Posted - 2008.12.11 09:25:00 - [392]

 

Edited by: Kwint Sommer on 11/12/2008 09:25:18

Originally by: LaVista Vista

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Well. First of all, I kicked off this process. Please understand that CCP does not want to discuss exploits under any circumstances, not even with the CSM.

However, I have pushed for CCP to work with us on resolving any issues the community might have, together with us. It's beneficial to everybody, so it's worth doing.

I will however have to ask everybody to manage their expectations. Please don't expect anything. CCP's stance is clear at this point. We might be able to work something out with them so we can make more people happy.

Any direct information, names, numbers of titan and what not people have requested, I will personally be VERY MUCH against that CCP discloses. It's unreasonable to expect and it will *NOT* help anything to the situation. It will only serve the people who wants to create drama in the forum.

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I appreciate the fact that CCP is reluctant to give details about specific characters/accounts and in reality cannot say which Titans and Outposts were built with ISK from the exploit. However, there needs to be a thorough investigation of the scope and range of the exploits abuse.

We need to know if this was a multi-year, multi-trillion ISK disaster and if so we need to know what level of involvement each alliance had and what actions are being taken against them. Without that being a completely transparent process we will never see the end of favoritism accusations and rightfully so. To this day alliances and CCP are demonized over what may have been the comparatively trivial T20 incident. Unless CCP wants to see that x20 they need to make the investigation of this exploit and its consequences transparent to at least the CSM and to a lesser extent, the public.

I hope this exploit was never widely used and has had a trivial impact but if it is anything near what the accusations claim it is then we need a full and transparent investigation. I know that is not CCP's policy to do such things publicly but this situation is utterly without precedent and should be treated accordingly. This exploit may well have reshaped 0.0 and something of that magnitude cannot be dealt with quietly behind closed doors.

Posted - 2008.12.11 09:32:00 - [394]

 

Signed ... I wanna know who has been doing this

Posted - 2008.12.11 09:40:00 - [396]

 

Signed.

Posted - 2008.12.11 09:45:00 - [398]

 

Signed.

Posted - 2008.12.11 09:46:00 - [400]

 

Originally by: LaVista Vista

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Well. First of all, I kicked off this process. Please understand that CCP does not want to discuss exploits under any circumstances, not even with the CSM.

However, I have pushed for CCP to work with us on resolving any issues the community might have, together with us. It's beneficial to everybody, so it's worth doing.

I will however have to ask everybody to manage their expectations. Please don't expect anything. CCP's stance is clear at this point. We might be able to work something out with them so we can make more people happy.

Any direct information, names, numbers of titan and what not people have requested, I will personally be VERY MUCH against that CCP discloses. It's unreasonable to expect and it will *NOT* help anything to the situation. It will only serve the people who wants to create drama in the forum.

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While I do agree with you LaVista, I really do, This ****up of deathstar size has effected everyone (if i'm reading the issue right) ingame thats ever paid for a T2 mod or ship? and yes CCP's stance is we don't talk about hacksploits but after the T20 deal CCP made the IA dept.. 4 years (they even petitioned it which was just closed IIRC)of the same bug, its just too hard to even think this was not noticed//covered up by Devs. TBH even with CCPs rules, I think the playerbase as a whole deserves a full rundown of events.

Posted - 2008.12.11 09:48:00 - [402]

 

Posted - 2008.12.11 09:50:00 - [404]

 

Signed!

Posted - 2008.12.11 09:52:00 - [406]

 

Signed!

Posted - 2008.12.11 09:56:00 - [408]

 

signed!

Posted - 2008.12.11 09:57:00 - [410]

 

Posted - 2008.12.11 09:59:00 - [412]

 

signed

Posted - 2008.12.11 10:00:00 - [414]

 

Posted - 2008.12.11 10:00:00 - [416]

 

Edited by: Darth Felin on 11/12/2008 10:01:26
signed

Posted - 2008.12.11 10:01:00 - [418]

 

Posted - 2008.12.11 10:03:00 - [420]