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Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:03:00 - [91]
 

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JackofHearts
Caldari
Unknown Soldiers
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:04:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: Ace Frehley
Removed. Navigator


lmao

Lady Lard
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:06:00 - [93]
 

Twisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted Evil

Morris Falter
Caldari
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:09:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: CDLoon
Posting as a pure neutral, without any Alliance/Corp bias, I fail to see how Darius being a CSM Member has anything to do with his Goonswarm Directorship comments.

Being a CSM does not mean you cant go and shoot Kenny, or anyone else, in the face, nor post it on the forums. And Kenny calling people at home etc, (OOG) has been documented elsewhere, so this can hardly be labelled an accusation.

If you are losing to Darius and co, or don't like them, go shoot them in the face (IG), dont throw the CSM in his face, its out of context and useless. If you dont like him being on the CSM - VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

No bitterness here, nor too much care. GG Goonswarm.




We are, and continue to do so, you've missed the issue. Seeing ebaying, real life harrassment accusations etc which are all totally out of game, on this game-related forum with a CSM tag is the issue.

I would like to know if CSM has a mandate to pursue these accusations, and if so where the proof is, especially speaking as a person who chose this person to represent my interests to CCP.

If there is a crossover from in-game spaceship pew pew politics (for realz!) to this stuff, I don't recall seeing it in the CSM's mandate, nor do I recall the CSM having an oversight function on CCP's internal affairs procedures, which were put into place to stop individuals from abusing contacts or knowledge gained as has happened with known individuals - the t20 scandal and individuals inside bob cheating is well known.

That's all.



Morris Falter
Caldari
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:09:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Muro Deez
100% correct, but the ones complaining are just trolling anyway.


This time, not so much.


Morris Falter
Caldari
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:12:00 - [96]
 

Take your time thinking of a reply, I'll be here.




Sitagacha tasekaka
Amarr
Universal Business Systems
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:13:00 - [97]
 

Z

Tholarim
Amarr
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:15:00 - [98]
 

darius is the new dbp c/d?

Omeega
Amarr
Ab Origines
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:16:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Tholarim
darius is the new dbp c/d?


HAY YOU'RE NOT DEAD YET WHAT THE F***

Elbon Ekaj
Minmatar
Stellar Convertors
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:16:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Tholarim
darius is the new dbp c/d?


d

Darius is the new SpiralJunkie

Kathy Briggs
Amarr
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:17:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Tholarim
darius is the new dbp c/d?

Darius is, shall we say, the new dbp. Twisted Evil


ghost437
Caldari
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:17:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Tholarim
darius is the new dbp c/d?


Thol please dont go overboard. Nothing beats that terrible posting.

Arkady Sadik
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:18:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Darius JOHNSON
I do not want nor care for your surrender. I want every single second of this to hurt. I want it to be as painful for you as possible and I have the people behind me to make this happen.


u mad? Sad

Sorry, always wanted to use a silly Goon meme.

BobZoku is like the professional athlete that wants to be good, but is all arrogant about it, telling everyone else how much he is better than them. Some admire him, some envy him, most hate him.

GoonSwarm is more like the guy who made it a profession to be proud of being bad. Despite repeated (often repeated, way too often) claims to the opposite, he does want to be good, but he just tells everyone and himself that him failing is to be expected. If, then, he succeeds at some point, he's overjoyed and tells everyone of his success (spams CAOD with tons of threads about it - even the annoying aAa "GFGFGF" threads were far less numerous than this chestbeating). In its essence, GoonSwarm is a practical application of the infinite monkey theorem - 6k of people have to get something right if they just try often enough. Works for any of: Fighting in EVE for years, accusing others of cheating, etc.

GoonSwarm are now close to where they always secretly wanted to be: Where BoB was when they joined. The "top dog" position. Their threads sound more and more like the BoB threads from a while ago - hell, Darius' post here could have been directly from Molle a few years ago - the forum posts are less and less the funny, humorous type and more and more the bragging and chestbeating known from the "top dog" alliances...

Welcome to the throne, Goons. I hope you enjoy becoming what you hated.

On a more serious note, I hope all sides in this conflict enjoy it. It did sound like awesome pew pew for a while :-)

Popperr
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:18:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Tholarim
darius is the new dbp c/d?


no hes pretty terrible at getting goons to go out and fight

Omeega
Amarr
Ab Origines
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:19:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Popperr
Originally by: Tholarim
darius is the new dbp c/d?


no hes pretty terrible at getting goons to go out and fight


did you ever meet suas?

Morris Falter
Caldari
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:19:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Tholarim
darius is the new dbp c/d?


Thol, those logs are amazing, never change.


Popperr
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:20:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Omeega
did you ever meet suas?


one time he shouted at me and was drunk and quite possibly high, it was the highlight of my capsuleer career :patriot:

Ezoran DuBlaidd
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:20:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: Morris Falter
Originally by: CDLoon
Posting as a pure neutral, without any Alliance/Corp bias, I fail to see how Darius being a CSM Member has anything to do with his Goonswarm Directorship comments.

Being a CSM does not mean you cant go and shoot Kenny, or anyone else, in the face, nor post it on the forums. And Kenny calling people at home etc, (OOG) has been documented elsewhere, so this can hardly be labelled an accusation.

If you are losing to Darius and co, or don't like them, go shoot them in the face (IG), dont throw the CSM in his face, its out of context and useless. If you dont like him being on the CSM - VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

No bitterness here, nor too much care. GG Goonswarm.




We are, and continue to do so, you've missed the issue. Seeing ebaying, real life harrassment accusations etc which are all totally out of game, on this game-related forum with a CSM tag is the issue.

I would like to know if CSM has a mandate to pursue these accusations, and if so where the proof is, especially speaking as a person who chose this person to represent my interests to CCP.

If there is a crossover from in-game spaceship pew pew politics (for realz!) to this stuff, I don't recall seeing it in the CSM's mandate, nor do I recall the CSM having an oversight function on CCP's internal affairs procedures, which were put into place to stop individuals from abusing contacts or knowledge gained as has happened with known individuals - the t20 scandal and individuals inside bob cheating is well known.

That's all.






did he state, "i as a csm am conducting this as a csm" ? ... because it seems we have two entire forums devoted to csms and questions for them... this being not one of them.

plus, you did not simply state a question, you made *statements* about csm this and that. something you could not get away with on the aforementioned two forums... thusly invalidating the quoted reply which is not entirely accurate, otherwise - no invalidation of your previous statement(s).

Omeega
Amarr
Ab Origines
White Noise.
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:22:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Popperr
Originally by: Omeega
did you ever meet suas?


one time he shouted at me and was drunk and quite possibly high, it was the highlight of my capsuleer career :patriot:


he's saying darius is a gigantic ***got!


Popperr
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:28:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Omeega
he's saying darius is a gigantic ***got!


the sky is blue, evil thug looks like a pre-schooler, darius is a ***got and bob directors would rather post on caod than defend high ends in pr-, all is well with the world

Qlanth
Caldari
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:29:00 - [111]
 

It's hilarious to think that six months to a year ago -A- claimed to hate BoB just as much as GoonSwarm did.

Now they are here defending them publicly.

Molle must have dealt out a real fortune for stuff like this.

Morris Falter
Caldari
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:31:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd

did he state, "i as a csm am conducting this as a csm" ? ... because it seems we have two entire forums devoted to csms and questions for them... this being not one of them.



For example:

Linkage


Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
plus, you did not simply state a question, you made *statements* about csm this and that. something you could not get away with on the aforementioned two forums... thusly invalidating the quoted reply which is not entirely accurate, otherwise - no invalidation of your previous statement(s).


I asked whether a person posting with a CSM tag, which we can all see, and for whom I voted, should be able to make out-of-game harassment accusations, or take it upon themselves to police in-game actions.

If a CSM delegate wishes to engage in borderline harassment activity of their own, such as accusing perfectly legitimate everyday gamers of stuff which is CCP's problem (such as real life transactions, or even having a real life), then that is always going to be open for comment by us, the people who took an interest in the process.


Virtuoso DeToure
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:32:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Qlanth
It's hilarious to think that six months to a year ago -A- claimed to hate BoB just as much as GoonSwarm did.

Now they are here defending them publicly.

Molle must have dealt out a real fortune for stuff like this.


6 months to a year ago AAA was already telling BoB about how they weren't going to attack even though the rest of the coalition was.

Also, this is a terrible OP.

Popperr
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:32:00 - [114]
 

what happened to you morris you used to be cool

Morris Falter
Caldari
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:33:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Qlanth
It's hilarious to think that six months to a year ago -A- claimed to hate BoB just as much as GoonSwarm did.

Now they are here defending them publicly.

Molle must have dealt out a real fortune for stuff like this.


You're applying your own values to a separate and different group, but nice try.


Morris Falter
Caldari
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:35:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Popperr
what happened to you morris you used to be cool


I was never cool :<




Ezoran DuBlaidd
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:37:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Morris Falter
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd

did he state, "i as a csm am conducting this as a csm" ? ... because it seems we have two entire forums devoted to csms and questions for them... this being not one of them.



For example:

Linkage


Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
plus, you did not simply state a question, you made *statements* about csm this and that. something you could not get away with on the aforementioned two forums... thusly invalidating the quoted reply which is not entirely accurate, otherwise - no invalidation of your previous statement(s).


I asked whether a person posting with a CSM tag, which we can all see, and for whom I voted, should be able to make out-of-game harassment accusations, or take it upon themselves to police in-game actions.

If a CSM delegate wishes to engage in borderline harassment activity of their own, such as accusing perfectly legitimate everyday gamers of stuff which is CCP's problem (such as real life transactions, or even having a real life), then that is always going to be open for comment by us, the people who took an interest in the process.





as i stated, there are TWO csm forums for questions/comments/whatever csm-related - if you have a legitimate question for/about a csm, would that NOT be the place to take your csm question/complaint? posting in a caod-wannabe-drama thread - that REALLY is where you think you could get an answer? or, is it just to be offtopic to derail the op? be honest. you know you'd go to the csm forums if you were "for real".

Virtuozzo
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:37:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Morris Falter
Originally by: Popperr
what happened to you morris you used to be cool


I was never cool :<






Chuck Morris is hot, c/d

Popperr
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:38:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Morris Falter
I was never cool :<


naw you were all like, lol goons check out this cool sac fitting, owning hella nubs, well whatevs catcha later :p~

now youre all like

your passionate disenfranchisment of the id as encapsulated by the csm is a reductio absurdo!!




...

Max Mekker
Caldari
Viper Intel Squad
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:38:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Arkady Sadik

BobZoku is like the professional athlete that wants to be good, but is all arrogant about it, telling everyone else how much he is better than them. Some admire him, some envy him, most hate him.


So to put it into perspective of a movie (The Big Lebowski)

Bob/Ken is jesus (nobody f***s with the Jesus)
Goon and Naptrain 09 are The Dude, Walter and Donny? (We dont roll on Shoomer Shabbos)


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