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RedSplat |
Posted - 2009.02.15 13:50:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: RedSplat on 26/02/2009 12:12:47We have a list of Corp thieves and Scammers here http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=603530&page=1, we have various other lists useful to victims and perpetrators alike. To the best of my knowledge C&P doesn't have a list of Corps that honour Ransoms and/or those that don't; and i don't mind taking that on as a little project. Why people choose to honour ransoms or not is not what i would like this thread to address, but rather whom does or does not. Maybe next time you ask for a ransom you might actually get one, the victim might actually get to escape with an unviolenced boat. Or perhaps no-one cares for this. That's fine, in which case let the thread die. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If your corp. honors ransoms, feel free to post and say so, along with any other information you wish to include. If your corp doesn't always bother asking for ransoms but might accept one sometimes and honor it, let the thread know. If anyone sees a Corp up here that doesn't honor ransoms, post a rebuttal- along with proofI will update OP and subsequent place holders as info comes in. If doubt is put upon a Corp details of the accusations and evidence will be included and readers can make up their own mind. One point to make is that i wont be actively searching out whom will or will not honour ransoms of my own accord, avoiding bias you know Disregard, too many threads up lately with juicy info. Feel free to challenge. Proof is preferably to be sent to the Email address specified in the Bio of this character; please put the subject as 'Proof'. Or EVE mailed to this same character --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following Corps aim to offer or accept and honour Ransoms, providing the situation makes this possible, under the terms they may or may not dictate. They may not always offer you a Ransom, if so this will be detailed below, it is however always worth asking.Corp:The Black Rabbits Alliance:The Gurlstas Associates  Originally by: H Lecter
Speaking on behalf of The Guristas Associates I may confirm that our ransoms are being honored. We have a strict Code of Conduct and you may feel free to contact me in game if you experienced differently.
We reserve the right not to offer a ransom to our victim if circumstances do not permit or if we simply do not like you 
Alliance: Blood Money Cartel; appears to be policy alliance wide. Originally by: Eschiava Q
As a member of Blood Money Cartel (alliance) we always honor ransoms.
Corp: Idle Guns Alliance: Idle Empire Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Idle empire honors ransoms. Although just because we honor ransoms doesn't mean we will always give you one. 
Corp:Destinys Lounge Alliance:Important Internet Spaceship League Originally by: Omarvelous
You have to be important enough to get a ransom from us in the first place however.
Corp: Earned In Blood Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
Like many others have said, we'll honour any ransom we offer. We're willing to listen to proposed ransom payments as well, and we're not too bloodthirsty to turn down payment for safe passage in the first place.
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RedSplat |
Posted - 2009.02.15 13:51:00 - [ 2]
Edited by: RedSplat on 31/05/2009 12:53:29The further, following Corps aim to offer or accept and honor Ransoms, providing the situation makes this possible, under the terms they may or may not dictate. They may not always offer you a Ransom, if so this will be detailed below, it is however always worth asking.Corp: Guiding Hand Social Club Alliance: N/A Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Anyone in GH-SC will honor ransoms or get booted (or pay damages)
Corp: Integrated Takeovers Alliance: (?) Originally by: Chomin H'ak
Our corp honours ransoms (when we offer them  )
Corp: Interimo. Alliance: End of The Line. Originally by: Suitonia
End of the Line Honours ransoms/1vs1's/agreements. Although we usually won't ransom. If Anyone has any of these agreements dishonoured should contact me with proof and they will be reimbursed.
Corp: Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It Originally by: Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong, So Deal With It will always honour ransoms, though not necessarily always offer them ^^
Corp:Knockaround Guys Inc. Alliance: N/A Originally by: Xtreem
if i offer a ransom, i always honour it if they pay, but i have quite alot of isk so i dont ransom often
Corp: Mean Corp Alliance: Mean Coalition Originally by: Grunanca
mean coalition hasn't dishonoured a ransom ever... That counts for all the corps in the alliance, if anyone dishonours, they will be kicked. We both ask for ransom and consider them if people ask for it.
Corp: Neo Spartans Alliance: None as current. Originally by: Larkonis Trassler
Neo Spartans will honour ransoms. Ransoms will be offered to T2 Cruisers/T1 BCs in most circumstances and usually pods older than 6 months. We may be open to ransoms from smaller vessels. If your vessel is of a small size or your pod is young you may be asked to tell us a joke or witty anecdote in exchange for your freedom. For larger vessels a song on our ventrillo server may be asked for in lieu of ISK.
Corp: Noir. Alliance: None as current; may vary as to stipulations of a contract. Originally by: Mickey Simon
Noir. will honour any ransom that the Noir. pilot offers.
However: we will not always ransom pilots, and do reserve the right to turn down any ransom a pilot offers.
Corp: Onorata Societa Alliance: Originally by: Ruri Dant
Always, as a corp we have direct orders to honour ransoms based on PVP activities, if your ship/pod was killed by one of us after you paid a ransom you will have full reimbursement
Corp: RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Alliance: Originally by: Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE honour ransoms, however - in 99% of the case we will decline ransom offers for ships, but same time, in most cases we will accept ransoms for pods. 
Corp: Sexy Pirate Club Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Sexy Pirate Club honors ransoms.
We only offer ransoms if it's a ship type that won't display on our outdated kill board.
Corp: The Bastards Alliance: (?) Originally by: General Coochie
The Bastards honor ransoms. However ransoms are on our terms and when we offer it, while we try and offer ransoms often there are a lot of times when a ransom isn't practical for obvious reasons.
Corp: The Tuskers Alliance: (?) Originally by: Burn Mac
Add The Tuskers we honor ransoms but we reserve the right to pop and pod without ransom offer due to local spiking or other suspicious activities we however always aim to ransom.
Corp: The United Alliance: Negative Ten Originally by: Katie Door
Most T2 cruiser hulls, most tier 1 battlecruiser hulls, tier 2 battlecruiser, all tier 1,2&3 battleship hulls we will try to ransom, dependent on the circumstances. freighters and other capital ships will also be ransomed. notable exceptions are scorpions. |
RedSplat |
Posted - 2009.02.15 13:52:00 - [ 3]
Edited by: RedSplat on 26/02/2009 12:20:59The following Corps have either been claimed to have dishonoured agreed ransoms, or don't accept such at all as appended below; or they are just trolling.Corp: SRIUS BISNIS Alliance: (?) Originally by: Sol'Kanar
We don't honour ****. We will offer a ransom and blow you up anyhow. We could become the most notorious dishonourable corp in all of Eve, and yet we still would collect ransoms we have no intention of honouring.
Corp: The Oblivion Guard. Alliance: (?) Originally by: Leiara Knight
The Oblivion Guard will not honour ransoms, I'm sorry to say. Some of the clowns I've recruited can't even spell their own names properly.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE |
Posted - 2009.02.15 13:52:00 - [ 4]
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE honour ransoms, however - in 99% of the case we will decline ransom offers for ships, but same time, in most cases we will accept ransoms for pods. |
Demitria Fernir
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute |
Posted - 2009.02.15 14:05:00 - [ 5]
I think you forgot a T in the title |
Larkonis Trassler
Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.02.15 14:05:00 - [ 6]
Neo Spartans will honour ransoms. Ransoms will be offered to T2 Cruiers/T1 BCs in most circumstances and usually pods older than 6 months. We may be open to ransoms from smaller vessels. If your vessel is of a small size or your pod is young you may be asked to tell us a joke or witty anecdote in exchange for your freedom. For larger vessels a song on our ventrillo server may be asked for in lieu of ISK. |
Larkonis Trassler
Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.02.15 14:05:00 - [ 7]
Originally by: Demitria Fernir
I think you forgot a T in the title
Thonour is a word now? |
Kirra Liu
Serenity Rising.
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Posted - 2009.02.15 14:09:00 - [ 8]
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE |
Posted - 2009.02.15 14:29:00 - [ 9]
Originally by: Demitria Fernir
I think you forgot a T in the title
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Mickey Simon
Genos Occidere |
Posted - 2009.02.15 14:54:00 - [ 10]
Noir. will honour any ransom that the Noir. pilot offers.
However: we will not always ransom pilots, and do reserve the right to turn down any ransom a pilot offers. |
Leiara Knight
Gallente
The Oblivion Guard |
Posted - 2009.02.15 15:41:00 - [ 11]
The Oblivion Guard will not honour ransoms, I'm sorry to say. Some of the clowns I've recruited can't even spell their own names properly.
Personally, I'll probably honour a ransom depending on the level of intoxication. |
Grunanca
Final Agony
B A N E |
Posted - 2009.02.15 16:49:00 - [ 12]
Add mean coalition  Hasnt dishonoured a ransom ever... That counts for all the corps in the alliancem, if anyone dishonours, they will be kicked. We both ask for ransom and consider them if people ask for it. |
Chomin H'ak
Integrated Takeovers |
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:00:00 - [ 13]
Our corp honors ransoms (when we offer them ) |
Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:55:00 - [ 14]
Wait, content from someone who actually posts in C&P often?
Woah. |
Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2009.02.15 20:12:00 - [ 15]
End of the Line. Honours ransoms/1vs1's/agreements. Although we usually won't ransom. If Anyone has any of these agreements dishonoured should contact me with proof and they will be reimbursed.
The Lorenz Alliance <STORM> Butterfly Effect Corp, Hive Bound Technologies and Einherjar Alliance [-THOR] do not honour 1vs1's. Can provide fraps/screenshots/chatlogs on request. |
RedSplat |
Posted - 2009.02.15 20:29:00 - [ 16]
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RedSplat |
Posted - 2009.02.15 20:29:00 - [ 17]
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RedSplat |
Posted - 2009.02.15 20:48:00 - [ 18]
Edited by: RedSplat on 15/02/2009 20:59:00 Originally by: Suitonia
The Lorenz Alliance <STORM> Butterfly Effect Corp, Hive Bound Technologies and Einherjar Alliance [-THOR] do not honour 1vs1's. Can provide fraps/screenshots/chatlogs on request.
I have setup an external (spamproof!) mailbox for evidence/proof, the address detailed in the bio of this character. Alternatively, just EVE mail such to this character; although long chatlogs and Screenshots etc.. are a ***** to deal with like that. All such correspondence is confidential. Just to add emphasis- i will not make public the addresses of those that contact me through that email adressLikewise, if anyone wishes to remain an anonymous tipster in-game that's fine- although why you wouldnt just use an alt... EDIT: and yes i dont want to add any Corp as not honouring ransoms without proof |
General Coochie
The Bastards
The Bastards. |
Posted - 2009.02.15 23:27:00 - [ 19]
Edited by: General Coochie on 15/02/2009 23:28:10
You can add The Bastards to the list of corps that honor ransoms. If a member dishonors a ransom they will get kicked form corp. However ransoms are on our terms and when we offer it, while we try and offer ransoms often there are a lot of times when a ransom isn't practical for obvious reasons.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It |
Posted - 2009.02.15 23:42:00 - [ 20]
Is Right Even When He's Wrong, So Deal With It will always honour ransoms, though not necessarily always offer them ^^ |
Sang Jin
Gallente
Heretic Army
B A N E |
Posted - 2009.02.15 23:45:00 - [ 21]
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General Coochie
The Bastards
The Bastards. |
Posted - 2009.02.16 01:11:00 - [ 22]
BTW There isnt a single pirate that will accept a ransom on someone elses terms and let them dictate the ransom. Anshar pilot "ransom for 5mill" - eeer no..
Your categories should be remade.
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Sang Jin
Gallente
Heretic Army
B A N E |
Posted - 2009.02.16 01:17:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: General Coochie
BTW There isnt a single pirate that will accept a ransom on someone elses terms and let them dictate the ransom. Anshar pilot "ransom for 5mill" - eeer no..
Your categories should be remade.
I dont know.. If I had an Anshar pilot offer me 5B (not 5M I'll give you that) to not kill him I'd think about it. I mean its obvious he has WAY more than that in cargo, but there's a chance none of it will drop, and that which does drop will be to big for me to hall away.. I'd have to ask the gang though.. And he'd have to have offered it with enough time for us to discuss the pros and cons while were shooting him, cos im not stopping for an Anshar to just jump out.. |
General Coochie
The Bastards
The Bastards. |
Posted - 2009.02.16 01:30:00 - [ 24]
Originally by: Sang Jin
Originally by: General Coochie
BTW There isnt a single pirate that will accept a ransom on someone elses terms and let them dictate the ransom. Anshar pilot "ransom for 5mill" - eeer no..
Your categories should be remade.
I dont know.. If I had an Anshar pilot offer me 5B (not 5M I'll give you that) to not kill him I'd think about it. I mean its obvious he has WAY more than that in cargo, but there's a chance none of it will drop, and that which does drop will be to big for me to hall away.. I'd have to ask the gang though.. And he'd have to have offered it with enough time for us to discuss the pros and cons while were shooting him, cos im not stopping for an Anshar to just jump out..
We would most definitely take that ransom. The categories are stupid. Either you honor ransoms or you do not. The victim has no say really, either he accepts the terms or he does not. There can still be a dialog but the victim never should get the last word. To be fair I don't think a single pirate corp operates as the blue category. |
RedSplat |
Posted - 2009.02.16 01:36:00 - [ 25]
Edited by: RedSplat on 16/02/2009 01:37:58 Originally by: General Coochie
BTW There isnt a single pirate that will accept a ransom on someone elses terms and let them dictate the ransom. Anshar pilot "ransom for 5mill" - eeer no..
Correct, as far as hypotheticals go; for who is to say the ransomee will always put a figure out there that is less than a swashbuckling scallywag was going to ask. You have never pointed someone and had a terse '40 million' (or whatever figure) dropped into local or a convo without prompting? Ransoms are negotiations, not directives someone MUST comply with- even if the other recourse is being popped, or self destructing or ctrl-Q, there are always other options as oposed to paying a ransom. Quote:
The following Corps aim to accept and honour Ransoms, under the terms they may or may not dictate:
tl;dr corps in this category offer ransoms, may accept ransom offers initiated by the victim either at face value or as a prelude to the negotiation of a ransom. Such actions are commonplace, or perhaps a matter of corp policy. Quote:
may or may not dictate
is the contentious part? Not all Pirates are a well run outfit with guidelines laid down for the terms of a ransom and the conduct of the aggressors following one; i.e. exactly how long the victim remains 'safe', if the ransom is void the moment they leave system etc... Quote:
The following Corps MAY accept a ransom and honour it (they may not ask for one) within the terms of whatever agreement you make with them.
tl;dr Corps that don't habitually ask for a ransom, but might be willing to take one if the victim makes known that he is willing to pay to excape unharmed. I'll amend it as: Quote:
The following Corps MAY offer you a ransom, or MAY accept a ransom once informed you are willing to pay one and honour it within the agreed terms.
------------------------- Edit: Better? I don't want to define categorys of Pirates/Mercs/whatever in any more complexity- this isnt a legal document. What would you suggest? |
Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.16 01:37:00 - [ 26]
Originally by: General Coochie
Originally by: Sang Jin
Originally by: General Coochie
BTW There isnt a single pirate that will accept a ransom on someone elses terms and let them dictate the ransom. Anshar pilot "ransom for 5mill" - eeer no..
Your categories should be remade.
I dont know.. If I had an Anshar pilot offer me 5B (not 5M I'll give you that) to not kill him I'd think about it. I mean its obvious he has WAY more than that in cargo, but there's a chance none of it will drop, and that which does drop will be to big for me to hall away.. I'd have to ask the gang though.. And he'd have to have offered it with enough time for us to discuss the pros and cons while were shooting him, cos im not stopping for an Anshar to just jump out..
We would most definitely take that ransom. The categories are stupid. Either you honor ransoms or you do not. The victim has no say really, either he accepts the terms or he does not. There can still be a dialog but the victim never should get the last word. To be fair I don't think a single pirate corp operates as the blue category.
NO U! Oh wait, that wasnt directed at me... Carry on. |
RedSplat |
Posted - 2009.02.16 01:47:00 - [ 27]
Originally by: General Coochie
We would most definitely take that ransom. The categories are stupid. Either you honor ransoms or you do not. The victim has no say really, either he accepts the terms or he does not. There can still be a dialog but the victim never should get the last word. To be fair I don't think a single pirate corp operates as the blue category.
I get what you mean. The difference between blue and yellow is that corps in the former usually ask for a ransom as a matter of course, the latter dont always bother and may need prompting by the victim. I can easily merge the two, but the distinction is rather important for the Victim- and this thread is as much for those who find themselves at the mercy of pirates as it is something to stimulate the flow of ransomed filthy lucre into pirate coffers. This the general view? I would rather not get bogged down in such things. |
General Coochie
The Bastards
The Bastards. |
Posted - 2009.02.16 02:05:00 - [ 28]
Edited by: General Coochie on 16/02/2009 02:05:24
Ok I see what you mean.
As I said we will ask for ransoms most of the times, when circumstances allow it. Naturally you cant ask for a ransom when gate guns fire you and you cant perma tank it, or you have a hostile gang warping in, or if the fight isn't a given win and we are loosing ships etc.
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Hallan Turrek
Caldari
The Outlaws.
Split Infinity. |
Posted - 2009.02.16 03:19:00 - [ 29]
Quote:
The following Corps aim to accept and honour Ransoms, under the terms they may or may not dictate:
Are you just expecting someone to lie and say "I'll always offer a ransom," instead of saying "I'll offer a ransom when it's reasonable to offer a ransom," which is actually truthful? Our primary goal in piracy is to get a ransom. Period. We fit the blue category. We aim to accept and honor ransoms. Sometimes our aims don't fully click with the reality of the situation we're in. There's no maybe about it, if we're in a reasonable situation to accept, and the ransom isn't 20 million for a Caldari Navy Raven(which if we got, we'd return) we'll be accepting the ransom. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE |
Posted - 2009.02.16 04:02:00 - [ 30]
Idle empire honors ransoms. although just because we honor ransoms doesn't mean we will always give you one. |
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