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Another Forum'Alt Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.11.09 15:16:00 - [1] With the nerf they will get their bonus increased to 10% per level, giving 50%. Webs are going to be nerfed to 60%, so the bonused web will be 90%, which isn't enough to hit frigs with large weapons. The web bonus needs to be 13% per level (65% total).
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2008.11.09 15:18:00 - [2] No chance. They are right, we are wrong.
Zo5o The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.09 16:13:00 - [3] Edited by: Zo5o on 09/11/2008 16:17:15 Yeah the web bonus is going to become worthless for PVE, and these are designed as primarily PVE ships. A tracking comp/sensor booster will become a much more useful use of a midslot than a web for PVE in the ships, rendering the web bonus unused.
Daitanfutekina Unsoya	Posted - 2008.11.09 16:27:00 - [4] hey hey, that'll be enough for torpedos to hit something! oh shi--- the two ships you mentioned dont use torpedos! doh!
Zo5o The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.09 18:11:00 - [5] These are PVE ships first and foremost. If a 99% web is deemed overpowered for PVP, then the web bonus needs to be replaced by something useful for PVE, because a 90% web in PVE is going to be useless as it doesn't allow large guns to hit frigs.
Bellum Eternus Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.09 18:23:00 - [6] Originally by: Zo5o These are PVE ships first and foremost. If a 99% web is deemed overpowered for PVP, then the web bonus needs to be replaced by something useful for PVE, because a 90% web in PVE is going to be useless as it doesn't allow large guns to hit frigs. Just... stop talking. The web bonus is the only thing the Kronos has going for it. Remove that, and I might as well just reprocess mine.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.11.09 19:29:00 - [7] Originally by: Another Forum'Alt With the nerf they will get their bonus increased to 10% per level, giving 50%. Webs are going to be nerfed to 60%, so the bonused web will be 90%, which isn't enough to hit frigs with large weapons. The web bonus needs to be 13% per level (65% total). You got drones don't you?
Ezekiel Sulastin Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.09 19:36:00 - [8] I wish my current Dominix setup for missions would have a 90% web post patch -.-
1Evildude Gallente Gallente Space Production	Posted - 2008.11.09 19:56:00 - [9] Fit two webs?
Doctor Mahbuse	Posted - 2008.11.09 20:11:00 - [10] Why will the bonus be increased ? This is not fair. The Golem's bonus will be nerfed by 50%, Kronos bonus should get halved aswell. Explosion radius was nerfed, together with that Golem explosion radius bonus got reduced. Webifier was nerfed, together with that the Kronos webifier bonus should be NERFED AND NOT BUFFED !!!! AAARRGFGGSS CCP IS GIVING SPECIAL TREATMENT TO GALLENTE AGAIN !!!
Another Forum'Alt Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.11.09 20:48:00 - [11] Originally by: 1Evildude Fit two webs? 1. stacking penalty 2. still not 99% 3. not enough midslots
Bellum Eternus Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.09 21:13:00 - [12] Originally by: Doctor Mahbuse Why will the bonus be increased ? This is not fair. The Golem's bonus will be nerfed by 50%, Kronos bonus should get halved aswell. Explosion radius was nerfed, together with that Golem explosion radius bonus got reduced. Webifier was nerfed, together with that the Kronos webifier bonus should be NERFED AND NOT BUFFED !!!! AAARRGFGGSS CCP IS GIVING SPECIAL TREATMENT TO GALLENTE AGAIN !!! The Kronos' web bonus was reduced by 90%. So it was nerfed far more than the Golem. F#cking Caldari whiners.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2008.11.09 21:39:00 - [13] Edited by: Mag''s on 09/11/2008 21:40:25 Originally by: Doctor Mahbuse Why will the bonus be increased ? This is not fair. The Golem's bonus will be nerfed by 50%, Kronos bonus should get halved aswell. Explosion radius was nerfed, together with that Golem explosion radius bonus got reduced. Webifier was nerfed, together with that the Kronos webifier bonus should be NERFED AND NOT BUFFED !!!! AAARRGFGGSS CCP IS GIVING SPECIAL TREATMENT TO GALLENTE AGAIN !!! It was due to clueless whiners like yourself, that we now have a massive game wide nerf. Pre QR the web bonus for the Paladin and Kronos made webs 99%, post QR it sits at 90%, so yes, it was boosted. You lot wanted a nano nerf, well you got one, but it came with consequences.... suck it up.
Koyama Ise Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.09 21:55:00 - [14] Originally by: Mag's You lot wanted a nano nerf, well you got one, but it came with consequences.... suck it up. But I never asked for it. I vote to have a seperate server/shard without the nano nerf.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.11.09 21:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Another Forum'Alt Originally by: 1Evildude Fit two webs? 1. stacking penalty 2. still not 99% 3. not enough midslots CCP already stated 99% was too much anway.
Another Forum'Alt Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.11.09 22:06:00 - [16] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Another Forum'Alt Originally by: 1Evildude Fit two webs? 1. stacking penalty 2. still not 99% 3. not enough midslots CCP already stated 99% was too much anway. Where?
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.11.09 22:11:00 - [17] Originally by: Another Forum'Alt Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Another Forum'Alt Originally by: 1Evildude Fit two webs? 1. stacking penalty 2. still not 99% 3. not enough midslots CCP already stated 99% was too much anway. Where? I don't remember. Someone else might though. Might have been the live blog.
Cpt Branko Retired Pirate Club	Posted - 2008.11.09 23:21:00 - [18] It's designed to be flown with Falcon alt(s) which it will so
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2008.11.09 23:28:00 - [19] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Another Forum'Alt Originally by: Lyria Skydancer CCP already stated 99% was too much anway. Where? I don't remember. Someone else might though. Might have been the live blog. Just another fact you've pulled out your arse. Nice.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.11.09 23:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Mag's Just another fact you've pulled out your arse. Nice. Does it matter even matter? I do remember them saying something about the 99% being over the top. I don't care that your sorry ass goes emo all over the place for slightest change that you can't cope with.
Msgerbs Gallente Imperial Assualt Guild	Posted - 2008.11.10 00:18:00 - [21] Originally by: Doctor Mahbuse AAARRGFGGSS CCP IS GIVING SPECIAL TREATMENT TO GALLENTE AGAIN !!! QFT GTFO. Anyone who says a patch that nerfs speed AND nerfs medium drones has no idea what they're talking about.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2008.11.10 00:20:00 - [22] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Mag's Just another fact you've pulled out your arse. Nice. Does it matter even matter? I do remember them saying something about the 99% being over the top. I don't care that your sorry ass goes emo all over the place for slightest change that you can't cope with. Does it matter even matter? lol Nice emo reply though. Don't get all upset because your lies get caught out. Tissue?
Fenren Minmatar Bure Astro Photography	Posted - 2008.11.10 00:57:00 - [23] WOHO!!!! it is a boost to minmatar marauders! they are the only ones not nerfed, and they deserve this special treatment. but i am worried about that little thing about guns not hitting outside their optimal and falloff range. does that mean optimal+falloff+1 metre= 0% chance to hit or optimal+2xfalloff+1metre= 0% chance to hit or what does it mean?
Hoshi Hedron Industries Red Dwarf Racketeering Division	Posted - 2008.11.10 01:39:00 - [24] Edited by: Hoshi on 10/11/2008 01:44:09 Originally by: Mag's Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Another Forum'Alt Originally by: Lyria Skydancer CCP already stated 99% was too much anway. Where? I don't remember. Someone else might though. Might have been the live blog. Just another fact you've pulled out your arse. Nice. No he is right they did say that, I can start digging if it really matters that much to you. Edit: Found it. http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=907182&page=1#6 Originally by: CCP Nozh Giving them the 99% bonus in the first place is CCP's fault: They fitted in at the time. Post-changes, having a ship class that reduces the speed to 1%, while other ships can "only" reduce it to 40%, would be completely ridiculous.
Shard Merchant Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.10 01:45:00 - [25] Nice troll man. 9.2/10.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.11.10 02:37:00 - [26] Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 10/11/2008 02:39:28 Originally by: Mag's Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Mag's Just another fact you've pulled out your arse. Nice. Does it matter even matter? I do remember them saying something about the 99% being over the top. I don't care that your sorry ass goes emo all over the place for slightest change that you can't cope with. Does it matter even matter? lol Nice emo reply though. Don't get all upset because your lies get caught out. Tissue? My lies got caught? Originally by: Hoshi No he is right they did say that, I can start digging if it really matters that much to you. Edit: Found it. http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=907182&page=1#6 Originally by: CCP Nozh Giving them the 99% bonus in the first place is CCP's fault: They fitted in at the time. Post-changes, having a ship class that reduces the speed to 1%, while other ships can "only" reduce it to 40%, would be completely ridiculous. Here is your tissue emo boy. Let it be a lesson to not play with the forum warfare level 5 guys before you get more experience. ps. thanks hoshi for digging it up. I couldnt be arsed for do that for the jackass above.
Dianeces Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.10 03:39:00 - [27] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Let it be a lesson to not play with the forum warfare level 5 guys before you get more experience. Surely you've gotten that to six by now?
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.11.10 03:46:00 - [28] Originally by: Dianeces Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Let it be a lesson to not play with the forum warfare level 5 guys before you get more experience. Surely you've gotten that to six by now? Almost my friend, almost.
Horza Otho Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.11.10 05:26:00 - [29] Originally by: Mag's Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Another Forum'Alt Originally by: Lyria Skydancer CCP already stated 99% was too much anway. Where? I don't remember. Someone else might though. Might have been the live blog. Just another fact you've pulled out your arse. Nice. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Mag's, your a moron.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2008.11.10 09:52:00 - [30] Lets recap Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Another Forum'Alt Originally by: 1Evildude Fit two webs? 2. still not 99% CCP already stated 99% was too much anway. Was too much, past tense. Originally by: CCP Nozh Giving them the 99% bonus in the first place is CCP's fault: They fitted in at the time. Post-changes, having a ship class that reduces the speed to 1%, while other ships can "only" reduce it to 40%, would be completely ridiculous. Post changes, meaning will be too much. Forum level what now?

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