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osimandius
Posted - 2008.11.12 04:51:00 - [1]
 

i can understand the nerf for missiles against smaller ships however the way the nerf has affected missiles against larger targets is absurd.damage has dropped by over 50% against battleships now i wonder if all gun platforms were nerfed by 50% damage how happy would people be?

missile boats are now pointless

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2008.11.12 04:52:00 - [2]
 

It's true. Please contract me all your missile boats and I will dispose of them Laughing

Inquisitor Ares
The Ministry of Death
Posted - 2008.11.12 04:53:00 - [3]
 

I'm raging, I'M RAGING!



RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Number 86
Perkone
Posted - 2008.11.12 04:53:00 - [4]
 

your stuff, this way

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.11.12 04:55:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: osimandius
i can understand the nerf for missiles against smaller ships however the way the nerf has affected missiles against larger targets is absurd.damage has dropped by over 50% against battleships now i wonder if all gun platforms were nerfed by 50% damage how happy would people be?



How about 400% tracking nerf guns got while in webrange?

And yeah, people are not exactly happy.

Khamal Jolstien
Caldari
THORN Syndicate
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2008.11.12 04:58:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: osimandius
i can understand the nerf for missiles against smaller ships however the way the nerf has affected missiles against larger targets is absurd.damage has dropped by over 50% against battleships now i wonder if all gun platforms were nerfed by 50% damage how happy would people be?

missile boats are now pointless



You're not the only one ****ed. Blasters got nerfed hard as well as someone else said. Not to mention the fact that if we want something resembling our old, lackluster dps we need to fit a target painter. So glad we have spare mid--.. oh wait. That's our tank

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.11.12 04:59:00 - [7]
 

Make friends with a Hyena pilot.

Tarin Adur
Gallente
Crimson Empire.
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:01:00 - [8]
 

Not half as pointless as all these threads....

Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Dead poets society
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:02:00 - [9]
 

HUZZAH! Tis the long awaited boost of the awesome support ship the Bellicose!

Bellum Eternus
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:02:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: osimandius
i can understand the nerf for missiles against smaller ships however the way the nerf has affected missiles against larger targets is absurd.damage has dropped by over 50% against battleships now i wonder if all gun platforms were nerfed by 50% damage how happy would people be?

missile boats are now pointless



Blasters were nerfed by 100%. Rolling Eyes

Khamal Jolstien
Caldari
THORN Syndicate
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:02:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: tarin adur
Not half as pointless as all these threads....

These threads actually do have a point, and are constructive. It lets CCP know, publicly that someone is very unhappy with their product.

Plus, Zulupark said they look at forums for feedback first.

Lone Hitman
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:02:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Cpt Branko

How about 400% tracking nerf guns got while in webrange?


Yes, I feel bad for people who have been affected by that too.

Fragito
Dragon's Rage
Ethereal Dawn
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:08:00 - [13]
 

Oh please do hush it with the complaining about missiles getting nerfed; they needed it, seriously. The only ones complaining are Caldari because their easy killing has ended; yes it may now require some skill for Caldari in this game to kill other players now. And yes, Blasters also took a spanking in this expansion, which is what I rely on; oh well, I'll deal with it.

Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Dead poets society
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:11:00 - [14]
 

Hopefully thins means i wont have to look at as many Achura faces in ambulation, which imo is more of a blessing than i think everyone realises.

Pr1ncess Alia
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:13:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: tarin adur
Not half as pointless as all these threads....

These threads actually do have a point, and are constructive. It lets CCP know, publicly that someone is very unhappy with their product.

Plus, Zulupark said they look at forums for feedback first.


THIS

what is more pointless, a post complaining about changes or a post complaining about complaining?

Question

AkRoYeR
Amarr
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:14:00 - [16]
 

Lame, if your going to make nerfs to missiles and speed please make it fair across the board and nerf your rats and missions rats please. kthxbye.

Tarin Adur
Gallente
Crimson Empire.
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:15:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: tarin adur
Not half as pointless as all these threads....

These threads actually do have a point, and are constructive. It lets CCP know, publicly that someone is very unhappy with their product.

Plus, Zulupark said they look at forums for feedback first.


THIS

what is more pointless, a post complaining about changes or a post complaining about complaining?

Question


A post complaining about a post complaining about complaining

Berious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:16:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: tarin adur
Not half as pointless as all these threads....

These threads actually do have a point, and are constructive. It lets CCP know, publicly that someone is very unhappy with their product.

Plus, Zulupark said they look at forums for feedback first.


THIS

what is more pointless, a post complaining about changes or a post complaining about complaining?

Question


Haven't you Caldari folks done enough damage already with your whining?

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:17:00 - [19]
 

Welcome to the world of the Amarr long ago... this should only last about 2 years Laughing

Szent AdamKiraly
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:17:00 - [20]
 

WE DIDN'T LISTEN, WE DIDN'T LISTEN.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:18:00 - [21]
 

Dunno what your talking about, I finsihed off 4 battleships on a single reload in my drake. The higher end lvl 4 battleships took only 1 reload from my drake.

osimandius
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:19:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: osimandius on 12/11/2008 05:21:17
probably the most frustrating thing is that when ure faced with a slower bs in a mission or many bs as the case may be to drop the damage by like 60% is a bit overboard in my opinion and as it happens im primarily a gunner rather than missiles and i fly galente and caldari equally so the effect on me is limited... however if i feel something is wrong then i think i should be able to voice my opinion :)

and outta curiousity nova how many cruise or torp launchers do u have on your drake?

Greig Tarkunderson
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:28:00 - [23]
 

The people who are really going to get hurt by this are solo pilots who don't have support ships. The solo battleship has taken a huge hit in usefulness. Small/large gang pvp is actually going to be more interesting as people will have to put some thought into setting up a support fleet. Having the winning balance of dps/ewar/support/webbing/painting/etc will be a greater deciding factor than the number of battleships you can spam the field with. We might even see a use for small and midsize ships (other than just the falcon :p) in large scale battles again. Difficulty is up across the board, so there's not much point complaining, but things will be more interesting!

Shadow's Caress
Lone Sword Production
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:29:00 - [24]
 

zomg, target painters are useful again! oh noez!

osimandius
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:32:00 - [25]
 

the whole thing seems to be benficial to me as i primarily fly AF`s however form a game perspective i think this patches nerfs are a big negative and will be detrimental to the game its like removing lasers as a viable weopen etc

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:32:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Shadow's Caress
zomg, target painters are useful again! oh noez!


But not cheap... now.

Just like to shout out a big ole thankyou to whoever left 47 on the market in Lonetrek @ 500k btw. You just paid for my new Viator.

Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:34:00 - [27]
 

HAHAHAHAHAH! Screw you, stupid Caldari! You are all so totally sc... hey... wait a second...!!

Greig Tarkunderson
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:36:00 - [28]
 

It makes sense to have missiles easily speed-tanked. They are equally effective anywhere in optimal, and have a fairly large optimal range (about equal to must guns + falloff). Guns generally have a very small range of distance where they're effective (too close and tracking fails, too far and you're losing most of the dps to falloff). So you have the choice of very effective only at a single range or half-decent anywhere within maximum range. The reason for choosing one weapon system over another is that it's DIFFERENT rather than BETTER now, which I think is what CCP is going for here.

Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:37:00 - [29]
 

Carebears whine about nano.

Nano is nerfed.

Pro-Nano groups whine about money making via lvl-4 missions.

Carebears get nerfed.

***

It's a cruel world. Tit-4-tat. =)

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2008.11.12 05:42:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Shadow's Caress
zomg, target painters are useful again! oh noez!


Wait, target painters were useful at one point?


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