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cianide pro
Posted - 2009.02.19 17:30:00 - [1]
 

I cant find it on the test server as I was curious about how this skill would be changed as the scan time reduction aint an issue.

Will the bonus be changed or does the skill totally change into another? Though as this happens I hope it does give the same training time/value as its lvl5 is quite long.

Any one could shine some light on this?

Shaemell Buttleson
Posted - 2009.02.19 18:31:00 - [2]
 

It's allready seeded and on Tranguility now.

Look in the science section.


Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.02.19 19:28:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
It's allready seeded and on Tranguility now.

Look in the science section.




Fail. try again.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.02.19 21:12:00 - [4]
 

It has not been decided yet, but most likely all probe cycle time bonuses will be replaced by scan strength bonuses.

cianide pro
Posted - 2009.02.20 06:40:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Akita T
It has not been decided yet, but most likely all probe cycle time bonuses will be replaced by scan strength bonuses.



I hope its getting a bonus that is worth the rank 8

Dak Sagitarum
Posted - 2009.02.20 08:35:00 - [6]
 

Im afraid im the bearer of bad news Shocked

This skill Signal Acquisition has gone from my skill set and has had a name change to;

Astrometric Acquisition - Skill at the advanced operation of long range scanners. 10% reduction in scan probe scan time per level.

As for Astromectric Triangulation - Skill for the advanced operation of long range scanners. 10% increase to scan probe strength per level.

an increase of 5% per level

Useless alt
Posted - 2009.02.20 08:53:00 - [7]
 

CCP has a track record of changing skills and their effects on what ever it is their current description says it affects. Best way to deal with this? Train it to level 5 and in a worst case scenario you get a bonus that is less great then it was before the patch, in the best case scenario you get a bonus that is better then before the patch and in a normal situation you will not get much more or less then you have now.

Unless CCP releases a final version of the patch to tranquility you will never know what is going to be happening to a specific skill, module or ship. That is just the way it is.

Abigail101
Posted - 2009.02.20 11:42:00 - [8]
 

This sounds ominous. With astro pinpointing & triangulation and also signal acquisition maxed out methinks I ought to get onto the test server to see if I'm being paranoid or royally shafted Sad

Khorin D'tael
Caldari
D'tael Contracts
Posted - 2009.02.21 00:30:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
It's allready seeded and on Tranguility now.

Look in the science section.




Fail. try again.


So it isn't on tranquility now?

What skill have I trained up then?




5tewie Griffin
Posted - 2009.02.21 06:57:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Khorin D'tael
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
It's allready seeded and on Tranguility now.

Look in the science section.




Fail. try again.


So it isn't on tranquility now?

What skill have I trained up then?






From th OP I'm guessing that the signal acquisition skill has been removed from sisi and the speculation is as to what it will become and what will happen to those players that already have the skill trained up.

I've been unable to get on sisi for some reason so would appreciate any further feedback from those in the know Confused

Abigail101
Posted - 2009.02.21 06:59:00 - [11]
 

Bah! 5tewie is me! Why hase Eve decided to change my default posting after four years? It's a conspiracy I tell ya Exclamation

cianide pro
Posted - 2009.02.21 07:59:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: 5tewie Griffin


From th OP I'm guessing that the signal acquisition skill has been removed from sisi and the speculation is as to what it will become and what will happen to those players that already have the skill trained up.

I've been unable to get on sisi for some reason so would appreciate any further feedback from those in the know Confused


Correct it seems its removed and now I would like to know/hear what will become of the skill. As we talk about a rank 8 skill we did spend some serious training time to get this up to lvl5 so the change, whatever change, should be worth the time we did spend on it.

A response from ccp on this would be appreciated ;)

Podrage
Silent N00bs
Posted - 2009.02.21 09:17:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Khorin D'tael
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
It's allready seeded and on Tranguility now.

Look in the science section.




Fail. try again.


So it isn't on tranquility now?

What skill have I trained up then?






Fail again. Try again again.

Shaemell Buttleson
Posted - 2009.02.21 09:39:00 - [14]
 

Quality posting from ppl who say fail alot!

It's had a name change so what?


NoNah
Posted - 2009.02.22 07:57:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
Quality posting from ppl who say fail alot!

It's had a name change so what?




Signal Acquisition is a rank 8 skill that lowers scan times by 10%. While the scantime is 600 seconds and it takes numerous scans to do anything that's important. While shipscans take 120 seconds it's downright vital. With Apocrypha it takes 5 seconds to probe, and you don't even need to use a more or less dedicated ship to do it(Hello cov ops) - the same rank 8 skill would lower the speed by an unrealisticly low figure, especially coupled with all the other attributes.

You don't spend a month training a skill that will save you a fraction of a second every now and then, especially not if your latency fluctuations often cause more of an issue than the scantime.

Keiko Shizuka
Posted - 2009.02.22 12:46:00 - [16]
 

I thought all time reducing skills, rigs, ship bonuses and modules were changed to give a Strength bonus instead? This skill should be one of them?

Janus Ovellian
Minmatar
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2009.02.22 12:55:00 - [17]
 

The skills currently on sisi related to scanning are now:

Astrometrics (Rank 3) - Skill at operating long range scanners. Allows one additional probe in space per level.
Astrometric Acquisition (Rank 5) - Skill at the advanced operation of long range scanners. 10% reduction in scan probe scan time per level.
Astrometric Pinpointing (Rank 5) - Greater accuracy in hunting down targets found through scanning. Reduces maximum scan deviation by 10% per level.
Astrometric Triangulation (Rank 8) - Skill for the advanced operation of long range scanners. 10% increase to scan probe strength per level.

The covert ops ship bonus has changed to - Covert Ops Skill Bonus: -98% to -100% reduction in Cloaking Device CPU use per level and 10% increase to scan strength of probes per level.

The gravity capacitor upgrade rig now gives a 10% bonus to scan strength.

The Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher now has a 5% scan strength bonus built in.

Abigail101
Posted - 2009.02.22 19:23:00 - [18]
 

Sorry to be a pain again (still can't get onto sisi) but has anyone had the chance to see how the fancy SoE Virtue implants are affected?

If everything that was scan speed related now appears to be scan strength, do these implants remain stength related? Seems a bit overkill to me.

I ask primarily for selfish reasons, I'm approaching the lp level to acquire the lot, but it's quite an investment to make if thet're not going to be as effective (in relative terms) as they are at present.


Contralto
Rift Tech
Posted - 2009.02.23 05:15:00 - [19]
 

From the Low grade virtue gamma

Quote:
Secondary Effect: 3% bonus to scan strength of probes


From the Sisters Core scanner probe 1

Base sensor strength = 44 points vs 40 points for the standard probe.

Janus Ovellian
Minmatar
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2009.02.23 14:39:00 - [20]
 

Additionally, the PPH and PPG probe implants have changed.

PPH-0 is now 2% scan strength instead of 2% scan duration.
PPH-1 6% strength instead of 6% duration
PPH-2 10% strength instead of 10% duration

PPG-0 is now 2% scan duration instead of 1% scan strength.
PPG-1 6% duration instead of 3% strength
PPG-2 10% duration instead of 5% strength

Virtue implants are unchanged

With max skills, a full set of virtue implants, the PPH-2 implant, a cov-ops rigged with 2 Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I, and a Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher I...
... the strength of the Core Scanner Probe is increased from 40 to 168.

Also, the Sisters Core Scanner Probe has a base strength of 44.

MarieFrance Tessier
Posted - 2009.02.23 22:27:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Janus Ovellian
Additionally, the PPH and PPG probe implants have changed.

PPH-0 is now 2% scan strength instead of 2% scan duration.
PPH-1 6% strength instead of 6% duration
PPH-2 10% strength instead of 10% duration

PPG-0 is now 2% scan duration instead of 1% scan strength.
PPG-1 6% duration instead of 3% strength
PPG-2 10% duration instead of 5% strength

Virtue implants are unchanged

With max skills, a full set of virtue implants, the PPH-2 implant, a cov-ops rigged with 2 Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I, and a Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher I...
... the strength of the Core Scanner Probe is increased from 40 to 168.

Also, the Sisters Core Scanner Probe has a base strength of 44.


If you are already springing for 2 or 3 bill on virtue, get T2 rigs. (though off the top of my head I can't remember if there is a calibration cost issue).

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.02.23 22:33:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: MarieFrance Tessier
If you are already springing for 2 or 3 bill on virtue, get T2 rigs. (though off the top of my head I can't remember if there is a calibration cost issue).

200 calib for T1, sadly.

Dr Caymus
Gallente
Applied Technologies Inc
Agents of Fortune
Posted - 2009.02.24 00:38:00 - [23]
 

The replacement of Signal Acquisition by Astrometric Acquisition, as currently modeled on the test server, poses a problem: loss of skill points. If implemented in its current state, players will have their Signal Acquisition skill, rank 8, replaced by Astrometric Acquisition, rank 5. So... I wonder what happens to those 768,000 incremental skill points? (at level 5)

Cain Calzon
Caldari
Genco
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.24 05:30:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Dr Caymus
The replacement of Signal Acquisition by Astrometric Acquisition, as currently modeled on the test server, poses a problem: loss of skill points. If implemented in its current state, players will have their Signal Acquisition skill, rank 8, replaced by Astrometric Acquisition, rank 5. So... I wonder what happens to those 768,000 incremental skill points? (at level 5)


that isnt true, what they have done is that they have switched from Acquisition to Triangulation and vice versa.

so the old Signal Acquisition have become the new Astrometrics Triangulation and the old Astrometrics Triangulation has become the new Astrometrics Acquisition


 

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