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Ulic Trask
Cascading Failure
Unity Thru Aggression.
Posted - 2009.02.13 03:35:00 - [1]
 

I took a break from eve before the last expansion, just came back recently. I seem to remember something about a medium drone nerf. Whats generally better these days medium II or light II?

therealdhs
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.13 03:46:00 - [2]
 

I'll take 5 of each for my L4 missions, fit nicely for taking out the targets they're intended to. Just make sure you're using lights on frigs, and mediums on cruisers, and save the weapons on your ship for the big stuff.

Ulic Trask
Cascading Failure
Unity Thru Aggression.
Posted - 2009.02.13 03:54:00 - [3]
 

So.......... Mediums don't rock out frigates anymore?

Dors Venabily
Posted - 2009.02.13 05:34:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Ulic Trask
So.......... Mediums don't rock out frigates anymore?


Even on ship with no drone bonuses with good drone skills the medium t2s are ok for 90 % of frigs

Only exception are the named variants and spider drones those need lights if you want to kill them in reasonable time.

King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2009.02.13 05:41:00 - [5]
 

Ideally you would have 5 mediums and 5 lights. If this is not possible then a choice of either is actually fine. Lights are now better at killing all frigates than mediums are. That said I haven't found an npc frigate that mediums couldn't kill, it just takes a little longer. I have under 1M SP in drones so not exactly my strength but t2 lights get the job done on frigates plenty fast.

Ydyp Ieva
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2009.02.13 07:09:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Dors Venabily
Originally by: Ulic Trask
So.......... Mediums don't rock out frigates anymore?


Even on ship with no drone bonuses with good drone skills the medium t2s are ok for 90 % of frigs

Only exception are the named variants and spider drones those need lights if you want to kill them in reasonable time.

Agree totaly, but mostly those frigs don't get closer then 50km as they are instapopped by my sentries at that range. BC only take 4 extra salvo's of them. And well they track well enough to pop BS pretty fast to.

But if it happens that those faster gets under the gunrange of the sentries I drop out med/light depending if the named ones are interceptors or the slower variant with more tank.

Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.02.13 09:39:00 - [7]
 

Any tech II medium drones with good skills will eat all frigates without even a burp at the end of it.
With drone bonuses on your ship there should be even less of an issue (never tried, need to learn how to fly drone boats one of these days)

Yalezorn
Gallente
Posted - 2009.02.13 14:45:00 - [8]
 

I use mediums on everything but interceptors and battleships, they work fine for nearly all frigates.

I don't even see them do damage, they get in range and the ship disappears as a target.

Ghengis Tia
Posted - 2009.02.13 15:40:00 - [9]
 

In my experience the lights take out frigs faster, and the mediums do OK on cruisers, but you're still going to have to take out the majority of cruisers with your ship missiles/guns.

One needs to keep light drones on passive, and direct them to correct targets (frigs). They tend to get stuck on cruisers and BC's, which go down faster with mediums.

Of course there's the caveat in Eve-Kill Mission survival guides about drone aggro, don't deploy drones until such and such, and other restrictions depending on the mission.

Patrice Macmahon
The Lost Minmatar Legion
Posted - 2009.02.14 17:02:00 - [10]
 

Load a target Painter II, and your mediums will handle just fine against the smaller frigs, It will save you time on the swaps and allow you to load alternate damage drones as opposed to focusing on med/small combo.

ZeusOnRoids
Amarr
The German Star-Fighters
United European Star-Force
Posted - 2009.02.15 00:38:00 - [11]
 

interesting that so many of you use the mediums. i dont use them at all anymore. i read that the mediums are ok on frigates? well, the same applies to the small drones on cruisers. and you have to take the drone speed for dps into account. the smaller ones are much faster. i also never switch to other drone races as the damage mod of the hobgoblins beats the others in almost all missions. i´d say the difference in killing speed in some missions (e.g. vs. angels) is so low that you can safe the time for switching drone types when you fit for your mission. my hobs kill even angels pretty fast.

and stop complaining about the missile nerf. my cruises go through cruisers with 1-1,5 volleys and no, i dont even have cruise missiles at 5 or any of the missile support skills. i dont even use TP or any other damage mod except 3 faction BCUs

Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
Posted - 2009.02.15 03:21:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Dors Venabily
Originally by: Ulic Trask
So.......... Mediums don't rock out frigates anymore?


Even on ship with no drone bonuses with good drone skills the medium t2s are ok for 90 % of frigs

Only exception are the named variants and spider drones those need lights if you want to kill them in reasonable time.


Confused
Almost the only time you should ever be launching drones in a L4 mission is to kill those named variants and spider drones. At least, that's the time when killing them with drones is most critical. How can you dismiss those as an exception?

Lord WarATron
Amarr
Shadow Warri0rs
Posted - 2009.02.15 10:57:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Lord WarATron on 15/02/2009 10:57:19
Basically, just expect your Medium II's to take a few seconds longer to kill frigs, assuming you have decent drone skills. No big deal, given that it may take you longer to recall and switch drones.

However, Spider drones and Named intercepter style npc's will take probebly twice as long to kill. Its worth carrying a spare 5 lights II just in case you need to bail and get scrambled by one of those.


 

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