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CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2008.12.10 21:23:00 - [1]
 

We have discovered an exploit involving starbases that made it possible for some players to gain an unfair advantage over others. We have taken measures to address this by removing the starbases used in the exploit. Additionally, assets gained from its use have been seized and bans levied against the players involved. We will continue to monitor the game for issues such as this one. We encourage players to create a petition if become aware of any activities which may permit others to gain an unfair advantage in the game.

Update by Customer Support:

On December 7th 2008, a date which will live in infamy, a petition from a concerned player alerted us to a serious problem with Starbase reactors. The petition had been filed five days earlier, a far longer waiting time than we can accept with our current queue status and we have now taken measures to fix that. We immediately started investigating the issue and found that there was indeed a problem and that it was being exploited to gain unfair advantages.

We discovered seven corporations with multiple Starbases set up for the express purpose of exploiting the issue. Three of those corporations were members of two alliances. We took immediate action against the offenders and banned over 70 accounts and destroyed all the Starbases run by the corporations in question. All the offending corporations are now effectively inactive as a result of our actions.

The corporations were producing high end materials for T2 production. Working with the Research & Statistics team we have established that the effects on the markets have been considerable and far reaching. The effects of our actions against the exploiters will also be felt on the market as the production of the materials has been cut substantially. However, supply should increase again once players have mastered the alchemy process.

We are still conducting operations to deal with this matter and we will keep you posted on the progress and results as things develop.

Update: This matter will be brought up at a CSM and CCP meeting this upcoming weekend.

MyOwnSling
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:31:00 - [2]
 

Any word as to the economic impact?

Peter VonThal
Raygun Technologies
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:32:00 - [3]
 

Interesting, I hope we get some insight from the Dr. at some point in the future.

Gnomes Rock
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:32:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Gnomes Rock on 10/12/2008 21:38:08
Can you say how widespread the issue was before "fixing" the problem?

Edit; And how long until this thread goes invisible?

Phoenus
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:32:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Phoenus on 10/12/2008 21:33:01
It'd be interesting to know the extent to which this was being used.

Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:33:00 - [6]
 

4 years aye. Time for a rapid response unit maybe?

How come this wasn't spotted earlier, for example by your much-vaunted economist? Surely gigantic piles of T2 reactions without corresponding amounts mined (or even mineable given the lack of Dyspro moons) should have given some sort of an indication something was wrong?

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:34:00 - [7]
 

Will this projected coming shortage in advanced materials in any way affect the moon distribution and output?

Underpaid Overworked
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:34:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Underpaid Overworked on 10/12/2008 21:34:52


Copy and Paste from the German EvEO by CCP Fallout, wow that was a difficult and well thought out statement that required time to prepare...

Datsun Achura
Perkone
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:34:00 - [9]
 

Is it true this exploit has existed for four years?

Valan
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:34:00 - [10]
 

So is it true it was reported to CCP?

Was it a genuine mistake and CCP did nothing?

Are we loooking at another GM/IRC buddy thing?

Jack's Rabbit
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:34:00 - [11]
 

We need to know if it's true CCP has known about this exploit for 4 years.

Euriti
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:35:00 - [12]
 

How is this affecting the economy? How much of the ferrogel supply was comming from this exploit?

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:35:00 - [13]
 

Impressive, I guess a list of the offenders is out of the question as always though :(

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:36:00 - [14]
 

I guess all those employees added to the cake-baking finally paid off!


LikYum
Amarr
Health and Beauty Spa
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:36:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We have discovered an exploit involving starbases that made it possible for some players to gain an unfair advantage over others. We have taken measures to address this by removing the starbases used in the exploit. Additionally, assets gained from its use have been seized and bans levied against the players involved. We will continue to monitor the game for issues such as this one. We encourage players to create a petition if become aware of any activities which may permit others to gain an unfair advantage in the game.

Update by Customer Support:

On December 7th 2008, a date which will live in infamy, a petition from a concerned player alerted us to a serious problem with Starbase reactors. The petition had been filed five days earlier, a far longer waiting time than we can accept with our current queue status and we have now taken measures to fix that. We immediately started investigating the issue and found that there was indeed a problem and that it was being exploited to gain unfair advantages.

We discovered seven corporations with multiple Starbases set up for the express purpose of exploiting the issue. Three of those corporations were members of two alliances. We took immediate action against the offenders and banned over 70 accounts and destroyed all the Starbases run by the corporations in question. All the offending corporations are now effectively inactive as a result of our actions.

The corporations were producing high end materials for T2 production. Working with the Research & Statistics team we have established that the effects on the markets have been considerable and far reaching. The effects of our actions against the exploiters will also be felt on the market as the production of the materials has been cut substantially. However, supply should increase again once players have mastered the alchemy process.

We are still conducting operations to deal with this matter and we will keep you posted on the progress and results as things develop.

Update: This matter will be brought up at a CSM and CCP meeting this upcoming weekend.

1, Is it true that it was reported 4 years ago?
2, Did the person it was reported to, or who picked up the petition pass it on or keep it for themself and misuse game mechanics for 4 years?
3, Did they pass it on to anyone (individual/corp/alliance) else who has profited by it for the last 4 years?
Oh and on 1st page in what will no doubt be an epic epic thread Cool

Kerdrak
GreenSwarm
Black Legion.
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:36:00 - [16]
 

ugh

Arcon Telf
Gallente
N0 APOLOGY
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:36:00 - [17]
 

Wow. Just ... wow.

Kazaux Aux
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:37:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Kazaux Aux on 10/12/2008 21:39:06
So how much will my T2 stuff go up in price?

First page ftw :D

Underpaid Overworked
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:37:00 - [19]
 


Paging Internal Affairs for a real statement.


keepiru
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:38:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Jack's Rabbit
We need to know if it's true CCP has known about this exploit for 4 years.

I would say "I doubt we'll ever find out", but depending on the effects on the economy, we might, in fact, find out the extent of this.

Afale II
Space Pony Farm
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:38:00 - [21]
 

Laughing

Xthril Ranger
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:38:00 - [22]
 

What I want / need to know is how many reaction chains where run in this way and how many people was banned.

Amber Coldheart
Caldari
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:38:00 - [23]
 

Cant wait to hear CCP's explanation of this one :)

Straight Chillen
Gallente
Solar Wind
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:38:00 - [24]
 

I heard about this once quite a while ago. And i wrote if off to the drunken ramblings of a southern man. God damn i coullda been richConfused

Weirda
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:39:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Weirda on 10/12/2008 21:40:42
Is this address in current (delay) patch?

Dr Nefarius
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:40:00 - [26]
 

Hopefully the use has been widespread, so my purchase of t2 modules pays off Razz

But seriously, all involved must get the ban for this.

Valan
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:40:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Straight Chillen
I heard about this once quite a while ago. And i wrote if off to the drunken ramblings of a southern man. God damn i coullda been banned unless I knew a GM or CCP dudeConfused


Fixed it

Gane Green
Gallente
Dominus Imperium
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:40:00 - [28]
 

Wow Shocked

Estel Arador
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:41:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We have discovered an exploit involving starbases that made it possible for some players to gain an unfair advantage over others.

Isn't that true for any exploit? Wink

royal killer
Amarr
Shadows Of The Federation
Posted - 2008.12.10 21:41:00 - [30]
 

Everyone got greedy, and when they found out about this exploit, nobody said anythingLaughing

But, 4 whole years....that's like 1460 days and nobody said anything! absurd. (didn't know about this btw.)


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