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TSX01
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.22 09:16:00 - [91]
 

Oh my god, this trend ROCKS!!! best reading in weeks, why didn't I join Univ when I was was a noobie

TSX01
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.22 09:21:00 - [92]
 

Actually I'll create a alt right now to join Eve Uni

ScaR97731
Posted - 2009.02.22 14:58:00 - [93]
 

You will never touch EVE University. Just keep Dreaming mama's boyz

Lord Acuma
Posted - 2009.02.23 06:34:00 - [94]
 

All i can say ; Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by fighting back.

Boomershoot
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Posted - 2009.02.23 07:45:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Lord Acuma
All i can say ; Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by fighting back.


Oh, I see what you did there LaughingLaughing

Vampasha
The Scope
Posted - 2009.02.23 12:47:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Dirk Magnum
They also crank up the tax rate to 100% during wartime as part of the lock-down procedure.


So a one person corp could cripple them?

I see money here, 1 billion to remove war dec and business as usual.

Kanikara
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2009.02.23 12:50:00 - [97]
 

The fact the mercs set the KB of theirs to show 10mil per pod is a bit odd..

They seem to be getting the unaware targets, you killed a battleship. Which really increases the efficiency uni, but they can easily make it up with a couple kills of people not paying attention and doing boneheaded things. One reason many wardec the uni... they know there will be people with less experience and knowledge. Course it only gets worse when the experienced ones talk about past wars where targets station spin...people get careless when they think the targets don't undock or are not to be worried about.

Which seems to be what happens a lot... newer players get careless because of the cheerleading on forums or in corp/alliance (happens to a good number of corps not just the uni)


Kanikara
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2009.02.23 12:51:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Vampasha
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
They also crank up the tax rate to 100% during wartime as part of the lock-down procedure.


So a one person corp could cripple them?

I see money here, 1 billion to remove war dec and business as usual.


Not really, only affects missions

Gives a firm reason not to try and run missions during war time.

Doesn't affect trading at all. So many can still sit in station and make isk with their trading/manufacturing (and knowing the uni, there are likely a list of ex-members ready to do hauling for them)

Zeimanov Kalzumaan
Haruspex Industries
Posted - 2009.02.23 13:46:00 - [99]
 

As was already posted, it's unlikely you'll be able to shut down the uni like that. Worst case scenario is they will conduct classes with a big escort fleet or run missions in groups for mutual protection.

At the beginning of the war there are normally a couple of people who don't follow the rules and mission/mine/haul - it only takes a few being popped by directors to drive the message home. If you've not padded your efficiency with ganks by now you're probably not going to get any more.

How's the war going - uni are at 80% ish efficiency? Same story, different people.

sir gankalot
Posted - 2009.02.23 14:43:00 - [100]
 

If I remember correctly the Uni had some problems with privatears a while back. I was living in Korsiki at that time and they didn't seem to be doing all that well. The Uni is not untouchable.

Jimer Lins
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2009.02.23 15:45:00 - [101]
 

Was wandering around yesterday and ran into a massive Uni blob of mostly T1 frigs. At first I thought someone had gotten suicide ganked, there were so many little white things on my overview. Must have been at least 50 of them, probably more.

I don't imagine it went well for any wts they found. Laughing

Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Posted - 2009.02.24 14:29:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Sao DaSilva
Originally by: Sabre A



*LAUGHS EVEN HARDER*

now where did I put that BC corpes? Dee you got it?


I think we gave them all to Uber.


I know I had it at some point after podding BC. Got rid of it ASAP so I didn't have to clean out the cargo hold tho. The soiled pants really smelled too badly...Rolling Eyes


Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2009.02.24 14:54:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Kanikara
The fact the mercs set the KB of theirs to show 10mil per pod is a bit odd..


Imho the kb's should read more than 10mil per pod, and be considered 'real kills'.

We got quite a bit of players that are a few years old, at which point a regular clone cost ~10mil. That isn't even factoring in implants. I go between having 3-9 characters active, atm five, and all of them fly with implants. Always.

In risky situations where I know it's a good chance I'll lose my ship, like fleets, I fly with 2x +2's just to up the training speed of my main attributes at that point.

I.e., long story short, most pods should average at least 10mil, as far as I'm concerned. Might be different for frigswarm alliances that live in 0.0, but for high-/lowsec I reccon the average pod is way past 10. Oh, and a pod is near impossible to kill without bubbles as well, another reason to really crank up their value. It's definately way past t1 frigate/cruisers, and might be matching battlecruisers (on average).

TSX01
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.24 20:43:00 - [104]
 

appearantly E-U is not recruiting right now due to war dec, I tried and they called me a spy.

Mickey Simon
Genos Occidere
Posted - 2009.02.24 20:56:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: TSX01
appearantly E-U is not recruiting right now due to war dec, I tried and they called me a spy.

Not surprising, I don't know any corporation that would actively recruit during a war.

Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
Posted - 2009.02.25 05:54:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Dee Carson
Dec'ing the Uni is like waiving 2lbs of fresh meat over a pen full of Doberman puppies.

They aren't _exactly_ sure what to do, but they are eager as hell, have lots of really sharp little teeth and their big brothers & sisters take it personally when you mess with the kiddies.



~and~

Quote:
Wardeccing IVY is like taking a M4 to a elementary school just to find that every kid has a MP5 under their desk, and the teacher drives a M1




/thread

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Got some great laughs. Thanks all.

sir gankalot
Posted - 2009.02.26 12:07:00 - [107]
 

From the looks of the Killboards, it doesn't really look like "Exotic dancers club" stepped up to the plate Laughing

Guess they bit off more than they could chew.

Goey Goober
Posted - 2009.02.26 13:51:00 - [108]
 

2009.02.26 09:24
The war between Exotic Dancers Club and Ivy League is coming to an end. Exotic Dancers Club has retracted the war against Ivy League. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.


Sigh, they went to all that trouble to host a war and then didn't show up...

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2009.02.26 13:53:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: ScaR97731
You will never touch EVE University. Just keep Dreaming mama's boyz




You are almost as amusing in your persistence as hepatitis

Boomershoot
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Posted - 2009.02.26 14:08:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Goey Goober
2009.02.26 09:24
The war between Exotic Dancers Club and Ivy League is coming to an end. Exotic Dancers Club has retracted the war against Ivy League. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.


Sigh, they went to all that trouble to host a war and then didn't show up...


awh, now what am i supposed to do with all these flash games? Sad

sir gankalot
Posted - 2009.02.26 14:27:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Goey Goober
2009.02.26 09:24
The war between Exotic Dancers Club and Ivy League is coming to an end. Exotic Dancers Club has retracted the war against Ivy League. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.


Sigh, they went to all that trouble to host a war and then didn't show up...

Rofl, what a surprise. Well, hope they enjoyed it....

State Security
Caldari
Posted - 2009.02.26 15:53:00 - [112]
 

I'd also like to say that having the EUNI as a Corp you have been a member of (for a month or more) looks VERY good to many other player Corps you may apply too. Think of it as having passed Basic Training or gotten a Degree to put on your resume :P

Tristen Orde
Racketeers
Posted - 2009.02.26 16:25:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: State Security
I'd also like to say that having the EUNI as a Corp you have been a member of (for a month or more) looks VERY good to many other player Corps you may apply too. Think of it as having passed Basic Training or gotten a Degree to put on your resume :P


Ahahahaha.... unless they're applying for a PVP corp. Eve Uni forces all of their members, when confronted with nonconcentual pvp, to either hide in a station or hide in a 50 man blob. No thanks, I don't want that kind of training flying with me.

Ashen Angel
Minmatar
Scarey Contractors
Posted - 2009.02.26 17:34:00 - [114]
 

Edited by: Ashen Angel on 26/02/2009 17:36:41
Originally by: Tristen Orde
Originally by: State Security
I'd also like to say that having the EUNI as a Corp you have been a member of (for a month or more) looks VERY good to many other player Corps you may apply too. Think of it as having passed Basic Training or gotten a Degree to put on your resume :P


Ahahahaha.... unless they're applying for a PVP corp. Eve Uni forces all of their members, when confronted with nonconcentual pvp, to either hide in a station or hide in a 50 man blob. No thanks, I don't want that kind of training flying with me.


Actually there is no minimum size for a uni PvP op. Except a minimum of 2 during war, with a recommendation of at least 1 squad if possible.

It's just there are a lot of bored members who want to shoot flashies

There are solo and small gangs going into low sec or hunting war targets, but usually when you say forming a fleet... You wind up with half the uni X'ing up for it


Irdalth Delrar
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2009.02.26 18:22:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Tristen Orde
Ahahahaha.... unless they're applying for a PVP corp. Eve Uni forces all of their members, when confronted with nonconcentual pvp, to either hide in a station or hide in a 50 man blob. No thanks, I don't want that kind of training flying with me.

I find this to be among the most amusing misnomers about the Uni. The last thing we do is teach blobbing... In fact, we know that people don't fight fleets of 50... But you call for a fleet, and all the newbies want in. In fact, the Uni produces some top notch FCs, as we allow anyone to give it a shot. And it becomes very easy to ignore what the Uni does, when you only focus on our war tactics. We don't fight wars for honor, for pride, any of that junk. We fight to win. Our goal is to teach students, and time spend in most wars is a waste, when our targets undock once a day in a cloaking ship then hide for hours (the typical war against the uni after 3 days). So we fight with overwhelming force to overcome an enemy and get rid of a dec. Of course, with that you ignore the fact that most 50 man fleets are actually 5 10man squads of mostly frigates hunting in intricate patterns. You also ignore that outside of war, we teach plenty in the way of small group warfare, hit and run, among other things. If this isn't the kind of training you want, I'm not sure you want PvP pilots at all.

Kavu
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.02.26 18:27:00 - [116]
 

lawl ur sigs gonna get nerfed

Luigi Vercotti
Posted - 2009.02.26 18:34:00 - [117]
 

Originally by: Tristen Orde

Ahahahaha.... unless they're applying for a PVP corp. Eve Uni forces all of their members, when confronted with nonconcentual pvp, to either hide in a station or hide in a 50 man blob. No thanks, I don't want that kind of training flying with me.


I would suggest that some of what you say does have merit, but needs to be qualified. The UNI OPERATES in blob fashion, but does not TEACH blob warfare. The simple fact is that the UNI has so many members, and when fleets are called, so many people answer the call, that it is impossible NOT to have blobs.

I have a friend in the UNI. He told me that on the first day of the war, the UNI had 3 fleets out at any given time, each with 30 plus people. 100 plus people hunting targets at any given time. Not many corps can field that kind of manpower to take on those kinds of numbers.

The 2nd point that should be clarified is that the UNI takes pretty much everybody in. That means they get a ton of players with less than 2 weeks Eve experience and zero days of PvP time. Of course this kind of rookie is incapable of flying in a small gang, either skill-wise or experience-wise.
So at the beginning, there is no way they are going to be flying in a small gang against 2 or 3 year old pilots in T2 ships. That is just plain stupid.

But you know what? These new pilots want to learn, and they learn fast, because there is always experienced pilots around willing teach them. Most pilots when they leave the UNI have learned the basics about electronic warfare, tackling, ship fitting, fleet movement, some intelligence gathering, how to handle WT's playing docking/undocking games, and many have FC'ed fleets.

And most of all, they know how to follow orders and work as a team.

Sounds to me that the UNI pilot would look damn good in any corp's PVP squads. A corp's specific PvP tactics can be taught easily enough. Giving someone the grounding and and mindset to work well with others is not as easily taught.

Demitria Fernir
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2009.02.26 19:10:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Tristen Orde
Originally by: State Security
I'd also like to say that having the EUNI as a Corp you have been a member of (for a month or more) looks VERY good to many other player Corps you may apply too. Think of it as having passed Basic Training or gotten a Degree to put on your resume :P


Ahahahaha.... unless they're applying for a PVP corp. Eve Uni forces all of their members, when confronted with nonconcentual pvp, to either hide in a station or hide in a 50 man blob. No thanks, I don't want that kind of training flying with me.


The fact that you don't want that kind of training flying with you doesn't automatically makes your corp a PVP corp.

But yes, uni preparations are good for empire operations, but after PVP basic are taught it all falls on the eldest member's experience to get the blob moving smoothly.

Vall Kor
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.02.26 19:29:00 - [119]
 

Edited by: Vall Kor on 26/02/2009 19:29:55
Edited by: Vall Kor on 26/02/2009 19:29:29
They seem to have fun and why not bring the fight. Seems more fun then lolgatecamp "pvp". Only thing I would change is train your members to warp when the FC says to (or not it was fun killing those too slow to warp).

Last run in with Eve Uni we (3 interceptors) killed 9, would have been 10 but I over shot the thorax (grr). Granted we didn't go head on with them, we were out numbered 30+ to 3 but it was fun and some of those guy probably had a blast trying to catch us.

Great service!
A++++
Will kill again Twisted EvilEvil or Very Mad

Ulric Zorn
Posted - 2009.02.26 23:38:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Digger Hater
Congrats douche, you have infiltrated a charity org that will let practically anyone in for free training.

That is like spying on the Red Cross then trying to sell out the location of their top secret blood drives.

What is your next epic move? A daring robbery at the local homeless shelter?




Did these quips come easily to you, Dennis Miller?


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