EVE, but some of CCPs ideas have been pretty lacking and they have ignored lot of the problems with lowsec and sovereignty. I would like to see a push to bring more meat to the current content and expanding/improving existing mechanics.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:54:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Reven Cordelle
D'ya wanna tell me why people MUST go into Low/Null sec btw? Any particular reason why?
Because its empty? Space is empty in general.
Because you need more easy targets? Thats it.

Peoplke should WANT to go to lowsec (or 0.0) because rewards there would be better than highsec, even if risk would also be higher.
Right now, that's not really the case, especially for lowsec.
For "alliance-controlled 0.0", there indeed you have in general even lower risks than highsec, with slightly better rewards than highsec.

In other words, lowsec needs to become a lot more profitable compared to now, and 0.0 needs to become just a bit more profitable compared to now but also slightly bit more risky even for "established" alliances.

Galleter
Posted - 2009.03.04 10:57:00 - [60]
 

interesting, but eve lowsec/nulsec is dying not because of people in empire and "big trasure there", but for superblocks and infinity digging from moons, isk traders, bot-ice-mining and pirates whos kill even one ibis on gate in big camp. all aliances want to claim all 0.0, there is no space for smaller - this is an efect of destroying evryfing in low sec / 0.0 for FUN.
and now some people wake up - and say - people come to 0.0 please... but many many people dont need this 0.0 and dont want live and build there.

jump gates are the mistake. it should not be a jump gate on lowsec, 0.0 and one spown point (like it is now)
it should be one big exploration. local is mistake - only lags are because of this local - even in delay mode.
now you have 1 hour and you have on the another corner of the map flying on 0.0, lowsec - mistake! it should take alot
of time to travel around that amount of space when you fly on uncyvilized lowsec or 0.0 - now we have empire everyware and hi end technology... indestructible gates. fast travel should be possible only in empire, or by jumpbridge if you build it.
sov is total failure, everyone should be able to build jump bridges even like this hi-sec -> lowsec
moons with infinity and determined minerals are MISTAKE, titans are totaly failure. there are far too less cosmic base structures.
should be cheap one, should be very very expensive, everyone should be able to buy and anhor "plasere garden" and other staff like this to build own base - for fun too - not only for isk and world domination - and base should be anhorable not only on moon orbit.
it is just stupid... i dont want mine moonminerals, i want to have fun building it and heaving it or using it for small base on lowsec.

players are not truly powerfull - eve is game where lots of pure ships are better than small group of good ships. I think t2/t3 ships should have an option - transfer SP to the ship - more you transfer than more powerfull you are (more cpu, more grid, even more slots beyound 8, more cap, and extra bonuses like more or less immunity for electronic warefare, upgreaded armor repairer, upgraded resists etc...) - but if the ship has been destroyed, you lost this sp. powerfull means powerfull not usless because you been atacked by 10 destroyers or badgers.

so... if eve evolve for somethink like this...
there will no empty (without people) lowsec anymore.


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