Posted - 2008.12.28 15:41:00 - [151]

 

From what i've heard from CCP programming so far, they must have used the names itself as primary key to reference in the database.

So NO, cant be changed

Posted - 2008.12.28 19:02:00 - [153]

 

Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 28/12/2008 19:09:51
Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 28/12/2008 19:06:17

Originally by: Technomagez

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It's the most stupid thing I've ever seen. Real, even modern medicine can't "really" change your gender... and you'll never be able to change your race.... you can't just change a race... through no means...
And in the Eve of world your "Phantastic Racechange" also comes with a free brainwash, so that the races don't fight themselves afterwards, eh? Well, racechange is just... NOT POSSIBLE.

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Modern medicine can't change your sex, as in all sex charasteristics like chromosomes, but all we have in the game is gender. For all practical purposes, that the game allows, we should be able to do the necessary changes.

Changing your race sounds a bit foolish. I would like to keep the flavour between races and bloodlines if possible and some of the consequenses. Race/Ancestry also has real fuction in the game, like determining your stats, so I'm against changing them.

Edit: typos. I coudn't type properly even if my life depended on it

Posted - 2008.12.28 20:32:00 - [155]

 

Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia

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So what you guys want is a chance to take all your skillpoints and history of a character but move it into another body and maybe change the name too?

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I'd say choosing a new body (but keeping the same race, same gender, same bloodline, same name) and keeping all else makes most sense to me. This should also only be a one time deal with a limited end date.

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Would it be acceptable if you could only do this once after WiS is released?

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I think it would only make sense then, since you'd be able to see the end result, so it would be an informed choice.

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..., for a fee even?

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I think a fee should definitely be put in place: if it takes up CCP time and it only benefits the character wanting the change, those costs should be relayed to that player and not to other EVE players.

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We never wanted to go down this road because it´s immersion breaking, people can hide their history (usually a bad history) and it´s a huge hassle for us because it probably has to be done manually for each avatar.

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Well, you'll sort of make a huge paradigm shift by introducing WiS: before, your avatar was hardly relevant because the most you yourself and other people experience of you is the space ship you're flying. To a certain point, the perception could be that you _are_ a spaceship. People respond to what ship you fly, not to what your avatar looks like.

With WiS, you introduce a whole new element to the game: your avatar and its looks actually start to matter a great deal, because they influence other characters behavior in this new environment. Since players from before WiS never had the ability to make an informed choice about this, you should give them an option to make some choices anew.

However, changing gender, name and/or bloodline seems more like regretting a stupid choice and using this change to try persuade you to allow them to rewrite history. And I agree that changes to that extent would indeed break immersion.

Just my 2 cents ...

Posted - 2008.12.29 01:15:00 - [157]

 

Originally by: Steve Celeste

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From what i've heard from CCP programming so far, they must have used the names itself as primary key to reference in the database.

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They can keep that name, let's call it *original name*, as primary key. Just add a display name and link it to the previous one so people don't get away scamming or something.

Posted - 2008.12.29 04:13:00 - [159]

 

I chose to play a male character because it is my right to choose, if i want to choose to play female character it is my right to do so. Anyone who discriminate or harrass someone for playing what they want is sexist and go to hell

Posted - 2008.12.29 05:19:00 - [161]

 

Originally by: Technomagez

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It's the most stupid thing I've ever seen. Real, even modern medicine can't "really" change your gender... and you'll never be able to change your race.... you can't just change a race... through no means...
And in the Eve of world your "Phantastic Racechange" also comes with a free brainwash, so that the races don't fight themselves afterwards, eh? Well, racechange is just... NOT POSSIBLE.

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now roll with me here on this one. While I might or not agree with you take this into consideration.

What about EvE science is "modern"

Posted - 2008.12.29 11:33:00 - [163]

 

Originally by: Zyrt

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Originally by: Steve Celeste

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From what i've heard from CCP programming so far, they must have used the names itself as primary key to reference in the database.

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They can keep that name, let's call it *original name*, as primary key. Just add a display name and link it to the previous one so people don't get away scamming or something.

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No sane DB developer would have used the name as the primary key.

Posted - 2008.12.29 14:49:00 - [165]

 

Maybe with the "make your body and remake your face" tools provided with the introduction of WiS the posibility to create a sexually ambiguous character will be present regardless of the base gender.

Personally i say, no change to gender or racial type, this is eve, you make a choice and it stays with your forever or until you biomass and its all over.

Posted - 2008.12.29 16:30:00 - [167]

 

Originally by: Destination SkillQueue

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Originally by: dojocan81

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ccp, do not allow people to change the gender ... those people should live with it

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Why limit it? I can understand if it causes huge problems to implement, but otherwise it should be something you can change. It is not a top priority feature, but it would be a nice thing to have. It wont hide your history in EVE, it can be done with todays technology IRL, it won't limit other players or give you an advantage over them, so why not? It is a major body modification and should be expensive, but still something a demigod, with near endless funds and who creates his own morality should be able to do.

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because, if they add this "feature" into eve if WIS hits TQ, everyone and his mom will run with omgsexylatex clothes and huge boobs around ... thats why those people want a gender change ...

Posted - 2008.12.30 03:15:00 - [169]

 

Being able to make changes like this are against everything that EVE stands for, as an immersive roleplay game. I am incredibly dissapointed that CCP Eris is even considering the OPs suggestion for a tenth of a nanosecond. Hopefully she's really just politely giving the idea the brush-off in a "don't call us, we'll call you" kind of way.

The system that we have now for it is fine. You can change gender easily in EVE by starting a new character. If you don't mind ditching your old character's skillpoints, you can even keep your name. How cool is that?

Posted - 2008.12.30 05:09:00 - [171]

 

Edited by: noc D on 30/12/2008 05:09:41


+ loving to see who want to change sex

Posted - 2008.12.30 06:53:00 - [173]

 

Originally by: Saladin

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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia

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So what you guys want is a chance to take all your skillpoints and history of a character but move it into another body and maybe change the name too?

Would it be acceptable if you could only do this once after WiS is released, for a fee even?

We never wanted to go down this road because it´s immersion breaking, people can hide their history (usually a bad history) and it´s a huge hassle for us because it probably has to be done manually for each avatar.

On the other hand it seems to be the number 1 request of people desperately wanting to change sexes when WiS hits so it´s something at least I´ll keep in mind.

Can´t promise anything though so don´t get your hopes up.

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Its unfortunate that CCP might accomodate this. If you guys do this, make sure its not the $10.00 portrait change fee. A change like this should bite, and bite hard. Minimum $75-100.

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100 euros or dollars? i could get a REAL sex change for 100 euros in some countries.

Posted - 2008.12.30 09:12:00 - [175]

 

Originally by: Meiyang Lee

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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 25/11/2008 14:22:23

Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia

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So what you guys want is a chance to take all your skillpoints and history of a character but move it into another body and maybe change the name too?

Would it be acceptable if you could only do this once after WiS is released, for a fee even?

We never wanted to go down this road because it´s immersion breaking, people can hide their history (usually a bad history) and it´s a huge hassle for us because it probably has to be done manually for each avatar.

On the other hand it seems to be the number 1 request of people desperately wanting to change sexes when WiS hits so it´s something at least I´ll keep in mind.

Can´t promise anything though so don´t get your hopes up.

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Obviously I can't speak for everyone here, but I'll enjoy recreating my female character (being male myself) and will accept her treatment as a result.
My corpies know who and what I am, which atleast to me, is the most important.
All my Avatar is, is a way of interacting with the game, she happens to be female. No big deal in my opinion. If I end up getting chatted up by a lot by hopeful blokes looking to score then they're in for a shock. That's basically just PvP in another form.

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rofl

Posted - 2008.12.30 09:45:00 - [177]

 

Originally by: Armoured C

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your caldari , beautiful and caldari never mix i mean look at the raven :P

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Umm wat about the domi, sorry but raven over domi (in looks) in pvp I gotta go wit the domi.

Posted - 2008.12.30 15:43:00 - [179]

 

Hell, after 2.5 years playing this game, I've gotten a bit used to this ugly mug, but it will be interesting to see how much of a crackhead i can turn him in to when he has legs